USC basketball self imposes probation over Mayo

[Russ Smith]

http://www.usctrojans.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/010310aah.html

Kind of intriguing, one year ban on postseason, this year. 2 years losing one scholarship again starts this year(when they don't have a full roster kind of silly). Reduced recruiting both in number of coaches recruiting and time allowed over the year(reduced by 20 days). They name Mayo and Guillory by name as the primary problem, and very clearly state this is basketball only.

Clearly an attempt to get leniency from the NCAA and hope to spare football as had been talked about for awhile now.

So as of right now the best team in the Pac 10(8 wins in a row) is ineligible for the postseason.

Forgot, tehy forfeited all games Mayo played in.

 

[overseascardfan]

http://www.usctrojans.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/010310aah.html

Kind of intriguing, one year ban on postseason, this year. 2 years losing one scholarship again starts this year(when they don't have a full roster kind of silly). Reduced recruiting both in number of coaches recruiting and time allowed over the year(reduced by 20 days). They name Mayo and Guillory by name as the primary problem, and very clearly state this is basketball only.

Clearly an attempt to get leniency from the NCAA and hope to spare football as had been talked about for awhile now.

So as of right now the best team in the Pac 10(8 wins in a row) is ineligible for the postseason.

Forgot, tehy forfeited all games Mayo played in.

Very intriguing as they are a legit threat for the Pac-10 title. This is not going to wipe the Mcknight slate clean, hell the NCAA probably would have let the investigation drag on for a couple of more years.

 

[Russ Smith]

Very intriguing as they are a legit threat for the Pac-10 title. This is not going to wipe the Mcknight slate clean, hell the NCAA probably would have let the investigation drag on for a couple of more years.

My take is I don't feel sorry for the kids there because most of them went there knowing this was possible. They start 3 transfers, Stepheson, Gerrity and Johnson who all picked USC knowing the allegations against Mayo and Guillory, so claiming the kids are shocked(as O'Neill did) is kind of unconvincing to me.

Derozan admitted it before last season he considered not going to USC because of fear of sanctions. Evan Smith was ripping Derrick Williams and Solomon Hill and Momo Jones for not sticking with USC and going to UA, maybe now he gets why? And he wouldn't have a scholarship if all those guys had stayed.

the reality is if you do the crime you have to do the time. The sad thing is Mayo gets off free and clear and Floyd is working in the NBA.

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

Like at every stop, I'm assuming this will be the straw that breaks the back of KO's sanity. He'll burn every bridge in Heritage Hall in the next two years after getting screwed out of the NCAA's by Mike Garrett trying to salvage his football program.

 

[Russ Smith]

Mayo is seriously a piece of garbage. http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=4804325

He is STILL denying he did anything. There have now been 2 separate organizations that investigated the Louis Johnson claims and concluded Mayo took money. The NBA Players union looked and suspended Mayo's original agent Calvin Andrews one year because he violated NBA agent rules when he paid Mayo(through Guillory). Now USC puts themselves on probation. The NCAA will have access to the same information the NBA and USC did so obviously the NCAA will find violations as well.

But Mayo's new agent, his THIRD since he joined the NBA, is claiming Mayo took no money? If you read it carefully he only denies taking money in connection with USC, either recruiting inducements or while he was at USC. But Mayo is refusing to publicly comment and the agent said USC "did what they had to do" in other words his answer to if you did nothing wrong why did USC put themselves on probation is that was their choice?

The entire team is banned from postseason, several of those guys played with Mayo. He can't give them that back but the least he could do is finally man up and admit he did it rather than now trying to blame Guillory for the whole thing while denying there is a whole thing to blame?

I also don't get Tim Floyd in all this. He says he left USC because the wouldn't let him defend himself. Then all he did was say I never paid Guillory, and left it at that? So now he's hanging in the wind looking like the guy who ran the dirty program at USC, Mayo is refusing comment, Garrett is blaming Floyd and Floyd hasn't said a damn thing to defend himself? I know he was breaking the rules but at some point you'd think he too would come out and spill the beans on Mayo because right now he's taking a lot more flack than OJ is.

 

[Gaddabout]

Maybe the Pac-10 should've just taken post-season sick leave this year for revenue sports.

 

[Dback Jon]

Pac 10: Good thing they have an auto-bid.

 

[Dback Jon]

Pac 10 rundown:

Oregon: Best OOC win: Colorado State
UCLA: Best OOC win: Colorado State
Wazzou: Best OOC win: Lousiana State
Washington: Best OOC win: Montana
California: Best OOC win: Iowa State
Arizona: Best OOC win: NC State
Stanford: Best OOC win: Virginia
ASU: Best OOC win: Lousiana State
Oregon State: Best OOC win: Colorado


Arizona has the best OOC win in the conference.

 

[Russ Smith]

USC is in serious trouble on this now the LA Times has uncovered evidence tying the same guy who had the SUV for McKNight to OJ Mayo. He registered a 92 Miata with a vanity plate OJMAYO, and paid for a custom paint and interior job out of one of his businesses. Mayo's agent denies OJ even knows the guy(Steve Schenter) but the guy also paid to register the domain name ojaymayo.com(sp) and it turns out he also registered the domain USCmarketing.com.

When the Times asked SChenter he actually claimed it stands for US-China marketing and had nothing to do with USC or college sports! Schenter's lawyer is now refusing any comment and says Schenter will not speak to the media anymore.

