The Speed WR

[Mitch]

If you watched T.Y. Hilton last night---without him there's no way the Colts win that game.

Speed is such a key difference maker in the NFL now.

It certainly is a key element to BA's vertical passing game, which BA was unable to unveil this year in Arizona because of LT issues and the lack of speed at the WR position.

The reason why BA turned to Patrick Peterson was because it took a little of the sting out of not choosing or being in the right position to draft a legit speed WR.

Outside of LT, speed at WR is the top priority this off-season. It wasn't addressed last year because of other needs, but this year, it will be addressed in FA and early in the draft.

To BA's credit, he adjusted the offense this past year because of the lack of personnel.

The offense is going to get a lot faster and a lot more dynamic next year.

 

[EndZone]

Any FreeAgents who could fill the speed need? Or who to look to in the draft?

 

[WildBB]

If you watched T.Y. Hilton last night---without him there's no way the Colts win that game.

Speed is such a key difference maker in the NFL now.

It certainly is a key element to BA's vertical passing game, which BA was unable to unveil this year in Arizona because of LT issues and the lack of speed at the WR position.

The reason why BA turned to Patrick Peterson was because it took a little of the sting out of not choosing or being in the right position to draft a legit speed WR.

Outside of LT, speed at WR is the top priority this off-season. It wasn't addressed last year because of other needs, but this year, it will be addressed in FA and early in the draft.

To BA's credit, he adjusted the offense this past year because of the lack of personnel.

The offense is going to get a lot faster and a lot more dynamic next year.

Bring it on. Having Luck back there didn't hurt either.

I think that you have to draft your own because good speed receivers aren't let go. I think Andre Roberts' days could be numbered unless he wants to stay real reasonably.

 

[Darkside]

TY was a stud last night but Luck is a beast and can make anyone look like Reggie Wayne. TY didn't pick up that fumble on the 3 and dive Superman style for the TD--that was all beast QB.

Speed WR is a need but I don't believe it's as necessary as everyone thinks--Carson underthrew the slow receivers we do have; getting faster players won't fix that. The line would do more to fix that than another receiver. Even a better TE would help more.

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[Cardiac]

If you watched T.Y. Hilton last night---without him there's no way the Colts win that game.

Speed is such a key difference maker in the NFL now.

It certainly is a key element to BA's vertical passing game, which BA was unable to unveil this year in Arizona because of LT issues and the lack of speed at the WR position.

The reason why BA turned to Patrick Peterson was because it took a little of the sting out of not choosing or being in the right position to draft a legit speed WR.

Outside of LT, speed at WR is the top priority this off-season. It wasn't addressed last year because of other needs, but this year, it will be addressed in FA and early in the draft.

To BA's credit, he adjusted the offense this past year because of the lack of personnel.

The offense is going to get a lot faster and a lot more dynamic next year.

I agree with most of this. LT then TE and then speed WR are the top priorities on offense this offseason. We do have Golden who could still develop and I'm sure they will find an UDFA or two with blazing speed.

I do reserve the right to change my mind as the offseason unfolds.

 

[daves]

Carson underthrew the slow receivers we do have; getting faster players won't fix that.

Not disagreeing with your main point, but I seem to remember just as many or more deep balls that were overthrown. I was a bit disappointed in Palmer's accuracy / timing on deep balls, but not in his arm strength.

...dave

 

[GimmedaBall]

If you watched T.Y. Hilton last night---without him there's no way the Colts win that game.

Speed is such a key difference maker in the NFL now.

It certainly is a key element to BA's vertical passing game, which BA was unable to unveil this year in Arizona because of LT issues and the lack of speed at the WR position.

The reason why BA turned to Patrick Peterson was because it took a little of the sting out of not choosing or being in the right position to draft a legit speed WR.

Outside of LT, speed at WR is the top priority this off-season. It wasn't addressed last year because of other needs, but this year, it will be addressed in FA and early in the draft.

To BA's credit, he adjusted the offense this past year because of the lack of personnel.

The offense is going to get a lot faster and a lot more dynamic next year.

Believe Swope was supposed to be the speed WR that we drafted last year. Probably one of the mistakes made during the draft as he fell several rounds. Other teams must have been on to his concussion history and he had to retire before even taking the pre-season practice field.

 

[football karma]

Believe Swope was supposed to be the speed WR that we drafted last year. Probably one of the mistakes made during the draft as he fell several rounds. Other teams must have been on to his concussion history and he had to retire before even taking the pre-season practice field.

