TSN's new mock - 2 rounds

[BACH]

MOCK DRAFT: ROUND 1
PICK TEAM PLAYER POS SCHOOL
1 (1) Texans Reggie Bush* RB USC
The Texans' new regime will bring a new dimension to Houston with the most versatile offensive threat to come along in years.

2 (2) Saints Matt Leinart QB USC
New head coach Sean Payton wants a cerebral pocket passer; Leinart is a proven winner with all the physical tools Payton covets.

3 (3) Titans D'Brickashaw Ferguson T Va.
The Titans' staff coached Ferguson at the Senior Bowl and believes he could be the cornerstone for rebuilding the offensive line.

4 (4) Jets A.J. Hawk OLB Ohio St.
New head coach Eric Mangini is a 3-4 disciple and needs a playmaker to install the system. Hawk is tough and smart, which Mangini likes.

5 (5) Packers Mario Williams* DE NC State
The Packers need a dominant defensive end to line up opposite Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila in Mike McCarthy's attacking scheme.

6 (6) Raiders Chad Greenway OLB Iowa
The Raiders need playmakers, and owner Al Davis loves speed. Greenway fills both requirements. (Pick subject to coin flip.)

7 (7) 49ers Jimmy Williams CB Va. Tech
The 49ers' only significant player in the secondary is Ahmed Plummer; Williams would fill a dire need. (Pick subject to coin flip.)

8 (8) Bills Haloti Ngata* DT Oregon
The Bills need a dominant run stuffer and inside penetrator to shore up their porous run defense.

9 (9) Lions Michael Huff S Texas
The Lions might have more pressing needs, but Huff if versatile and physical against the run. He can cover a lot of ground in the middle of the field.

10 (10) Cardinals Vernon Davis* TE Maryland
Davis is the best receiver in the draft. He has good hands and is fast; he would bring another dimension to an already potent passing attack.

11 (11) Rams Vince Young* QB Texas
New Rams head coach Scott Linehan oversaw the development of Daunte Culpepper as the Vikings' offensive coordinator, and he sees some common traits in Young.

12 (12) Browns DeMeco Ryans OLB Alabama
Outside linebacker is the key position in Romeo Crennel's defense. Ryans is strong against the run and can play in coverage and rush the passer.

13 (13) Ravens LenDale White* RB USC
White possesses the size and speed that the Ravens need to re-establish their physical run game.

14 (14) Eagles Mathias Kiwanuka DE Boston Coll.
Philly needs a two-way end to line up opposite Jevon Kearse. Kiwanuka has rare size, speed and athleticism.

15 (15) Falcons Tye Hill CB Clemson
The Falcons' attacking defense needs corners who can cover on an island; Hill has the speed and press cover skills to do it.

16 (16) Dolphins Jay Cutler QB Vandy
Head coach Nick Saban, who knows Cutler from his days in the SEC, believes Cutler has the talent and tools to be a starting QB.

17 (17) Vikings Laurence Maroney* RB Minnesota
Maroney would come back to Minneapolis to take command of the Vikings' running back committee.

18 (18) Cowboys Santonio Holmes* WR Ohio St.
Holmes, a playmaking deep threat who also can return kicks, would add another dimension to the Cowboys' offense.

19 (19) Chargers Winston Justice* T USC
The Chargers fired their offensive line coach, but it's really their talent on the offensive line that needs an upgrade.

20 (20) Chiefs Chad Jackson* WR Florida
The Chiefs need a receiver who can stretch the field to open running lanes for Larry Johnson and take pressure off of Tony Gonzalez.

21 (21) Patriots DeAngelo Williams RB Memphis
The Patriots have other needs, but Corey Dillon and Kevin Faulk are showing wear and Williams would be a great value here.

22 (22) Broncos Tamba Hali DE Penn State
(from Washington) The Broncos need a pass rusher to protect their secondary, and Hali is productive.

23 (23) Buccaneers Marcus McNeill T Auburn
The Bucs need a right tackle to protect QB Chris Simms' blind side.

