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This is what Pro Football Talk wrote about Ted Ginn this morning:

Among our favorite kinds of football players, right up there with the ones who overcome long odds or do inspirational things, we have a soft spot for those with a little self-awareness.

So it was a great relief to hear one of them admit that yes, in fact, it was about the money.

According to Bill Voth of Black and Blue Review, Panthers wideout Ted Ginn admitting that leaving for Arizona last year was about nothing more than “going out and chasing a check.”

Ginn appeared to have hit free agency at the right time, after catching five touchdown passes (one short of what he had done the six previous years) for the Panthers in 2013 while working on a one-year deal. So when the Cardinals gave him a three-year, $9.75 million contract, he had to go.

“You only have a short window in this league, so you just gotta go and do what’s good for your family,” Ginn said. “At the end of the day, I don’t think going out there was best for my family. I think being here was the best thing for me. It’s only a short window to go out and get what you can get, so I just praise God that they had their hands open for me to be able to return. Now that I’m here I have to put all that I can do in, and show what I have on and off the field to be a Panther.”

When the Cardinals got tired of him after a year (he caught 14 balls and made minimal impact, other than a playoff fumble), the Panthers were happy to bring him back. For whatever reason, he looks like an NFL wide receiver when he’s with them, as he’s made numerous deep play connections with Cam Newton already in camp.

So while he doesn’t regret trying to capitalize on his good season, he’s also aware that the Panthers seem to work for him.

“No, not at all,” he said. “Like I said, you gotta do what you do for your family. The best thing about the whole situation is coming back somewhere where somebody likes you.”

And with the way Ginn’s career has gone, finding that place has been tough, so he’s hanging on now.

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Commentary:

There are few things to fault BA&SK for---but Ginn heads the list. It is not so much for signing him---if you watched Ginn in Carolina the year before (in a contract year), he was good, not only as a return man but as a #3-#4 WR.

But---when you watched him play for the Cardinals, it was very clear his heart wasn't into it---which was so odd considering how well the Cardinals were doing---even when the team was 10-1, atop the NFL, Ginn was looking like he wanted no part of returning kicks.

Where BA can be faulted? It was sticking with Ginn.

By Week 12 many of us had had it with Ginn---it was plain to see that he was awful. His effort was pitiful. Nada. Nil. Zero.

Late in the year the team did bring up Brittan Golden, so he was an option as return man. For the big games late in the year and in the playoff game they could have used Patrick Peterson as the punt returner...but sticking with Ginn cost the team immensely when with 5:23 left in the 3rd quarter with the Cardinals only down 20-14, Ginn decides to return a kickoff from the back line of the end zone and winds up fumbling on the 10 yard line---and---it was a gift fumble---as Ginn did nothing to protect the ball, the absolute no-no in that situation.

The way Cam Newton was struggling---if the Cardinals had been able to keep that game close, who knows what could have happened.

Ted Ginn gift wraps the fumble to his old team---the Cardinals release him this off-season---he re-signs with his old team---and now he says he signed with the Cardinals just to chase a paycheck?

Pitiful.

Credit BA&SK, however, for getting rid of him and separating the contenders from the pretenders.
 
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I don't think the writer had it in mind for this article, but I don't know how anyone can read this as anything but an indictment of Ted Ginn Jr.
 
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I don't think the writer had it in mind for this article, but I don't know how anyone can read this as anything but an indictment of Ted Ginn Jr.

Excellent point. It's not only an indictment on Ginn, but it adds further credence to the whole "contract year" fake-out that some NFL players stage in order to get the money deal.
 

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I was excited when the Cards signed him. He had the one huge return vs. the Giants but seemed to be a bit brain dead at times.

I can't blame a guy for "chasing a paycheck" in this league. Players are cut half way through the "contract" they signed. However, once a player signs that contract he owes it to the team, teammates and fans to give a 100% effort.

Sadly, that didn't happen.
 

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Ginn played like a chump who was only here to collect a check. Good riddance...
 

