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Big trade after the All-Star game was finished as the Mets traded KRod to the Brewers for two players to be named and cash.

Will the Diamondbacks be active?
 

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We've got Putz and Hernandez... I'd be shocked if they went after another closer.
We desperately need offense. We need a legit, high-average, high on-base % guy. I know... I know... people think I'm nuts as they tout are league standing in runs scored. We lack sustained offensive coming from first base and 3rd base. It's very, very hard to win consistently when you have that problem, coupled with the offensive woes we struggle with at 2nd base, shortstop, centerfield and even left field. We simply need a legit offensive threat - other than Upton, somewhere else on the field. Parra, Roberts, Blomquist are all nice players. But they are not every day players - at least in Gibby's mind.
 

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We've got Putz and Hernandez... I'd be shocked if they went after another closer.
We desperately need offense. We need a legit, high-average, high on-base % guy. I know... I know... people think I'm nuts as they tout are league standing in runs scored. We lack sustained offensive coming from first base and 3rd base. It's very, very hard to win consistently when you have that problem, coupled with the offensive woes we struggle with at 2nd base, shortstop, centerfield and even left field. We simply need a legit offensive threat - other than Upton, somewhere else on the field. Parra, Roberts, Blomquist are all nice players. But they are not every day players - at least in Gibby's mind.

Blah, blah, blah. What a pile of horsesh!t. Yes, Kelly is hurting the team. As for the rest...nonsense.

Maybe you haven't noticed, but Stephen does this every year. He's streaky, I'll give you that. Next month he may carry the team offensively. There is NOTHING WRONG WITH CHRIS YOUNG.....GET THAT THROUGH YOUR THICK STUBBORN SKULL!!! I seriously challenge you to find a National league center fielder with significantly better numbers. He is a 20/20 threat every year. Hell, he might nearly be a 30/30 threat every year. He is a great baseball player.

At least not in Gibby's mind.....really? Are you sleeping with Gibby or something? I will agree with you about Bloomquist, but in case you haven't noticed, he ISN'T an everyday player.

Now, stepping away from 82 and channeling my inner Chris Sanders....anyone advocating trading away Parra.....are you just friggin' stupid?? Who is out there that can A) hit .290 IN THE 8TH SPOT, (you know, THE HARDEST SPOT IN THE LINEUP) and B) play outstanding defense and C) have a cannon of an arm and D) be a great baserunner. He lacks power...true. Who is out there to replace all of that AND is only 24 years old...has had THREE different managers, AND makes only $426 K a year??? I'll wait.....because that guy doesn't exist.

What this team lacks is #1 A legit 1st baseman, #2 A 4 and 5 pitcher (Collmenter belongs in the pen because he is a one time through the lineup guy) and Duke just sucks. Finally #3 bullpen help. We have Hernandez and that's about it. Demel is good also.

Putz has had his splitter working maybe twice all year. It is SUPPOSED to come in looking like his fastball and then have late break and drop down. Almost every appearance he has made it just comes in flat and spikes in the dirt at 86 mph. That's why early in the year he was un-hittable (coming from the A.L.) hitters hadn't seen him, and lately he is getting torched. He is a broken record...94...94...86 in the dirt...94 high....94 crushed. Watch and tell me if I'm wrong.
 

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Blah, blah, blah. What a pile of horsesh!t. Yes, Kelly is hurting the team. As for the rest...nonsense.

Maybe you haven't noticed, but Stephen does this every year. He's streaky, I'll give you that. Next month he may carry the team offensively. There is NOTHING WRONG WITH CHRIS YOUNG.....GET THAT THROUGH YOUR THICK STUBBORN SKULL!!! I seriously challenge you to find a National league center fielder with significantly better numbers. He is a 20/20 threat every year. Hell, he might nearly be a 30/30 threat every year. He is a great baseball player.

At least not in Gibby's mind.....really? Are you sleeping with Gibby or something? I will agree with you about Bloomquist, but in case you haven't noticed, he ISN'T an everyday player.

Now, stepping away from 82 and channeling my inner Chris Sanders....anyone advocating trading away Parra.....are you just friggin' stupid?? Who is out there that can A) hit .290 IN THE 8TH SPOT, (you know, THE HARDEST SPOT IN THE LINEUP) and B) play outstanding defense and C) have a cannon of an arm and D) be a great baserunner. He lacks power...true. Who is out there to replace all of that AND is only 24 years old...has had THREE different managers, AND makes only $426 K a year??? I'll wait.....because that guy doesn't exist.

What this team lacks is #1 A legit 1st baseman, #2 A 4 and 5 pitcher (Collmenter belongs in the pen because he is a one time through the lineup guy) and Duke just sucks. Finally #3 bullpen help. We have Hernandez and that's about it. Demel is good also.

