Thank you buffalo!!!

[Cheesebeef]

I think the Packers can beat us at 12-4. No head-to-head. We would have the same conference record (9-3).

If our win is against SF, GB wins on common games (SEA/ATL/DET/PHI). They would be 3-2, we would be 2-3.

If our win is against SEA, we would be tied on common games. We lead on the SoV tie-breaker as outlined above, but not yet clinched.

i think this is right. we can't end up tied with GB.

 

[TheCardinal]

No, they cannot: I ran it through the playoff scenario builder at ESPN.

ESPN's playoff machine has a bunch of glitches. I tried it there and got Cardinals. I don't agree with it. I then tried the one at Yahoo, which gives it to GB.

 

[Shaggy]

Looks like the refs are bailing out Seattle.

Yes they are. Crazy bad calling.

 

[Metcalf Rules]

You'd think the way Joe Buck and Aikman are gushing over Seattle, they already have the division and home field wrapped up. sheesh.

 

[TheCardinal]

The Lions' win puts off our playoff clinching for a few hours, but takes away two possible points for the Packers in the SoV tie-breaker. They do barely get one with the Jets, and we are denied one with the Chargers. Packers trail by 7.5 with 9 possible. We also have 9 possible. Left this weekend: DAL for us, CHI (worth 2) for Packers. If the Saints beat the Bears, it wipes away two points for GB, leaving them 7.5 back with only 7 possible. I believe it would then make our game against SEA a clinching opportunity for the 1-seed.

 

[GatorAZ]

You'd think the way Joe Buck and Aikman are gushing over Seattle, they already have the division and home field wrapped up. sheesh.

Lol at some fans.

 

[PJ1]

You'd think the way Joe Buck and Aikman are gushing over Seattle, they already have the division and home field wrapped up. sheesh.

Them and everyone else. Games still have to be played. GO CARDINALS!

 

[TheCardinal]

Just recalculated the SoV for the 1-seed (after the late games), applied should the Cards beat only SEA while GB wins over TB and DET.

Arizona with 70 points guaranteed (+9 possible), Packers with 61.5 (+9 possible). According to this, Green Bay must win ALL their possible points, and the Cards win NONE. In other words, if the Cardinals beat Seattle, the only way GB passes us is if:

Week 15:
CHI over NO
PHI over DAL
Week 16:
MIN over MIA
ATL over NO
CHI over DET
CRL over CLE
PIT over KC
BUF over OAK
PHI over WSH
NYG over STL
IND over DAL
GB over TB
Week 17:
SF over ARI
GB over DET
NE over BUF
TB over NO
DEN over OAK
PHI over NYG
SEA over STL

 

[BillsCarnage]

Not necessarily. . . a win over Seattle should clinch the division and a first-round bye. But if the Cardinals lose to SF and GB wins out, I believe it comes down to strength of victory (both teams would be 9-3 in conference games and 3-2 in common games).

Right, but I thought strength-of-schedule (SoS) came before SoV? In that instance the Cards have a stronger schedule.

 

[TheCardinal]

Right, but I thought strength-of-schedule (SoS) came before SoV? In that instance the Cards have a stronger schedule.

The SoV comes just before SoS.

 

[BillsCarnage]

The SoV comes just before SoS.

The ESPN one has the Cards still ahead on SoV with a loss to the Hawks and win against Santa Clara - with a SEA loss to the Rams in week 17 - and the Pack winning out.

Just make it easy and win next week

 

[TheCardinal]

The ESPN one has the Cards still ahead on SoV with a loss to the Hawks and win against Santa Clara - with a SEA loss to the Rams in week 17 - and the Pack winning out.

Just make it easy and win next week

The ESPN playoff machine has given messed up results in the past. The CBS guys have reported the same problems. They have a message thread if you search for CBS playoffs, or something like that. I think one of them does the official NFL scenarios, and will await their posts. They don't trust those computerized generators either.