24 (24) Bengals Nick Mangold C Ohio St.
Rich Braham is getting old, and the Bengals need a leader to help protect QB Carson Palmer after he comes back from his knee injury.

25 (25) Giants Ashton Youboty* CB Ohio St.
Tom Coughlin must upgrade the secondary, starting with the cornerbacks. Youboty is the best available here.

26 (26) Bears Max Jean-Gilles G Georgia
The Bears need a road-grader to pave the way for Thomas Jones and Cedric Benson -- and some protection for fragile QB Rex Grossman.

27 (27) Panthers Leonard Pope* TE Georgia
Kris Mangum is a nice blocker but gives the Panthers little as a receiver. Pope can be both over time.

28 (28) Jaguars Thomas Howard OLB UTEP
Head coach Jack Del Rio loves playmaking linebackers who can run.

29 (29) Broncos Darnell Bing* S USC
After the Broncos improve their pass rush, they must upgrade at safety. Bing is a playmaker with range to cover up for strong safety John Lynch.

30 (30) Colts D'Qwell Jackson ILB Maryland
Jackson, an undersized but physical LB who can run, fits the profile Tony Dunger prefers.

31 (31) Seahawks Ko Simpson* S S. Carolina
Even if free safety Marquand Manuel, a free agent, returns to the Seahawks, Simpson would be an upgrade.

32 (32) Steelers Rodrique Wright DT Texas
The Steelers' defensive line is aging; Wright can play at end or tackle in their 3-4 scheme

MOCK DRAFT: ROUND 2
PICK TEAM PLAYER POS SCHOOL
1 (33) Texans Orien Harris DT Miami (FL)
Harris would be a penetrating force in the Texans' new attacking 4-3 scheme.

2 (34) Saints Bobby Carpenter OLB Ohio St.
The Saints have been looking for a playmaking linebacker for years. Carpenter is smart, fast and physical.

3 (35) Jets Gabe Watson DT Michigan
The Jets will need a massive nose tackle to convert to a 3-4. Watson is a wide body and can occupy blockers for the linebackers.

4 (36) Packers Ernie Sims* OLB Florida St.
Sims has excellent range and would give Green Bay another playmaker next to middle linebacker Nick Barnett.

5 (37) 49ers Claude Wroten DT LSU
Now that drug-related charges against Wroten have been dismissed, he might climb up the board. He is often compared to Warren Sapp.

6 (38) Raiders Sinorice Moss WR Miami (FL)
The Niners have many needs, but a deep-threat wide receiver is a priority.

7 (39) Titans Abdul Hodge ILB Iowa
Hodge was a productive playmaker in college and would solidify the interior of the Titans' defense.

8 (40) Lions Darryl Tapp DE Va. Tech
New head coach Rod Marinelli loves having depth at defensive end and will use Tapp as a wave rusher while he develops.

9 (41) Cardinals Anwar Phillips CB Penn State
Arizona needs to upgrade the starter opposite Antrel Rolle. Phillips is smart and physical.

10 (42) Bills Eric Winston T Miami (FL)
The Bills need a solid left tackle to protect the QB, whether he's J.P. Losman or Kelly Holcomb.

11 (43) Browns Davin Joseph G Oklahoma
The Browns are trying to survive with Cosey Coleman and Joe Andruzzi at guard. It's time to bring in some young blood.

12 (44) Ravens Antonio Cromartie* CB Florida St.
If Cromartie is healthy, this would be a steal of a pick for the Ravens.

13 (45) Eagles Brodrick Bunkley DT Florida St.
Bunkley is the attacking, one-gap type of tackle the Eagles prefer. He can rush the passer and stuff the run.

14 (46) Rams Marcedes Lewis TE UCLA
The Rams will add diversity to their vertical passing game under Linehan, starting with Lewis in the deep middle.

15 (47) Falcons Kamerion Wimbley DE Florida St.
Wimbley would contribute as a wave rusher behind Patrick Kearney and Brady Smith.

