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They just handed the Packers a loss!!

Wow! Does that make next Sunday's game against the Seahawks important!

Go BIG RED!!!
 

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Did you hear the announcers say that the GB loss hurts their home field advantage - AGAINST THE SEAHAWKS!!!

Talk about disrespect huh?

Unreal but I love it and expect it will pump up our team even more!
 

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Did you hear the announcers say that the GB loss hurts their home field advantage - AGAINST THE SEAHAWKS!!!

Talk about disrespect huh?

Unreal but I love it and expect it will pump up our team even more!

I heard that too. No mention of the Cardinals at all. Bunch of terds.
 

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Bills reminded me of us. Great D and if Ortman could throw this wouldn't have been close. Throwing behind receivers continually.
 

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Beat the Hawks and that'll seal the #1 seed. I believe the Cards have all the tie-breakers.

Not necessarily. . . a win over Seattle should clinch the division and a first-round bye. But if the Cardinals lose to SF and GB wins out, I believe it comes down to strength of victory (both teams would be 9-3 in conference games and 3-2 in common games).

At the start of the late games (12/14): When factoring in future wins and dropping out the wins we have in common (PHI and DET), the Cardinals currently lead the SoV tie-breaker 63 vs 54.5. Then there are games where the teams are guaranteed at least another point (for example, SF-SD where we get a point regardless of who wins), bringing the total to ARI-69 vs GB-60.5.

The Packers then have 12 more possible points, so they could still catch up. We have 10 more possible points.

For Green Bay: NYJ-ten, NE-buf, MIN-mia, CHI-no (x2), CHI-det (x2), MIN-det (x2), ATL-no, CRL-cle, TB-no, with teams helping GB in caps. For Arizona: OAK-buf, OAK-den, KC-pit, SD-den, WSH-phi, NYG-phi, STL-nyg, STL-sea, DAL-phi, DAL-ind, with teams helping us in caps.
 
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Not necessarily. . . a win over Seattle should clinch the division and a first-round bye. But if the Cardinals lose to SF and GB wins out, I believe it comes down to strength of victory (both teams would be 9-3 in conference games and 3-2 in common games).

At the start of the late games (12/14): When factoring in future wins and dropping out the wins we have in common (PHI and DET), the Cardinals currently lead the SoV tie-breaker 63 vs 54.5. Then there are games where the teams are guaranteed at least another point (for example, SF-SD where we get a point regardless of who wins), bringing the total to ARI-69 vs GB-60.5.

The Packers then have 12 more possible points, so they could still catch up. We have 10 more possible points.

For Green Bay: NYJ-ten, NE-buf, MIN-mia, CHI-no (x2), CHI-det (x2), MIN-det (x2), ATL-no, CRL-cle, TB-no, with teams helping GB in caps. For Arizona: OAK-buf, OAK-den, KC-pit, SD-den, WSH-phi, NYG-phi, STL-nyg, STL-sea, DAL-phi, DAL-ind.

My head hurts... why don't we just keep winning instead? :D
 

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And some more. . .
Of those potential points, seven are still available this weekend.

The Packers have NYJ, CHI (x2), MIN (x2). We have SD and DAL.
Any combination (favoring us) adding up to FOUR, clinches the SoV for us and would make the Seattle game next week and win-and-clinch everything scenario for us.

The "points" for us are: TEN, NO, NO, DET, DET, SD, DAL.

Ironically, a MIN win over DET clinches the playoffs for us, but helps GB tremendously in the SoV category.
 
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And some more. . .
Of those potential points, seven are still available this weekend.

The Packers have NYJ, CHI (x2), MIN (x2). We have SD and DAL.
Any combination (favoring us) adding up to FOUR, clinches the SoV for us and would make the Seattle game next week and win-and-clinch everything scenario for us.

The "points" for us are: TEN, NO, NO, DET, DET, SD, DAL.

Ironically, a MIN win over DET clinches the playoffs for us, but helps GB tremendously in the SoV category.

You've become my favorite poster! This stuff is great. Thank you.
 

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And even more. . .

The only way I see the Cards missing the playoffs now involves ties in the DAL-PHI game AND the DET-GB game.

Also note, my earlier post about the SoV tiebreaker over GB doesn't apply if our remaining win is against SF instead of SEA. The Packers would have us covered on common games (3-2 vs 2-3).
 

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They just handed the Packers a loss!!

Wow! Does that make next Sunday's game against the Seahawks important!

Go BIG RED!!!

Yep. If we can pull off a miracle(and SF can today) I believe we clinch the division and the #1 seed because we own all the tie breakers in conference.
 

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Beat the Hawks and that'll seal the #1 seed. I believe the Cards have all the tie-breakers.

I believe you're right. When there were 6 games left, as long as we won 3 games down the stretch that would force Seattle or SF into running the table just to catch us.
 

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Yep. If we can pull off a miracle(and SF can today) I believe we clinch the division and the #1 seed because we own all the tie breakers in conference.

Not yet on all tie-breakers. GB can still beat us in certain tie-breakers.
 

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Not if cards win 12 GB cannot beat us if we both wind up with 12.

I think the Packers can beat us at 12-4. No head-to-head. We would have the same conference record (9-3).

If our win is against SF, GB wins on common games (SEA/ATL/DET/PHI). They would be 3-2, we would be 2-3.

If our win is against SEA, we would be tied on common games. We lead on the SoV tie-breaker as outlined above, but not yet clinched.
 

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I think the Packers can beat us at 12-4. No head-to-head. We would have the same conference record (9-3).

If our win is against SF, GB wins on common games (SEA/ATL/DET/PHI). They would be 3-2, we would be 2-3.

If our win is against SEA, we would be tied on common games. We lead on the SoV tie-breaker as outlined above, but not yet clinched.

No, they cannot: I ran it through the playoff scenario builder at ESPN.
 

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