Not quite true. During off season otas, apparently he dove /went up for a ball and hit his head when he landed. Had concussion symptoms that didn't go away very quickly. That's why he retired.

 

[Ohcrap75]

Isn't the whole idea of having a speed wr to either use him for deep shots down the field or draw extra attention leaving short and intermediate areas of the field open? Just because floyd or Fitzgerald don't run a 4.3, does that mean they don't essentially do the same thing? Even though neither will run by a db, they will either draw an extra safety or have a mismatch against a cb. I am all for adding another weapon that can stretch the field but just not sold we have to limit ourselves to only those who use speed to do so.

 

[Buckybird]

If you watched T.Y. Hilton last night---without him there's no way the Colts win that game.

Speed is such a key difference maker in the NFL now.

It certainly is a key element to BA's vertical passing game, which BA was unable to unveil this year in Arizona because of LT issues and the lack of speed at the WR position.

The reason why BA turned to Patrick Peterson was because it took a little of the sting out of not choosing or being in the right position to draft a legit speed WR.

Outside of LT, speed at WR is the top priority this off-season. It wasn't addressed last year because of other needs, but this year, it will be addressed in FA and early in the draft.

To BA's credit, he adjusted the offense this past year because of the lack of personnel.

The offense is going to get a lot faster and a lot more dynamic next year.

Mitch we've been saying this for how many years now?
Just like the OLB position, which the Cards need a differance maker!!!

Depending on how the draft falls two guys I really like are Kyle Van Noy & Tevin Reese from Baylor. I've watched Reese the last 2 years now being here in Texas & he truely is a reincarnation of Hilton...big plays spectacular!!!

 

[Buckybird]

Believe Swope was supposed to be the speed WR that we drafted last year. Probably one of the mistakes made during the draft as he fell several rounds. Other teams must have been on to his concussion history and he had to retire before even taking the pre-season practice field.

Swoope was never A&M's deep threat.

 

[overseascardfan]

Look up Jeff Janis on NFL Draft Countdown. He is a small school guy, Saginaw Valley State, but his measurables are pretty remarkable if true, 6'3 218 4.36 40-yard dash! He caught 106 passes for 1,635 yards with 17 TD's just this season. He averaged over 20 yards per catch and 14 TD's last year on 48 receptions.

He will be at the Senior Bowl and should be one to keep an eye on.

 

[juza76]

i make de anthony thomas name.he just declared
5'9 177lb , 4.3 40 yard dash
runner catcher
due to lack of weight is better suited as receiver
playmaker ,gamebreaker
tj hilton type

 

[az jam]

Wonder if WR Marqise Lee USC would fit that need. He may be there at #20 but we have bigger needs at OT and OLB/DE. Any thoughts on him???

 

[Matt L]

Wonder if WR Marqise Lee USC would fit that need. He may be there at #20 but we have bigger needs at OT and OLB/DE. Any thoughts on him???

A year ago I would have said you are crazy if you think he will last to the 20th pick. Now, I could see him sliding. That said, picking another WR seems like overkill at the position

 

[BurqueCardFan]

A speed WR may be a need for this team but there is no way we should be picking one in the 1st round. Guys like TY Hilton, Desean Jackson, etc... can be found in the later rounds. Unless a WR is the absolute BPA in round one, we should be going elsewhere with that pick.

 

[GimmedaBall]

Swoope was never A&M's deep threat.

More when Tannehill was at QB as compared to Johnny Football. Had a 4.3 at the Combine with a RB back body. Would have made a great slot receiver---with his speed I believe he would have been used to stretch the field as well (and saved the wear-and-tear on PP). It would have been interesting to see how BA would have used him. BA moved Ellington around at RB/WR. Swope could have been used the same only WR/RB.

Swope went down with a final concussion in OTA and never made it to the pre-season training camp.

http://www.azcardinals.com/news-and-events/article-2/Ryan-Swope-Put-On-Reserve-Retired-List/d5feeea2-bfba-40d4-804d-0440c5e48eed

 

[Ohcrap75]

If swope decides to give the nfl another try, we still have his rights?

 

[Cardiac]

If swope decides to give the nfl another try, we still have his rights?

Yes

 

[DoTheDew]

It's certainly true that we need a speed WR. T.Y. Hilton was a 3rd round pick, and that's the beauty of it. We can get a quality speed WR in the middle of the draft. There's absolutely no need to spend an early pick on the position, but there absolutely is a need to find a speed WR.