16 (48) Vikings Anthony Fasano* TE Notre Dame
New head coach Brad Childress relied heavily on tight ends Chad Lewis and L.J. Smith in Philadelphia. Fasano is a blue chipper with a blue-collar attitude.

17 (49) Cowboys Donte Whitner* S Ohio St.
Whitner has great speed and range, which would free up Roy Williams to play closer to the line.

18 (50) Chargers Johnathan Joseph* CB S. Carolina
The Chargers need to upgrade their talent and depth in the secondary. Joseph has good size and excellent speed.

19 (51) Dolphins Alan Zemaitis CB Penn State
It's almost time for Sam Madison to move on; Zemaitis fits Saban's profile: sound, tough, and smart with good ball skills.

20 (52) Patriots Manny Lawson DE NC State
Lawson would play as a standup pass rusher in New England's 3-4.

21 (53) Chiefs DeMario Minter CB Georgia
Patrick Surtain is a ballhawk, but Eric Warfield is unreliable. Minter has size, speed and plenty of experience.

22 (54) Buccaneers Richard Marshall* CB Fresno St.
The Bucs need depth and must start thinking about the future; Marshall would be a talented addition behind their aging cornerbacks.

23 (55) Bengals Jonathan Lewis DT Va. Tech
Cincy can create pressure from the edge but needs a player on the interior to collapse the pocket.

24 (56) Giants Pat Watkins S Florida St.
The Giants like Gibril Wilson, but Brent Alexander, in his 12th season, is showing his age.

25 (57) Bears Derek Hagan WR Arizona St.
Hagan, polished and productive, can take pressure off Muhsin Muhammad.

26 (58) Panthers Joseph Addai RB LSU
Stephen Davis might retire, and DeShaun Foster is a free agent. Addai has the size, speed and instincts to carry the running game.

27 (59) Redskins Ray Edwards* DE Purdue
The Skins need to upgrade their D-line talent. Edwards is versatile with the size and speed to fit in a 4-3 or 3-4.

28 (60) Jaguars Stanley McClover* DE Auburn
McClover has good size and excellent speed, and the Jags need an edge rusher to complement their stud DTs.

29 (61) Broncos Jason Avant WR Michigan
The Broncos would be addressing a need here, as Rod Smith is aging and Ashley Lelie has been inconsistent.

30 (62) Colts Brian Calhoun* RB Wis.
In taking Calhoun, the Colts would be prepared for the possible loss of Edgerrin James.

31 (63) Seahawks Elvis Dumervil DE Louisville
Dumervil, one of the nation's top pass rushers last year, could contribute right away as a wave rusher behind Grant Wistrom and Bryce Fisher.

32 (64) Steelers Greg Lee* WR Pitt
Lee is polished and is climbing the boards.

 

[BACH]

Pretty realistic IMO, eventhough I would hate Davis at #10. (Probably a result of Bergen is very underrated by the national media.)

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Doubtful we let Young slip by us.

 

[seesred]

Depending how FA goes we will not pass on Young or A RB (White) if needed.

GBR
40

 

[CorporalCardinal]

I doubt we take Davis at ten, Bergen has shown some solid potential with a very small pricetag. Plus we have more glaring needs, particularly our running game and ability to stop the run, that I think would be addressed instead. Though I wouldn't mind seeing a strong, talented corner added to the mix with Rolle, Macklin, Green and Tate.

 

[kerouac9]

Pretty realistic IMO, eventhough I would hate Davis at #10. (Probably a result of Bergen is very underrated by the national media.)

The ceilings for Adam Bergen and Vernon Davis aren't even comperable. V. Davis will come into training camp 5 times better than Adam Bergen would ever hope to be, not only as a receiver, but as a blocker as well.

I just don't imagine 2 OLBs going in the Top 10 picks of the draft.

 

[BACH]

The ceilings for Adam Bergen and Vernon Davis aren't even comperable. V. Davis will come into training camp 5 times better than Adam Bergen would ever hope to be, not only as a receiver, but as a blocker as well.