Putz has had his splitter working maybe twice all year. It is SUPPOSED to come in looking like his fastball and then have late break and drop down. Almost every appearance he has made it just comes in flat and spikes in the dirt at 86 mph. That's why early in the year he was un-hittable (coming from the A.L.) hitters hadn't seen him, and lately he is getting torched. He is a broken record...94...94...86 in the dirt...94 high....94 crushed. Watch and tell me if I'm wrong.

Couldn't be more right.
 

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Gio Gonzalez for AJ Pollock and Matt Davidson

That was listed in the "Trades that should happen" article on ESPN.com.

I wouldn't mind that trade one bit.
 

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Gio Gonzalez for AJ Pollock and Matt Davidson

That was listed in the "Trades that should happen" article on ESPN.com.

I wouldn't mind that trade one bit.

Do it in a heartbeat if Beane is stupid enough to do it.

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I take it you are an ESPN insider? I'm not and couldn't read the article.
 

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Yeah I think that is a bit of wishful thinking.

I am an ESPN Insider. I don't see Billy Beane giving him up unless they have to move him for salary reasons...kind of like the Dan Haren dump of 2010.
 

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Allen up, Blum to be activated. Oy, I always pull for the team but I'm not holding my breath here.

Hopefully this ends the Juan Miranda Experiment.
 

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Blah, blah, blah. What a pile of horsesh!t. Yes, Kelly is hurting the team. As for the rest...nonsense.

Maybe you haven't noticed, but Stephen does this every year. He's streaky, I'll give you that. Next month he may carry the team offensively. There is NOTHING WRONG WITH CHRIS YOUNG.....GET THAT THROUGH YOUR THICK STUBBORN SKULL!!! I seriously challenge you to find a National league center fielder with significantly better numbers. He is a 20/20 threat every year. Hell, he might nearly be a 30/30 threat every year. He is a great baseball player.

At least not in Gibby's mind.....really? Are you sleeping with Gibby or something? I will agree with you about Bloomquist, but in case you haven't noticed, he ISN'T an everyday player.

Now, stepping away from 82 and channeling my inner Chris Sanders....anyone advocating trading away Parra.....are you just friggin' stupid?? Who is out there that can A) hit .290 IN THE 8TH SPOT, (you know, THE HARDEST SPOT IN THE LINEUP) and B) play outstanding defense and C) have a cannon of an arm and D) be a great baserunner. He lacks power...true. Who is out there to replace all of that AND is only 24 years old...has had THREE different managers, AND makes only $426 K a year??? I'll wait.....because that guy doesn't exist.

What this team lacks is #1 A legit 1st baseman, #2 A 4 and 5 pitcher (Collmenter belongs in the pen because he is a one time through the lineup guy) and Duke just sucks. Finally #3 bullpen help. We have Hernandez and that's about it. Demel is good also.

Putz has had his splitter working maybe twice all year. It is SUPPOSED to come in looking like his fastball and then have late break and drop down. Almost every appearance he has made it just comes in flat and spikes in the dirt at 86 mph. That's why early in the year he was un-hittable (coming from the A.L.) hitters hadn't seen him, and lately he is getting torched. He is a broken record...94...94...86 in the dirt...94 high....94 crushed. Watch and tell me if I'm wrong.

Your assessment is very solid. I agree wholeheartedly. I believe that we could live with Roberts at third base, if we had a solid, power hitting, player at first. I like what Roberts brings emotionally to this team, as opposed to the emotionless stiff they are playing there now. Roberts is a very good compliment to Gibby on the field. (He reminds me of Red Shoendeist), the tempermental shortstop that fired the Cardinals infield of the '40s and '50s. Another power hitter at first base to pair with Upton would be a game changer in my opinion. Meanwhile Drew is superb on defense, and I will take his streaky hitting anytime with the brand of defense he provides. He and Kelley Johnson make a great middle infield combo.

Para is the quintessential LF for this outfield in my opinion. So very much talent in such a small package. He gives us another canon in LF to match the power of the one in RF, albeit with more accuracy. Chris Young is an elite CF who covers more ground than most, and has a decent glove. While his arm is not strong, he seldom makes bad throws, or throws to the wrong place. Yes, his hitting is streaky, but his kind of quickness and speed is much needed in CF. I believe that with Baylor's help, he will become a more confident and more reliable hitter as well. He is young and learning.

As for the closer, while the announcers would have us believe that his slump was due to a bad back, I am more inclined to agree with your assessment that he was new and different, being from the AL. He is no longer new and different, and the opposing hitters are on to him IMO. Meanwhile they appear to be having some success with honing Hernandez into becoming a closer, and that could still be the direction we will take eventually. He IS much better coming into an inning clean, than he is with runners on base. So far he has shown the inclination and the makeup for that job.