Same article Mayo's new agent says neither USC nor the NCAA has asked to talk to him since August when the agent was hired. Both USC and NCAA quoted in the article that they indeed tried to talk to Mayo and were unable to get him to do so. NCAA says some parties were "uncooperative".

Mayo's younger brother Todd has been notified by the NCAA his amateur status is in jeopardy because OJ used Guillory's credit card to fly his brother to and from USC twice in 07. He's still in HS but currently would not be cleared for NCAA eligibility.

So they not only have Bush and Mayo they have this guy tied to McKnight and now apparently Mayo over now a 3 year period. There's no way they can get around the Lack of Institutional Control now.

I'd already heard they weren't going to retain the basketball assistant coaches and you'd have to assume now Garrett's job as AD is in jeopardy. I think they'll find a way to keep Carroll, plead he had no idea what was going on, but even that is unclear.

 

[Russ Smith]

Pac 10 rundown:

Oregon: Best OOC win: Colorado State
UCLA: Best OOC win: Colorado State
Wazzou: Best OOC win: Lousiana State
Washington: Best OOC win: Montana
California: Best OOC win: Iowa State
Arizona: Best OOC win: NC State
Stanford: Best OOC win: Virginia
ASU: Best OOC win: Lousiana State
Oregon State: Best OOC win: Colorado


Arizona has the best OOC win in the conference.

Yep USC has better wins but of course no postseason. Right now I think UW and Cal are the only sure things and if Cal doesn't turn it up that might not be true. Oregon started out will in conference so we'll see how that holds up.

Right now I think 3 is probably the most the conference can get in bids.

 

[Dback Jon]

Yep USC has better wins but of course no postseason. Right now I think UW and Cal are the only sure things and if Cal doesn't turn it up that might not be true. Oregon started out will in conference so we'll see how that holds up.

Right now I think 3 is probably the most the conference can get in bids.

It is bad how few wins the Pac 10 have over other "BCS" conferences.

 

[Russ Smith]

It is bad how few wins the Pac 10 have over other "BCS" conferences.

Well what would really kill the Pac 10 is if any of the possible NCAA teams lose to Oregon State. OSU lost to D2 Seattle last night, by over 40 points! anybody losing to OSU is going to have a huge blemish on their record for the rest of the year now.

Amazing how last year Craig Robinson was the darling of new coaches and now his team has at least 3 HORRIBLE OOC losses.

 

[Dback Jon]

Seattle is D-I now - in their second year

 

[Southpaw]

In light of Carroll leaving the FB program, maybe they came to the conclusion that self imposing ban on BB is not enough to save the FB from sanctions. How does Mike Garrett keep his job after both programs get sanctions?

 

[Russ Smith]

In light of Carroll leaving the FB program, maybe they came to the conclusion that self imposing ban on BB is not enough to save the FB from sanctions. How does Mike Garrett keep his job after both programs get sanctions?

All sorts of rumors but the NCAA has finished their investigation and USC has had the list of allegations for awhile now. The assumption is seeing that, coupled with the problems with McKnight persuaded them to take the hit on basketball hoping for leniency. All they have now is the list of allegations, NOT the suggestion for sanctions.

Supposedly last week Carroll went to Garrett and said I have an offer from Seattle, and Garrett told him "you should take it." So the feeling is they knew the NCAA was probably going to hit football too and it would be in USC's best interests to have a new coach so there wouldn't be a huge push to fire Carroll to show the NCAA they were trying to clean up. Most think Garrett will be gone shortly probably the old involuntary resignation route.

I looked at a USC board earlier and of the top 6 football commits on that board, 5 were reconsidering and one was still confirmed to USC. Barkley has confirmed he'll stay but they've lost 2 underclassmen to the NFL(McKnight and Damian Williams) already and rumor has a couple more probably gone.

 

[Southpaw]

Does it ever end with this school?

Updated: January 11, 2010, 9:14 PM ET
Report: Watson claims drug addiction

Associated Press

A former Southern California assistant football coach stated in legal documents that he received prescriptions from team and university doctors he used to feed his addiction to painkillers, SI.com reported Monday.

The Web site reported Dave Watson said in a deposition that he told then-Trojans coach Pete Carroll of his addiction in February 2008, but was allowed to keep his job and use a vehicle provided by USC.

Watson was involved in a car accident in May 2008, in which he pleaded no contest to DUI charges and received three years' probation, SI.com reported. The driver of the car Watson hit is now suing Watson and USC.

In the three months between Watson's alleged discussion with Carroll and the crash, Watson was prescribed 1,680 tablets of pain medication, SI.com reported, citing the deposition.

Carroll fired Watson eight months after the accident, saying the defensive line coach was too hard on players, SI.com reported.

Watson said under oath he had developed a significant addiction to painkillers after sustaining a serious knee injury while playing for the University of Minnesota.

Accoring to SI.com, a hearing is scheduled for Jan. 26 in a Los Angeles courtroom to address Carroll's pending deposition in the civil case.


Copyright 2010 by The Associated Press

 

[Russ Smith]

Based on the timing the NCAA didn't know about this when they issued their findings so this just goes as an additonal example of lack of control to add on.

And people actually believe(USC fans) that Carroll isn't leaving to avoid the consequences?