I just don't imagine 2 OLBs going in the Top 10 picks of the draft.

Hey, no doubt that Davis has more talent than Bergen.

That I meant was that the national media overlooks Bergen as an option as a starter and by default think that TE is a huge need.

 

[CorporalCardinal]

The ceilings for Adam Bergen and Vernon Davis aren't even comperable. V. Davis will come into training camp 5 times better than Adam Bergen would ever hope to be, not only as a receiver, but as a blocker as well.

I just don't imagine 2 OLBs going in the Top 10 picks of the draft.

Davis has more talent, we all get that, but our passing offense is not the big question mark here...the question that we need, nevermind MUST address is our rushing game and our ability to stop. We fix that, we get in the playoffs.

 

[kerouac9]

That I meant was that the national media overlooks Bergen as an option as a starter and by default think that TE is a huge need.

I think that TE/H-Back is the "free safety" of offense: the most important weapon of the 21st Century. The fact that the Cardinals probably have the least-talented starting TE in the NFL is probably a reason why sportswriters think that we'd want one that has the potential to be the best TE in the NFL and redefine the position for the new millennium.

But it could also be that he's underexposed, I guess. I mean, he has those 28 receptions on his highlight reel, and that 1 TD. And that unforgivable drop in San Francisco.

After the Combine, I think that those of you who haven't seen Davis play are going to understand that getting him isn't a "need" pick, it's picking up one of the best prospects at his position that's come out in maybe a decade. It's not that the Cardinals need a tight end, it's that Davis is going to be that good.

The Cardinals stunk in the red zone last season both passing and rushing. Teams will start triple-teaming Fitz on the fade route, and then there's nothing else. Sportswriters understand that it's scoring that's been a problem for the Cardinals, and Davis is going to be one of the best red-zone threats in the NFL for a long, long time.

 

[Redsz]

A CB in the second round? Excuse me while I go throw up.

 

[SuperSpck]

Depending on where we go in the draft in the first round, I'd be happier seeing someone like Abdul Hodge there.

 

[BACH]

But it could also be that he's underexposed, I guess. I mean, he has those 28 receptions on his highlight reel, and that 1 TD. And that unforgivable drop in San Francisco.

Ahh, come on, K9. That's a terrible argumentation and you know it.

I know about football, and you know that TE is one of the positions where the players take the longest to develop. It's not fair to judge a TE by his rookie numbers. But, if you insist then let's take look at some 31 TEs that you think is better than Bergen. Hey! Let's look at rookie seasons by the top 10 TEs this season:

Tony Gonzalez - 33 reps - 368 yards - 2 TDs
Antonio Gates - 24 reps - 389 yards - 2 TDs
Jason Witten - 35 reps - 347 yards - 1 TD
Alge Crumpler - 25 reps - 330 yards - 3 TDs
Todd Heap - 16 reps - 206 yards - 1 TD
Chris Cooley - 37 reps - 314 yards - 6TDs
Jermaine Wiggins - 18 reps - 207 yards - 2 TDs
Jeramy Shockey - 74 reps - 894 yards - 2 TDs
L.J.Smith - 27 reps - 321 yards - 1 TD
Randy McMichael - 39 reps - 485 yards - 4 TDs

As you can see Bergen's numbers they are pretty much on par with everybody else (expect Shockey) and let's not forget that Bergen developed throughout the season. In fact he only had 8 reception in the first half of the season while having the remaining 20 in the 2nd half of the season.

Again, I don't dispute that Davis has more potential than Bergen, but judging Bergen by his rookie numbers is weak!

With the development he showed this season I truly believe that Bergen can develop into solid starter with averaging 50 receptions and 5 TDs a season.

 

[spanky1]

Ahh, come on, K9. That's a terrible argumentation and you know it.

