Trumbo won his arbitration?!?!

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Trumbo's previous positions were in the infield -- 1B and 3B. There is no room for him in the infield. However, now that Chip Hale has moved him to RF, perhaps it won't be as tedious for him as LF was. Less activity in RF and he has the arm for it.

The season before joining the D-backs, Mark had 34 HR's and 100 RBI's. Even last season, before he sustained a foot stress fracture less than a month into the season, he was tied for the NL lead in HR's and second in RBI's, as the article said.

Salaries are so obscene, I am not going to lose sleep over the arbitration decision. If Trumbo can return to his 2013 (and start of 2014) form at bat and provide better protection for Goldy than Montero did, I'm a happy camper. We could sure use his 100 RBI's.

My only disappointment was that a LH power bat was not available at the time to offset Goldy's RH bat. That turned Miggy into a cleanup hitter which went to his head and his 90 RBI's per season as a line drive hitter became history.

At this time, I support the decision to keep Trumbo's bat in the lineup. He is a good team player and provides power at a corner position despite being a marginal fielder in the OF. He won't be the first.
 
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His batting average is terrible, he got 100 rbi that year because of a wealth of opportunity, he hit like .220 that season with runners in scoring position, so despite his lofty RBI total he was actually bad at knocking in runs. He is like a running back who picks up 100 yards on 35 carries.

There is no way to hide him in the outfield either. He is the most incompetent outfielder I have ever seen. The guy has no ability to read balls off the bat.

It would be one thing if he mitigated his poor batting average by drawing walks, but he does not, his OBP is sub-replacement level.

He belongs in the AL as a platoon DH/1b. He was never suited for this league or this team. I hope they're actively looking to move him, ASAP. This is his final year before becoming a free agent and signing him to an extension would be a painful mistake.
 
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Well considering ARZ slashed payroll this offseason and just signed a new multi billion dollar television deal I'm not feeling sorry for them. I'm not paying money to attend games so its not my $$$, so pay the man Kendrick!
 

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...he got 100 rbi that year because of a wealth of opportunity.
I look at averages and percentages as much as anyone. And I appreciate good fielding.

But 100 RBI's is one hundred runners (including himself) who crossed the plate with a swing of his bat.

And "R" is the most important number on the scoreboard.

There is also the point, as I mentioned, about protection for Goldy. Trumbo is better protection than Miggy was.

For those reasons, I would not get rid of him without finding someone better, which is sort of what you said.

But I would not move him for someone not capable of driving in 100 runs, unless Yasmany Tomas turns out to be the one.
 
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I look at averages and percentages as much as anyone. And I appreciate good fielding.

But 100 RBI's is one hundred runners (including himself) who crossed the plate with a swing of his bat.

And "R" is the most important number on the scoreboard.

There is also the point, as I mentioned, about protection for Goldy. Trumbo is better protection than Miggy was.

For those reasons, I would not get rid of him without finding someone better, which is sort of what you said.

But I would not move him for someone not capable of driving in 100 runs, unless Yasmany Tomas turns out to be the one.
BC, 100 RBIs while hitting .220 with runners in scoring position is like a dude leading the league in 3 pointers made but only making them at a 20% rate. Mark Trumbo, even in that season, was terrible at knocking in runs. Yes, runs are the most important stat and the Angels would have been better served to have any number of players out there than him, he merely happened to be the fortunate guy to cash in on the legitimate ability of the guys hitting in front of him, despite that he stranded them at a nearly 80% rate.

He is a below replacement level player. He provides protection to no one because pitchers are not afraid of him, which is part of the reason he got so many opportunities to knock guys in with the Angels, HE was the guy teams picked on, he provided the opposite of protection for that team.

The Dbacks would be better with any number of guys than him. A bad hitter and an even worse fielder. I'd much rather see Incarte, Tomas (with Lamb at 3rd) or Peralta in right than suffer through more of Trumbo.

He is also the most prevalent reminder of Tower's total inability to manage his assets or judge needs.
 

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IMO, outs are The most important number in baseball. Outs keep teams from scoring Runs.

Trumbo won his arb because the DBacks made too low an offer.
 

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IMO, outs are The most important number in baseball. Outs keep teams from scoring Runs.
Not to belabor the point, but "R" on the scoreboard at the end of the game determines another "R" -- record. Which determines who gets into the post-season. Which determines the Division, League and MLB champions each season.

Outs . . . except for rain shortened or extra inning games -- all teams end games with either 24 or 27 outs, whether the score is 1-0 or 20-19.

Outs are the mean to the end. Runs are the end result.
 
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Outs, runs... whatever you prefer. The moral of the story is Trumbo gives the other team proportionally MORE extra outs and runs to work with than probably any outfielder in the league and he commits outs and strands base runners at a nearly equal unforgivable rate when he is at the dish.

He all-around blows.

And I don't blame the Dbacks for offering him a low arbitration figure, he had a season that was literally below replacement level, a seriously negative WAR stat. He is now better compensated than the average MLB player despite a season that was well below average. That ruling is a joke.
 
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