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Does this FO have a clue? Keeping old ass no D playing Steve Nash and getting rid of Shaq? Resigning Grant Hill? Channing Frye? Ya, were doomed..

I have no idea why Grant resigned here.. Must be because Nash pulled some strings.. We aint winning crap with that dude telling the FO who should stay and go.. The head trainer left to start his own business in Colorado.. Grant is ancient in NBA years now..

Im a UA fan but Channing aint doing nothing.. This is the plan?

We should have blown up this team.. Kerr couldnt even trade STAT properly..

What a joke this franchise has become.. Why kiss up to Nash instead of getting value for him and have him make a call to bring back Grant? It just seems really odd.. But I guess when you trade away all your draft picks for nothing you gotta cling onto something.. Even if they are old ass men that will give the owner cash sales for jerseys..

Get ready for 4-5 of POS basketball..

Its a Steve circle jerk at this point.. Ker and Nash and the owner waving his #1 foam finger coartside obvlious to the fact we suck..

Cardinals are about to start.. Thank God..

BTW.. STAT doesnt deserve the money he askes for.. He has peaked and he's one hit away from being a crippled Stevie Wonder.. If I was a business man, I wouldnt invest in him.. Stranger things have happened though.. I just hope we dont get more forgeiners on this team..
 

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So are you mad that the Suns arent trading for young players and start rebuilding?

Or because they didnt sign any big free agent names?

Because for the second scenario I think either way, sign or no sign big agent, Suns are just 6th seed max out west... so might as well save cash for next season.
 

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The Head Trainer left? Does anyone have any info on this? First I've heard of it.
 

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I read one of the trainers left to start a business in Colorado, too. I don't think it was Nelson, though.
 

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Does this FO have a clue? Keeping old ass no D playing Steve Nash and getting rid of Shaq? Resigning Grant Hill? Channing Frye? Ya, were doomed.
Every once in awhile, the Suns try a sporadic attempt to stray from their 42-year MO -- put on a good show at home / don't embarrass yourself on the road / make an appearance in the playoffs. And go light at Center.

It's back.
 

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Every once in awhile, the Suns try a sporadic attempt to stray from their 42-year MO -- put on a good show at home / don't embarrass yourself on the road / make an appearance in the playoffs. And go light at Center.

It's back.

Sometimes one has to face the truth. The Suns don't have the guns to reach the finals or maybe even the playoffs. I would like a little entertainment with my basketball rather than watching the Suns get mauled every night. Quality centers are hard to find. I was hoping the Suns might become a better team with Shaq but it just wasn't meant to be. Now if only some team would give the Suns a center like Gasol.
 

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Sometimes one has to face the truth. The Suns don't have the guns to reach the finals or maybe even the playoffs. I would like a little entertainment with my basketball rather than watching the Suns get mauled every night. Quality centers are hard to find. I was hoping the Suns might become a better team with Shaq but it just wasn't meant to be. Now if only some team would give the Suns a center like Gasol.

If injuries are normal, and not catastrophic, the Suns will be a 6 seed this year.
 

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If injuries are normal, and not catastrophic, the Suns will be a 6 seed this year.

Maybe. The Suns health (especially Amare) is the key for the Suns to have a playoff season. If the Suns could only sign Wilcox to solidify the 4/5.
 

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This is BS..



Agree.
And who is deleting threads. I spent 2 hours and can't find what I wrote. If you are going to do something like that at least tell me before you just vaporize the whole thing so I can save it somewhere else.
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This is going to be an absolutely terrible defensive team folks. Our best defenders will be two guys that play the same position.Three if you want to add the rookie to the mix. Rebounding?...forget it.
It's possible that Kerr isn't done retooling i guess, but he'd have to come up with something pretty special to fix our obvious holes.
 

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Gooden is a pretty good rebounder, would start at PF for us easily and isn't getting a lot of attention in free agency, would be a great below the radar signing.
 

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Sorry Need to vent here:
Being a SUNS fan has grown difficult for me. I may seek counseling. Or i may just latch onto a franchise that isn't so focused on just scoring points. Or i may give it a couple more years. Not sure. LOL
The Scott Skiles experiment failed....Porter got canned, so I guess thats it? We're gonna keep on runnin,gunnin and scoring pts and signing the Channing Frye's of the world to shore up the lack of "D" in the frontcourt..........ok.
I've put in my time with this team....I was a believer in whatever this franchise wanted to do from '88 up until the KT/two 1st rd picks for $$$ trade....now its obvious to me that the more things change,the more they're going to stay the same with the SUNS.
Bahahahh

thx
 

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Sorry Need to vent here:
Being a SUNS fan has grown difficult for me. I may seek counseling. Or i may just latch onto a franchise that isn't so focused on just scoring points. Or i may give it a couple more years. Not sure. LOL
The Scott Skiles experiment failed....Porter got canned, so I guess thats it? We're gonna keep on runnin,gunnin and scoring pts and signing the Channing Frye's of the world to shore up the lack of "D" in the frontcourt..........ok.
I've put in my time with this team....I was a believer in whatever this franchise wanted to do from '88 up until the KT/two 1st rd picks for $$$ trade....now its obvious to me that the more things change,the more they're going to stay the same with the SUNS.
Bahahahh

thx


I'm with you on that. I've always tried to stay positive with the suns, but that really hasn't got me anywhere. They keep disappointing, and they don't seem to address the issues that prevent them from getting over the top. I'm still in favor of run and gun, but you have to be able to play some d and half court ball when it matters, or when you need that crucial stop, rebound, or point.