I know about football, and you know that TE is one of the positions where the players take the longest to develop. It's not fair to judge a TE by his rookie numbers. But, if you insist then let's take look at some 31 TEs that you think is better than Bergen. Hey! Let's look at rookie seasons by the top 10 TEs this season:

Tony Gonzalez - 33 reps - 368 yards - 2 TDs
Antonio Gates - 24 reps - 389 yards - 2 TDs
Jason Witten - 35 reps - 347 yards - 1 TD
Alge Crumpler - 25 reps - 330 yards - 3 TDs
Todd Heap - 16 reps - 206 yards - 1 TD
Chris Cooley - 37 reps - 314 yards - 6TDs
Jermaine Wiggins - 18 reps - 207 yards - 2 TDs
Jeramy Shockey - 74 reps - 894 yards - 2 TDs
L.J.Smith - 27 reps - 321 yards - 1 TD
Randy McMichael - 39 reps - 485 yards - 4 TDs

As you can see Bergen's numbers they are pretty much on par with everybody else (expect Shockey) and let's not forget that Bergen developed throughout the season. In fact he only had 8 reception in the first half of the season while having the remaining 20 in the 2nd half of the season.

Again, I don't dispute that Davis has more potential than Bergen, but judging Bergen by his rookie numbers is weak!

With the development he showed this season I truly believe that Bergen can develop into solid starter with averaging 50 receptions and 5 TDs a season.

Superb rebuttal.....and backed up nicely with solid research........k9 will still come back with a "but those numbers do not tell the whole story"......just wait.

 

[kerouac9]

Maybe, Bach, but I don't think all those guys were starters as rookies, either. I know that Gates and Crumpler were playing behind people. And even then, where the TE is most important--the red zone--Bergen came up well short.

Saying that Bergen put up similar stats to a bunch of 1st round picks and saying that their long-term potentials are even comperable is such ridiculous reasoning that it defies response. What makes you think that Bergen and his 1 TD could suddenly produce 5? He was a total non-factor in the red zone last season--besides his clutch drop. That's where TEs earn their keep.

"TEs take the longest to develop"? Are you kidding me? Maybe back when Tony Gonzalez started playing in the late 90s, but not anymore. Antonio Gates had 80+ receptions and 10+ TDs his second season. Alge Crumpler had 5 TDs in his sophomore effort. Jason Witten had 80+ receptions and 6 TDs his second year. Chris Cooley doubled his production in receptions and yards.

But all those guys started out as red-zone threats and then became weapons between the 20s once their QBs could trust them in the money zone. I don't think it often happens the other way. Bergen couldn't get it done in the red zone as a rookie. That's all instincts. Guys don't just become money inside the red zone.

Even then, hoping that your undrafted free agent can suddenly become a 50/800/5 guy isn't a reason to pass on a potential Hall of Fame prospect at the same position.

 

[Krangodnzr]

Ahh, come on, K9. That's a terrible argumentation and you know it.

I know about football, and you know that TE is one of the positions where the players take the longest to develop. It's not fair to judge a TE by his rookie numbers. But, if you insist then let's take look at some 31 TEs that you think is better than Bergen. Hey! Let's look at rookie seasons by the top 10 TEs this season:

Tony Gonzalez - 33 reps - 368 yards - 2 TDs
Antonio Gates - 24 reps - 389 yards - 2 TDs
Jason Witten - 35 reps - 347 yards - 1 TD
Alge Crumpler - 25 reps - 330 yards - 3 TDs
Todd Heap - 16 reps - 206 yards - 1 TD
Chris Cooley - 37 reps - 314 yards - 6TDs
Jermaine Wiggins - 18 reps - 207 yards - 2 TDs
Jeramy Shockey - 74 reps - 894 yards - 2 TDs
L.J.Smith - 27 reps - 321 yards - 1 TD
Randy McMichael - 39 reps - 485 yards - 4 TDs

As you can see Bergen's numbers they are pretty much on par with everybody else (expect Shockey) and let's not forget that Bergen developed throughout the season. In fact he only had 8 reception in the first half of the season while having the remaining 20 in the 2nd half of the season.

Again, I don't dispute that Davis has more potential than Bergen, but judging Bergen by his rookie numbers is weak!