As for the power-hitting first baseman, I would like to see Paul Goldschmidt get a chance at that slot well before the trade deadline comes, so that we know if he is the real deal, or if we still need to work a trade for that position. If he is the guy for us, then we would be better suited to trade for pitching or a power hitting 3B player.

Meanwhile, I am looking forward to September, to see if any of our young pitching arms in the minors are ready to come to the bigs.
 
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. (He reminds me of Red Shoendeist), the tempermental shortstop that fired the Cardinals infield of the '40s and '50s.
hitting first baseman,s.

I remember Red,however he was the 2nd baseman not shortstop. Very good hitter. The Milwaukee Braves traded for him and he was the key for them in 1957 when the won the World Series. I know that because I grew up in Milwaukee and saw them play many times in the 50's. Marty Marion was the Cardinal shortstop during the 40's and early 50's.
 

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I remember Red,however he was the 2nd baseman not shortstop. Very good hitter. The Milwaukee Braves traded for him and he was the key for them in 1957 when the won the World Series. I know that because I grew up in Milwaukee and saw them play many times in the 50's. Marty Marion was the Cardinal shortstop during the 40's and early 50's.

You're correct of course. It was 2nd base, not short. Don't know how I got that wrong because 2nd was my position also. Time has a way of doing this to us older fogies. Anyway his demeanor reminds me of Red, and that is not a bad thing to have on the field at game time. Thanks for the backup.

Incidently, that must have been a wonderful season for you who lived in Milwaukee. Hammerin' Hank, and that solid 3B, (also whose name escapes me now), but hit about 280 with power, and Red. Then there was Sphann and Siene and pray for rain-----Gene Woodley was never the answer. That was the core of an absolutely wonderful team. You must have wonderful memories-----good for you.
 
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You're correct of course. It was 2nd base, not short. Don't know how I got that wrong because 2nd was my position also. Time has a way of doing this to us older fogies. Anyway his demeanor reminds me of Red, and that is not a bad thing to have on the field at game time. Thanks for the backup.

Incidently, that must have been a wonderful season for you who lived in Milwaukee. Hammerin' Hank, and that solid 3B, (also whose name escapes me now), but hit about 280 with power, and Red. Then there was Sphann and Siene and pray for rain-----Gene Woodley was never the answer. That was the core of an absolutely wonderful team. You must have wonderful memories-----good for you.
Thanks for the kind words and the recall of fond memories. Eddie Matthews was the 3rd Basement. He was quite a HR hitter and is in the Hall of Fame.
 

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I remember that, after Lou Burdette succeeded Johnny Sain as Warren Spahn's 1-1a pitching partner, someone tried, "Spahn and Burdette and pray it gets wet."

No, it never caught on like "Spahn and Sain and pray for rain."

'Sort of like "Johnson and Schilling and . . ." ('Never came up with a good one.)

Joe Adcock, the player who preceded Hank Aaron as the Braves cleanup hitter behind Eddie Matthews still holds the Major League record for total bases in a game -- 18.

After hitting four homeruns in one game (as quite a few players have), Billy Joe Adcock doubled in his fifth at-bat, narrowly missing that elusive fifth homerun.
 

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I remember that, after Lou Burdette succeeded Johnny Sain as Warren Spahn's 1-1a pitching partner, someone tried, "Spahn and Burdette and pray it gets wet."

No, it never caught on like "Spahn and Sain and pray for rain."

'Sort of like "Johnson and Schilling and . . ." ('Never came up with a good one.)

Joe Adcock, the player who preceded Hank Aaron as the Braves cleanup hitter behind Eddie Matthews still holds the Major League record for total bases in a game -- 18.

After hitting four homeruns in one game (as quite a few players have), Billy Joe Adcock doubled in his fifth at-bat, narrowly missing that elusive fifth homerun.

It was against the Dodgers in Ebbets Field in Brooklyn. The next day he got "beaned" by a pitch. I'll never forget that!! No TV for games then, I listened on the radio.
 
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Per Rotoworld:

Ken Rosenthal and Jon Paul Morosi of FOX Sports.com report that the Diamondbacks have targeted the Cubs' Kerry Wood in their pursuit of relief pitching.
Although Wood might be their top choice, he would prefer to remain in Chicago, so he might not be a legitimate option. They have also discussed the Nationals’ Todd Coffey, the Mets’ Jason Isringhausen and the Blue Jays’ Jason Frasor. A starter such as Jason Marquis could also be of interest.
 
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