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I couldn't believe how bad he was. Freakin hot garbage. I thought he was a perfect fit to change up what we had with Fitz n Floyd.

I was wayyyyy wrong.
 

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I just can't believe BA stuck with him so long. When Ginn fumbled that ball, it seemed to me like he had an agenda because for one, he was in the back of the end zone, and he held the ball like he was wanting someone to knock it out. This story only adds to it.
 

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“You only have a short window in this league, so you just gotta go and do what’s good for your family,” Ginn said. “At the end of the day, I don’t think going out there was best for my family. I think being here was the best thing for me. It’s only a short window to go out and get what you can get, so I just praise God that they had their hands open for me to be able to return. Now that I’m here I have to put all that I can do in, and show what I have on and off the field to be a Panther.”

Oh, now he's able to do that? LOL.
 
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I just can't believe BA stuck with him so long. When Ginn fumbled that ball, it seemed to me like he had an agenda because for one, he was in the back of the end zone, and he held the ball like he was wanting someone to knock it out. This story only adds to it.

I so agree with this---what made running it our from the back of the end zone unforgivable was that he did the same thing the kickoff previously which pinned the offense in a hole which wound up giving the Panthers the ball on a short field which they turned into the TD that made it 20-14.
 

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I couldn't believe how bad he was. Freakin hot garbage. I thought he was a perfect fit to change up what we had with Fitz n Floyd.

I was wayyyyy wrong.

I wasn't necessarily expecting the Panthers version of Ginn, but, heck, the Niners and Dolphins version of Ginn didn't even show up.
 

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I wasn't necessarily expecting the Panthers version of Ginn, but, heck, the Niners and Dolphins version of Ginn didn't even show up.

to be fair, he might have been useful but we drafted john brown and he was relegated to return man because JB is simply better.
 

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to be fair, he might have been useful but we drafted john brown and he was relegated to return man because JB is simply better.

True, but BA should have got him out of there mid season. No idea why he keep him in there till the end.
 

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True, but BA should have got him out of there mid season. No idea why he keep him in there till the end.

Yeah it was unreal and baffling why he was still out there he was playing with no Hert and didnt wanna get hit it showed, what a Loser. I am glad hes back on the Panthers
 

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the one thing I'll say with Ginn is he was a result of a bad signing and then chasing that with bad coaching. All year Ginn brought balls out he should not have brought out. It was clear he was being coached to do it, that someone had done the stats tables and concluded you are better off taking a chance at a long return than just taking the ball at the 20. The problem was, Ted Ginn is the wrong guy to play that game with.

You play that game with a guy who puts his head down and tries to get yardage when it's obvious there's not a big return there, what Ginn would do is either jog out of bounds at the 12 yard line, or run sideways and get hit at the 8.

At a certain point the coaches have to take over, either change return men, or tell him to stop bringing so many balls out if he's going to run laterally like that all the time.

Guy drove me nuts all year.
 

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the one thing I'll say with Ginn is he was a result of a bad signing and then chasing that with bad coaching. All year Ginn brought balls out he should not have brought out. It was clear he was being coached to do it, that someone had done the stats tables and concluded you are better off taking a chance at a long return than just taking the ball at the 20. The problem was, Ted Ginn is the wrong guy to play that game with.

You play that game with a guy who puts his head down and tries to get yardage when it's obvious there's not a big return there, what Ginn would do is either jog out of bounds at the 12 yard line, or run sideways and get hit at the 8.

At a certain point the coaches have to take over, either change return men, or tell him to stop bringing so many balls out if he's going to run laterally like that all the time.

Guy drove me nuts all year.


He was certainly a mistake by SK but at least he was gone after one year. He was a major factor with the returns he made in the playoff game which despite how bad the Cardinal offense played had he not put the offense in a hole and not given the ball away the Cardinals would actually have been in the game at the very end.
 

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to be fair, he might have been useful but we drafted john brown and he was relegated to return man because JB is simply better.

I think a large reason he was brought in was for return duties.

And all we got was return doody's
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