With the development he showed this season I truly believe that Bergen can develop into solid starter with averaging 50 receptions and 5 TDs a season.

Another question.... How many of these tight ends were 1st rounders?

Tony Gonzalez
Todd Heap
Jeramy Shockey

And tight end isn't the explosive threat that many make it out to be. Sure it's nice to have a top flight tight end, but it's better to have a top flight QB, RB, DE, LT, WR, CB....Basically tight end is a position to be addressed AFTER round 1 IMO.

I love when people (no offense Kerouac) try to say so and so will redefine a position or is the best player to come out in 10 years at a certain position. It's just hype until it's proven on the field.

 

[kerouac9]

I love when people (no offense Kerouac) try to say so and so will redefine a position or is the best player to come out in 10 years at a certain position. It's just hype until it's proven on the field.

I'm just defining the prospect. Do you think that New York regrets taking Shockey in the first? It'd also be different to look at the first day/second day differences. I know that Witten, Heap, Crumpler, Franks, Smith, and Gonzalez were all first-day guys. In fact, I think they all went in the first two rounds. None of them were as good blocking coming out as Davis is, either.

 

[spanky1]

Every year, there is a TE who will "reinvent the position for the next ten years".

This year's flavor is called Vernon Davis, who was an afterthought to Mercedes Lewis and Leonard Pope until the college season hit the mid point of their schedule.

At least people were talking about Kellen Winslow when he was a sophmore.

He might end up to be a good one.....but I for one "am from Missouri" until he shows something in the NFL.

And contrary to k9's comment, while he does have nice hands and good speed, he is still undersized compared to the "prototype" and is not an all world blocker.

 

[BACH]

Maybe, Bach, but I don't think all those guys were starters as rookies, either. I know that Gates and Crumpler were playing behind people. And even then, where the TE is most important--the red zone--Bergen came up well short.

And Bergen wasn't? Bergen started the season as the starter because of Edward's injury, but then lost it to Edwards before winning it again. nfl.com reports that both Edwards and Bergen started 9 games, which can't be right, but even if BErgen started most of those games he would at a maximum only have started 9 games. Crumpler started 13 games as a rookie BTW.

Saying that Bergen put up similar stats to a bunch of 1st round picks and saying that their long-term potentials are even comperable is such ridiculous reasoning that it defies response. What makes you think that Bergen and his 1 TD could suddenly produce 5? He was a total non-factor in the red zone last season--besides his clutch drop. That's where TEs earn their keep

Hey! You're the one that wanted to compare numbers - not me. AND FOR THE 3RD TIME!!!!! I'm NOT questioning that Davis has more potential than Bergen. I'm saying I believe that if Bergen continues his development he'll be good enough to be a solid starter at TE on this team.

"TEs take the longest to develop"? Are you kidding me? Maybe back when Tony Gonzalez started playing in the late 90s, but not anymore. Antonio Gates had 80+ receptions and 10+ TDs his second season. Alge Crumpler had 5 TDs in his sophomore effort. Jason Witten had 80+ receptions and 6 TDs his second year. Chris Cooley doubled his production in receptions and yards.

Just look at the numbers... Like WR it's usually takes three years before a TE has fully adjusted the the NFL.

But all those guys started out as red-zone threats and then became weapons between the 20s once their QBs could trust them in the money zone. I don't think it often happens the other way. Bergen couldn't get it done in the red zone as a rookie. That's all instincts. Guys don't just become money inside the red zone.

What???
So Gates didn't set a record for most TD in a season by a TE? And Heap didn't go from 1 TD as a rookie to scoring 7 this season?

Even then, hoping that your undrafted free agent can suddenly become a 50/800/5 guy isn't a reason to pass on a potential Hall of Fame prospect at the same position.

Yep, being an undrafted TE 100% garantees that a player won't develop into an elite TE. Genius! Where were you in august? Your advise could have saved the Chargers that $22M extension to Gates.

 

[az jam]

No way would the Cards pass on Young and White.

