Synergy Play Type Stats

slinslin

Welcome to Amareca
Joined
Jun 28, 2002
Posts
16,855
Reaction score
562
Location
Hannover - Germany
are now part of nba.com

Some interesting stuff for example

http://stats.nba.com/playtype/#!/post-up/?OD=offensive&dir=1&PT=player&sort=TeamName
pick and roll, offensive ball handlers Points per Possession || turnover frequency
1. Eric Bledsoe 0.89ppp | 21.1%t.fr
2. Gerald Green 0.85 | 14.7%t.fr
3. Isaiah Thomas 0.84 | 16%t.fr
4. Marcus Morris 0.83 | 3.3%t.fr
5. Goran Dragic 0.75 | 22.5%f.fr
6. PJ Tucker 0.33 | 25%t.fr

Bledsoe is by far our most effective isolation player and most productive when handling the ball.

Tucker is so bad, it is a disaster whenever he is making plays as the ball handler.

I'd guess thar Marcus Morris and Gerald Green have such low turnover rates because they don't drive all the way to the basket. Marcus Morris has a 0% rate of creating freethrows from those plays. Gerald Green however gets almost as high a free throw rate as Bledsoe.
IT actually turns the ball over less, gets more freethrows per play than Bledsoe but overall still less points per posession simply because Bledsoe has by far better eFG% than the other guys 50.8%eFG, the rest is between 40-45% only.

Isolation plays
Tucker 1.05 ppp
Markieff 1.02ppp
Marcus 0.97ppp
Green 0.97ppp
Thomas 0.90ppp
Plumlee 0.82ppp
Bledsoe 0.72ppp
Dragic 0.69ppp

What is pretty interesting that Dragic for example fares by far the best in spot up situations, he is in the top 10% in the NBA in spot up situations while his other play ranking are mediocre.
He also ranks in the top 2% as a cutter.

Contrary to what is being said on message boards this seems to indicate that Dragic is more efficient off the ball.

Ranking very high in spot up and cutter efficieny, mediocre as a PNR ballhandler, and poorly in isolation or coming off screens.
 
Last edited:

Covert Rain

Father smelt of elderberries!
Supporting Member
Joined
Jan 27, 2005
Posts
36,784
Reaction score
15,892
Location
Arizona
He is playing more at the 2 than in the past, I would expect his off ball numbers to be better. What about when he was playing well at the PG before coming to the Suns. I would be curious to compare his number when playing his natural position full time before the Suns and playing SG now.
 
OP
OP
slinslin

slinslin

Welcome to Amareca
Joined
Jun 28, 2002
Posts
16,855
Reaction score
562
Location
Hannover - Germany
How does that matter, the type of play is the same regardless of whether you label him PG, guard, shooting guard, wing or whatever.

What I find more shocking is how well Tucker has done in isolation situations, must be due to the small sample size (22 isolation plays) and being lucky.
 

Covert Rain

Father smelt of elderberries!
Supporting Member
Joined
Jan 27, 2005
Posts
36,784
Reaction score
15,892
Location
Arizona
How does that matter, the type of play is the same regardless of whether you label him PG, guard, shooting guard, wing or whatever.

What I find more shocking is how well Tucker has done in isolation situations, must be due to the small sample size (22 isolation plays) and being lucky.

It matters because you said this

"Contrary to what is being said on message boards this seems to indicate that Dragic is more efficient off the ball."

That is a statement being made in a vacuum. Most people on this board have said that Dragic would be more effective in a traditional lineup. If he is being played primarily out of position and only part time in the other, I would expect his numbers to better in his primary role on the team.

However, what that doesn't indicate is was he a more effective player when his primary role was playing PG with a real SG. To me that is the most important aspect of doing any analysis with Goran.

I have not had a chance to review the numbers but as I said I am curious.
 

Suns_fan69

Official ASFN Lurker
Joined
Oct 2, 2002
Posts
3,667
Reaction score
2,065
Location
Vancouver, BC, Canada
How does that matter, the type of play is the same regardless of whether you label him PG, guard, shooting guard, wing or whatever.

What I find more shocking is how well Tucker has done in isolation situations, must be due to the small sample size (22 isolation plays) and being lucky.

From what I can remember, Tucker only gets isolation when he has a clear size mismatch, so it's not super surprising he's doing well there.
 

Latest posts

Forum statistics

Threads
556,146
Posts
5,433,869
Members
6,329
Latest member
cardinals2025
Top