Time for coach to practice patience

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Nov. 30, 2004 12:00 AM

One door opened and another shut Monday. In the hallway separating the two, a place better known as Cardinals purgatory, Josh McCown watched his career flash before his eyes.

John Navarre is in, Shaun King is out, and Dennis Green is checking off at the line of scrimmage again.

That makes three starting quarterbacks in four weeks, two offensive line coaches in one season and an array of tweaks to an offense in dire of need of stability, the very trait that has helped the defense succeed.



Patience is hardly Green's strong suit, but if he can exercise a little with Navarre, his decision to start the rookie Sunday in Detroit could prove to be his best decision of the season.

The Cardinals need to know what Navarre can do. They have important decisions to make about the position in the off-season.

Do they draft a quarterback? Do they sign a free agent? Do they keep McCown, who will be a restricted free agent after the season?

Green insists the change was made because he believes Navarre gives the Cardinals the best chance to win. Maybe that's true. Consider the sneak preview an added bonus.

The timing of McCown's benching two weeks ago was questionable, but the damage is done. It sent a message to the team that Green had lost confidence in the quarterback.

The truth is, if McCown had played better, none of this would matter. But it happened.

Green wrongly turned to King, rightly turned to Navarre and now the Cardinals will have a better idea of how to manage the off-season.

Plus, Navarre might just win a few games for this team.

Since Navarre arrived in Tempe as a seventh-round draft pick out of Michigan, his work ethic has impressed the coaching staff.

He practically lived at the training facility during the summer, poring through hours of tape so that when he stepped onto the practice field, he would be prepared.

Green, who runs the scout team, picked up on it right away.

"Whether it was a Jeff Christy, a Dave Dixon or a Matt Birk or Daunte Culpepper, now you can add John Navarre to that group," Green said of former Minnesota scout-team standouts. "You work with him every day on the scout team, you get a decent feel for the guy. You get a feel for what he does, how he responds, the way he can command a huddle and all those other things."

If you think Navarre will be rattled Sunday, understand that he wears an emotional coat of armor from the beating he took being not only the most prolific passer in Michigan history but also the most scorned.

His father, Larry, never attended games in a Navarre jersey and often checked into hotels under a pseudonym. John often received hundreds of e-mails after games suggesting he transfer or worse.

"(The pressure) at Michigan definitely prepares me for the pressure here," Navarre said. "You learn what's expected of you and how to handle it."

That Navarre will make his first NFL start in Ford Field, a stadium 40 miles east of Ann Arbor, is a bizarre twist of fate.

Those who think the potential boo birds will rattle Navarre don't appreciate how much the Michigan experience hardened him.

"I don't think it will bother him that much," his father said Monday from Wisconsin. "If anything, it might motivate him to show them what he can do."

What Navarre hopes to do is showcase his strong arm and make smart decisions.

He'll need an underachieving offense line to rise to the occasion.

And a coach to have a little patience.


http://www.azcentral.com/sports/columns/articles/1130boivin1130.html
 

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This looks like an AP story.
I'm amazed that the Navarre promotion has gotten as much national ink as it has.
 

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Brighteyes said:
Paula Boivin!

MAYBE ... Navarre will do something. He looked great in camp -- months back -- without any defense ...
A lot of players look good on practice field. But, at this point, we don't have any choice.

King sucks in a major manner. He appears to be a goner next year.

McCown is done as far as Cardinals are concerned. Whatever little confidence he had left must now be gone the way the whole situation was handled. He was not getting it done in the first place.

so, bring on the rookie...
 

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az1965 said:
A lot of players look good on practice field. But, at this point, we don't have any choice.

King sucks in a major manner. He appears to be a goner next year.

McCown is done as far as Cardinals are concerned. Whatever little confidence he had left must now be gone the way the whole situation was handled. He was not getting it done in the first place.

so, bring on the rookie...

I don't think McCown is necessarily done in Arizona. I still think Green likes him and wants to work to develop him more. If anything, he's a pretty decent backup. As for King, I think he is gone.
 

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az1965 said:
A lot of players look good on practice field. But, at this point, we don't have any choice.

King sucks in a major manner. He appears to be a goner next year.

McCown is done as far as Cardinals are concerned. Whatever little confidence he had left must now be gone the way the whole situation was handled. He was not getting it done in the first place.

so, bring on the rookie...
Yes and a lot of players look bad on the practice field, would you rather start one of those ?
 

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pete said:
I don't think McCown is necessarily done in Arizona. I still think Green likes him and wants to work to develop him more. If anything, he's a pretty decent backup. As for King, I think he is gone.
Since Green still believes that playoff is a possibility and that his elevtion of Navarre is not to evaluate him but to win, this does not bode well for McCown. A #2 QB has to to come in and run the team effectively enough in case starting QB goes down. Danny's frustrated with him. I don't think Denny has any confidence left in McCown. It would be really interesting if he brings McCown back next year even as a #2.
 

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az1965 said:
Since Green still believes that playoff is a possibility and that his elevtion of Navarre is not to evaluate him but to win, this does not bode well for McCown. A #2 QB has to to come in and run the team effectively enough in case starting QB goes down. Danny's frustrated with him. I don't think Denny has any confidence left in McCown. It would be really interesting if he brings McCown back next year even as a #2.


When the third string guy starts and the other two aren't hurt, It's time to put the house on the market if you are the 1 and 2 qb's.
 

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pete said:
I don't think McCown is necessarily done in Arizona. I still think Green likes him and wants to work to develop him more. If anything, he's a pretty decent backup. As for King, I think he is gone.

It will all depend on Navarre. If he wins a couple of games and looks impressive finishing out the season, McCown may be tendered at a manageable cap number and be able to compete for the back up position with say a Jon Kitna type player. I agree King and his $950K salary are history.
 

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az1965 said:
A #2 QB has to to come in and run the team effectively enough in case starting QB goes down.

McCown has shown he can do that. He just isn't the gamebreaking 300 ypg/3 TDs passing QB that Green wants him to be at this point. That is why Navarre is getting the shot. Maybe he is that guy right now.
 

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I still dont think McCown is gone. There is no way you let a 25 yr old 3rd year Qb go after one year in your system. He may not be the starter anymore, but he would benefit from another year in the system and backup whoever the starter is next year. I just dont see the team dumping 2 Qbs in one offseason. You need a vet that has been in your system for at least a year to fall back on in case the new guy can't git er done
 

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I still dont think McCown is gone. There is no way you let a 25 yr old 3rd year Qb go after one year in your system. He may not be the starter anymore, but he would benefit from another year in the system and backup whoever the starter is next year. I just dont see the team dumping 2 Qbs in one offseason. You need a vet that has been in your system for at least a year to fall back on in case the new guy can't git er done


He dumped Blake and Parsons this offseason, and had 3 QB's new to his system.

Green never once had the same 3 QB's on his roster consecutive years in Minnesota, he ALWAYS replaces at least one guy and often two. If you're not moving up on the depth chart, he usually replaces you.
 

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Good point Russ. Maybe McCown is history if Navarre looks even halfway decent.

I think McCown is close to being a good QB. He has about 75% of what is needed these days. But maybe Green will say, hey, you had your shot, time to move onto the next guy.
 

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