 

[Chainthroer]

To renumerate, the quote by TSN: "Davis is the best receiver in the draft. He has good hands and is fast; he would bring another dimension to an already potent passing attack."
In the TSN mock, I do not really see anyone else that warrants a #10 pick. Davis would be a bigtime pick and we need bigtime help in the red zone. Denny goes with the BPA, so Davis may well be the candidate.
Young would not be an instant answer for Denny to win - would take time for him to develop. Either Omar Jacobs or possibly Gradkowski could fill the QB need with a 3rd round pick (if Omar lasts to the 3rd).
Lendell is a stretch here (JMO). By the way, does anyone know if Troy Hambrick is playing somewhere?
Also, I'd trade up to get Gabe Watson, if he's there in the top of the 2nd.

 

[Krangodnzr]

To renumerate, the quote by TSN: "Davis is the best receiver in the draft. He has good hands and is fast; he would bring another dimension to an already potent passing attack."

We don't need "another dimension to an already potent passing attack" as much as we need a QBOF, RB, OL, DL, CB, FS etc.

And a tightend NEVER has the same impact that a stud RB/stud QB has. IF someone can prove that I'll go AWOL and come back to the states and be your personal slave (formerly the b word) .

In the TSN mock, I do not really see anyone else that warrants a #10 pick. Davis would be a bigtime pick and we need bigtime help in the red zone. Denny goes with the BPA, so Davis may well be the candidate.

Tight end has generally be and afterthought in previous Green offenses. Green has generally not had a bigtime tightend. Kleinsasser was the best tightend he had during his Minn. days, and he's hardly a Gates.

Young would not be an instant answer for Denny to win - would take time for him to develop. Either Omar Jacobs or possibly Gradkowski could fill the QB need with a 3rd round pick (if Omar lasts to the 3rd).

Neither was Culpepper (though Denny was already a credible winner when he drafted him). Green was criticized for taking Culpepper until Culpepper proved it on the field. Young has a much higher ceiling than other prospect if he is available at #10. I like Jacobs too, but he hasn't done what Young has.

Lendell is a stretch here (JMO). By the way, does anyone know if Troy Hambrick is playing somewhere?
Also, I'd trade up to get Gabe Watson, if he's there in the top of the 2nd.

LenDale being compared to Troy Hambrick? Laughable. Hambrick was undrafted, and had been kicked off his team at the real USC (South Carolina). He did have talent, but he is a Hambrick, which means that like his brother Darren, he has character issues as well. Also, he never was a key cog on multiple championship teams either.

Watson would be a good pickup, but he does have issues, and I don't know if he's worth the gamble of trading up to get.

 

[Redsz]

Tight end has generally be and afterthought in previous Green offenses. Green has generally not had a bigtime tightend. Kleinsasser was the best tightend he had during his Minn. days, and he's hardly a Gates.

Thank god I'm not the only one who see's this. Considering the limited role of the TE in this offense I find it very hard to see a first used on a TE.

We need a TE who is a good blocker and solid pass catcher/outlet reciever. Not a superstar. Personally, I think Bergen and or Edwards can do that. But that's just me.

 

[PHXSportsFan4]

A) how is Vince Young going to last that long, and B) why wouldn't we take him?

Sure we have Warner now, but hes on the last part of his career and McClown is never going to be a QB that will ever play for a winning team... If he lasts that long I see no reason why we wouldn't take him...

 

[PHXSportsFan4]

No way would the Cards pass on Young and White.

I agree.

 

[john h]

Pretty realistic IMO, eventhough I would hate Davis at #10. (Probably a result of Bergen is very underrated by the national media.)

Drafting a receiver would be a totally idiotic move. What could this writer be thinking? We have perhaps the best top to bottom receiving corps in the NFL and the worst running games in the NFL. So we cure our problems by drafting a receiver (Duh!). What do we do? Sit Boldin or Fitz?I cannot believe this organization is so dumb as to draft a receiver and I could care less if some consider him BPA. I am just going to write this off as a case of an uninformed writer.