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How can you wipe the slate clean of DA's bad years and not include that in the evaluation?

Different team, different coaches, different system just an overall different set of circumstances. Sounds smart to judge off what you see in front of you now then what you saw before.

Even when that was all they had to go on they still wanted him.
 

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How can you wipe the slate clean of DA's bad years and not include that in the evaluation?

A) Because you have to.

B) Because you can do better.

C) Because this system is different, the weather is different, the division is different and the defense is different.

D) Because you have to.
 

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It's not how you start out in life, NFL career, whatever, it's how you end up that counts. I don't care what Derek has done in the past, it's what he does next Sunday and the games afterward that count.
 

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A) Because you have to.

B) Because you can do better.

C) Because this system is different, the weather is different, the division is different and the defense is different.

D) Because you have to.

Because things became so bad with Matt that Daffy Duck could have been signed instead of DA and would be the starting QB. Team had no choice and Max Hall is sure licking his chops about now.
 

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It's not how you start out in life, NFL career, whatever, it's how you end up that counts. I don't care what Derek has done in the past, it's what he does next Sunday and the games afterward that count.

Because he's good enough, he's smart enough and gosh darnit people like him. :D
 

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A) Because you have to.

B) Because you can do better.

C) Because this system is different, the weather is different, the division is different and the defense is different.

D) Because you have to.

Because otherwise we have no hope and are looking at yet another 5-11 season.
 

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Different team, different coaches, different system just an overall different set of circumstances. Sounds smart to judge off what you see in front of you now then what you saw before.

Even when that was all they had to go on they still wanted him.

I'm a Cardinals fan regardless of who's at QB, I just think Whis used his 2007 stats to sign him and disregarded the rest of his career when evaluating camp and cutting Matty is short of a complete evaluation.
 
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I'm a Cardinals fan regardless of who's at QB, I just think Whis used his 2007 stats to sign him and disregarded the rest of his career when evaluating camp and cutting Matty

I was a Cardinal fan in 2000. Didn't keep them from going 3-13. And forget Shane. He has no creditability whatsoever. His favorite baseball team hasn't won a World Series in over 100 years.

:p
 

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The Cards are going from one of the most accurate passers to the worst, even worse than Vince Young :shock:, accurate passer in the NFL. I think it's going to be a long year.
 

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You have to remember, DA was royally shafted in Cleveland. He leads a perennial loser to the playoffs and makes the pro bowl, and is rewarded by an ignorant organization drafting an overrated kid from Notre Dame mainly because he was born in Ohio.

A fresh start could do him good.
 

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You have to remember, DA was royally shafted in Cleveland. He leads a perennial loser to the playoffs and makes the pro bowl, and is rewarded by an ignorant organization drafting an overrated kid from Notre Dame mainly because he was born in Ohio.

A fresh start could do him good.

and Matty was royally shafted here!
 

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The Cards are going from one of the most accurate passers to the worst, even worse than Vince Young :shock:, accurate passer in the NFL. I think it's going to be a long year.

Anderson in 2007 (his only full season as a starter): 3,787 yards, 29 TD passes (with 19 interceptions)

Warner in 2009: 3,753 yards, 26 TD passes (with 14 interceptions)

Both seasons are similar statistically and resulted in 10-6 records.

I'm excited to see what Anderson can do with the offensive weapons we have here.

Let him succeed or fail on the field. Why the rush to say he's gonna suck? :shrug:
 

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I disagree, Whis had a plan from the gate and misled Matty into thinkin otherwise. How would you handle that?

Matt should have been dealt long agowhen he had some value). Especially once it was clear Warner was the QB for the immediate future. Leinart was never going to be the QB for CKW.
 

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Anderson in 2007 (his only full season as a starter): 3,787 yards, 29 TD passes (with 19 interceptions)

Warner in 2009: 3,753 yards, 26 TD passes (with 14 interceptions)

Both seasons are similar statistically and resulted in 10-6 records.

I'm excited to see what Anderson can do with the offensive weapons we have here.

Let him succeed or fail on the field. Why the rush to say he's gonna suck? :shrug:

No rush at all but 3 TD 10 INT and a rating of 42.1 in his last seven starts is downright scary.
 

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No rush at all but 3 TD 10 INT and a rating of 42.1 in his last seven starts is downright scary.

The team went 3-4 in those games including an OT loss to the Bengals. So as bad as he played, the team didn't go 0-7.

That was there/then and this is here/now.

Let's see how he does.

BTW: He's won two straight, including a game with a rating of 90.6. :thumbup:
 
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