Some years we were able to do that better than others, but it seems like we have just gotten older while not really addressing the issues that prevent the team from becoming elite.
 

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I know I too have changed the last couple seasons. I went from being the eternal optimist to a realist IMO. I just don't have it in me to hold back very many punches any longer. I just call it like I see it now. For me anything short of a title is failure...pure and simple.
 

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Welcome to the club guys.

The first few years it was exciting just have an NBA team in town. It was a couple of years into the John Mcleod era when I first started having hopes of more and started being disappointed with the moves he made or didn't make. The first one that I recall clearly was John refusing to play Ricky Sobers more. Ricky was a rookie or second year shooting guard, and made the kind of mistakes you'd expect from a youngster. Like D'Antoni, John preferred to go with a short bench rather than play a guy who brought a ton of energy to the floor. It drove me nuts for months.

Usually one never finds out for sure the coach is wrong but this year van Arsdale broke his arm about Feb and McLeod had to insert Sobers. The team hung on while vA was out but when he came back, John made the best move of his coaching career - he kept Ricky as a starter and vA moved to sixth man, covering SG and SF. That improved two positions and the team went on a tear - and lost to the eventual NBA champions Warriors in the conf. finals.

Lost in the haze of time is the reason the same lineup wasn't effective after that year... I think Sobers was injured a lot then was traded - never to sparkle again like he did his first/second year.

The effect on me was long lasting - I never again assumed a coach knew what the heck he was doing just because somebody saw fit to make him a head coach in the NBA. I do have a little better perspective on it now though - the pressure on them is so intense that its a very rare one than can maintain his poise and use his brain effectively. I've also decided after watching Ainge, Skiles, FJ and D'Antoni going nuts on the sidelines that that is one sign of a coach that is in over his head. Sitting quietly and keeping your wits about you, doesn't make you a good coach but at least, you're not making it obvious to the whole world that you have no confidence what you've been teaching the guys in practice.
 

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I wonder what the excuses will be this year when/if the SUNS start losing games?
.......Shaq's gone so thats out

Nash got his SSOL head coach back so he/we can't blame Porter, bad coaching or a philosophy that wants to try to actually guard people.

Nash,JRich,Barbosa,Amare, Grant Hill,Frye will dominate the minutes over the young guns(Dudley/Clark/Dragic/Lopez/Lou) so we can't blame it on youth.

Nash will be asked hard questions if the SUNS are 22-23 at the all star break.
He's always been very PC when speaking publicly, showing respect and speaking with class and dignity so.....whats he gonna say?
"Hey we're having fun,guys are playing hard,our young guys need to step up,we need to play better defense together"
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..!! STOP. What?! better defense? FAIL.

Maybe he'll just be honest.
".....you guys can just rebuild when i'm done here....haha."
 

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Playoff revenue is always a factor. I imagine as much for Sarver as anyone else, if not more so. A 6-8 seed usually means a guaranteed two home games in the postseason, and sometimes more (you know Sarver would love a 2-3-2 format). An entertaining team that scores and accomplishes the above is good business.

But of course for us fans watching year after year, it gets frustrating, because even most badly managed teams end up with a lottery pick that switches on the lightbulb.

The worst part is that I think SSOL could have won a championship. I think we forget how devastating the team was with a healthy JJ in the lineup. Honestly, if we had him against Dallas, I think we would have won. Against San Antonio when Nash gets the bloody nose, it becomes an entirely different story. And I think we could have beaten anyone coming out of the east, unless Detroit repeated their form from '04.

But that's dreaming.
 

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Part of being a fan is being an optimist if you don't have a little of that in you then just don't watch! Its sports entertainment and no doubt they will be fun to watch play personally I take the entertainment over having a boring ass half court team like the Spurs to watch play thugball, to each their own...I like high scoring entertaining bball!
 

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Part of being a fan is being an optimist if you don't have a little of that in you then just don't watch! Its sports entertainment and no doubt they will be fun to watch play personally I take the entertainment over having a boring ass half court team like the Spurs to watch play thugball, to each their own...I like high scoring entertaining bball!


So you are like that one guy on every team thats over pouting after a victory and when asked why they are down they reply with the "i didnt get my touches" remarks. The I would rather lose and score 25 than win and score 7 guy. Ill take the boring victory over the entertaining loss anyday.
 

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