 

[Chopper0080]

i make de anthony thomas name.he just declared
5'9 177lb , 4.3 40 yard dash
runner catcher
due to lack of weight is better suited as receiver
playmaker ,gamebreaker
tj hilton type

I imagine the Cards will take a look at him. I keep reading about Robert Herron out of Wyoming as a Steve Smith deep threat. small guy, but good speed and strength down the field which allows him to keep from being redirected off his route. a guy I will be watching for.

 

[juza76]

I imagine the Cards will take a look at him. I keep reading about Robert Herron out of Wyoming as a Steve Smith deep threat. small guy, but good speed and strength down the field which allows him to keep from being redirected off his route. a guy I will be watching for.

Right.i think is a name that make sense a lot.
I dont see keim drafting a wr early.
Arians said he is a great evaluator of rbs and wrs.so u dont need to draft them early.
Wrs is a deep class,no reason to draft early.
Pass rush is a need and many good pass rusher will be available at 20 spot

 

[az jam]

I imagine the Cards will take a look at him. I keep reading about Robert Herron out of Wyoming as a Steve Smith deep threat. small guy, but good speed and strength down the field which allows him to keep from being redirected off his route. a guy I will be watching for.

He will be in the Senior Bowl.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

Any Free Agents who could fill the speed need? Or who to look to in the draft?

Free Agency:

- Golden Tate: He won't be going anywhere, Seattle will resign him, but you never know. He is one of those guys that might be "lost in the shuffle". He annoys the hell out of me, but if he was on my team ? Different story. Never gonna happen, but he is on my list.

- Jacoby Jones: I think the Ravens would be nuts to let this guy go. A decent receiver, but a deadly Kick Returner. His speed is unquestioned. His price will be the wildcard.

- Tedd Ginn, Jr.: I think the Panthers would be nuts to let this guy go. He has a very quiet year, but a year good year. He still has amazing speed, and his hands are finally catching up to his feet. Another good kick returner as well, and again the price will be the wildcard.

- Emanuel Sanders: Not really a fan of this player. He knows Bruce Arians system, but he is not as fast as you would think, and his hands are not as good as you would think. But, he is used as a burner in the league, so I guess he is.

- Brad Smith [Jets]: Good speed. A decent receiver, and has a lot of skill doing various other things on the field. He may be worth bringing in for a look.




Draft:

- Odell Beckham, Jr., LSU (Round 3): A little high for a a 3rd round guy, but Beckham has what the Cardinals are looking for. A wide receiver that can stretch the defense vertically. He can return kicks, but where the Cardinals need him, and what his role at LSU has always been is a player that can give you "chunk plays".

- Josh Huff, Oregon (Round 3): A little high for a a 3rd round guy, and a little undersized. He is more of a slot guy, but he has speed along with quickness to stretch defenses. If it were between Beckham and Huff, the Cardinals would pick Beckham, but Huff sitting alone, or where to drop, he is a canidate for the speed receiver position.

- Tevin Reese, Baylor (Round 3-5): Again, the Cardinals are not spending a 1st or 2nd round pick on a WR, and it would have to be something special if they were to spend a 3rd round pick. Reese, is the type of player the Cardinals are looking for. Reese has the main thing the Caridnals want, big time speed. His size will make him a slot receiver but as we have seen with Brittan Golden that is not a problem in this offense.

- Jalen Saunders, Oklahoma (Round 5-UDFA): I have already seen this kid's name up on ASFN and for good reason. The biggest knock on the kid is his size. He is small. Yet, his speed is top of the line. His role in the NFL would be the same as it was in college. Stretch the field, and go deep.


JMHO.

Mitch can probably add some 1st and 2nd round prospects to that draft list, BTW.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

Mitch we've been saying this for how many years now?
Just like the OLB position, which the Cards need a differance maker!!!

Depending on how the draft falls two guys I really like are Kyle Van Noy & Tevin Reese from Baylor. I've watched Reese the last 2 years now being here in Texas & he truely is a reincarnation of Hilton...big plays spectacular!!!

For all the years the Cardinals didn't have anyone to throw it to a speed WR, and all the years the Cardinals didn't have anyone who could block long enough for the WR to get down the field.

But, that has changed, and this offseason, the opportunity to use a draft pick or some free agent money on this need has arrived.