Vazquez on the verge of being traded to White Sox for Garland??

[Diamondback Jay]

According to the New York Daily News

Javier Vazquez, who has piqued the Mets' interest, may be on the verge of getting shipped to the Windy City. A baseball insider suggested the White Sox are the most likely destination for the Diamondbacks pitcher, possibly leading to a trade involving Jon Garland (a free agent after the 2006 season) or Jose Contreras.

Thoughts?

 

[The Commish]

I would much rather have Garland due to his age. I remember the DBacks tried to get him last year but didn't succeed. I would only want him if he was able to sign an extension with us. I doubt that too many good prospects would be coming our way in this deal considering Javy's contract.

 

[coyoteshockeyfan]

It better not be for Contreras.


As a side note, Byrnes in today's Tribune said that a deal was close, that it was pretty much just a matter of picking the best deal from the ones they have already recieved. The Diamondbacks finally were able to speak with the Astros about a trade, and the Mets and Nats are still in the running.

 

[Dback Jon]

Garland would be nice - but no way Jose.

 

[Diamondback Jay]

Garland would be nice - but no way Jose.

Only way I'd be interested in Contreras is if Arizona gets several Major League ready prospects with him.

Garland, Webb, Hasley, Vargas, Nippert and Ortiz? I can live with that.

 

[The Commish]

To be honest, I don't think Contreras will be in this deal. It would go against everything that Byrnes has done and said over the past couple of weeks.

I agree though Snake, if for some reason we do get Jose in this deal it will involve really good prospects coming to us. There is no way Byrnes would take on his salary if it didn't involve solid pitching prospects.

Nonetheless I would still like Garland. Once this deal gets done, I think it will have a domino effect for other deals across the league. I just want it to get done and move on.

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

The thing about Garland is he's a year away from free agency and is going to want ten figures annually and I'm not sure he's worth that. For all of Contreras' past failures, he had a outstanding 2005 and has the stuff to be a #1 starter. I like Garland's upside, but trading Javy for a guy we may only potentially have for one year while we are in the midst of rebuilding worries me.

 

[Mulli]

This is from the Chicago Tribune 12/9. Might be where this rumor came fromALLAS -- The White Sox inquired briefly last month about Arizona pitcher Javier Vazquez but seem destined to keep their current rotation intact heading into spring training.

That includes 18-game winner Jon Garland, who appears likely to receive a considerable raise from his $3.4 million salary in 2005 and more after next season if he can repeat his performance in 2006.

"Jon is one more year away from free agency," agent Craig Landis said at the annual winter meetings. "We'll consider a multiyear contract if they make a fair offer. Right now, you see how attractive the market is for pitching."

Garland, 26, has pitched 217 innings or more over the last two seasons and hasn't had any arm problems. His value could go up if Toronto's recent signing of A.J. Burnett to a five-year, $55 million contract is any indication.

 

[Kolo]

From FoxSports' Ken Rosenthal (who is more reliable than most, I seem to think for some reason):

White Sox could deal Garland for Vazquez

Ken Rosenthal / FOXSports.com
Posted: 5 minutes ago

The White Sox are making a "strong, under the radar" bid to trade for Diamondbacks right-hander Javier Vazquez, according to a source with knowledge of the negotiations.

The package of players the Diamondbacks would receive is still in negotiation, but right-hander Jon Garland is high on Arizona's wish list, a second source said. It is not clear whether the White Sox would trade Garland.
The Diamondbacks also need a center fielder, and Chris Young, who played for the White Sox at Class AA last season, has been part of the discussions.

The Mets also are pursuing Vazquez, offering a package that likely would start with right-hander Kris Benson.

The Nationals' bid for Vazquez stalled when they traded one of the Diamondbacks' desired chips, outfielder Brad Wilkerson, to the Rangers for second baseman Alfonso Soriano.

Garland, 26, is a free agent at the end of next season, and given the inflation in the market, he figures to command a whopping contract.

He produced 18 regular-season wins and two postseason victories last season. He also has averaged more than 200 innings in four full seasons as a starter.

Vazquez, 29, will earn $11.5 million in 2006 and $12.5 million in '07, but the Diamondbacks received money when they acquired him from the Yankees, reducing their obligation by $3 million per season.

One sticking point in the trade negotiations has been the Diamondbacks' insistence that Vazquez's new team pay his entire salary, enabling the D-Backs to keep the Yankees' money.

The teams that want Vazquez would be more willing to part with better talent if they were paying him reduced salaries of $8.5 million and $9.5 million over the next two seasons.

 

[Arizona's Finest]

I'm not too sure about this trade....Can anyone say Joe Mays?????

He has one good season and as i stated in another thread...you have to look over a three year span when getting a picture of what an acquisition will be. Also from what i remember he does not have over powering stuff and even though he won alot last year, i remember thinking it was White Sox defense that saved so many runs for him...

Personally i would rather have a couple high level prospects....

 

[boondockdrunk]

Think of how many teams would want pitching when the trading deadline comes. We can get a little more than his real value if we unload him then. I think alot of people would be happy to trade for Garland then and we will not have to worry about re-signing him.

 

[HooverDam]

Also from what i remember he does not have over powering stuff and even though he won alot last year, i remember thinking it was White Sox defense that saved so many runs for him...

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I dont watch the AL too often, but if recall correctly, Garland is similiar to Webb in a way. Not an over powering pitcher, but he uses a sinking fastball to get a lot of guys out. So when you have a sinker type pitcher, you are going to get a lot of ground balls hit, so youll need a good defense.

 

[Mulli]

I dont watch the AL too often, but if recall correctly, Garland is similiar to Webb in a way. Not an over powering pitcher, but he uses a sinking fastball to get a lot of guys out. So when you have a sinker type pitcher, you are going to get a lot of ground balls hit, so youll need a good defense.

Garland looked pretty solid in the playoffs last year for sure.

 

[KingLouieLouie]

I must applaud Byrnes still for his patience for not dealing Vazquez for the sake of just compromising to his demands (similar to what the previous regime did with the likes of Schilling and Johnson) and not really get anything of long-term value in return.....

Garland is still young at 26 and can become a definitive #1 starter.... if throughout the season the Dbacks havent been able to extend him to a multi-year contract, then there could be many suitors who would be willing to part with some of their better prospects to acquire Garland's services.... (didnt notice that boondockdrunk aptly pointed this out earlier in the thread)

I still believe the best case scenario would be for Vazquez to remain a Dback (if they're unable to find a deal that both fulfills Vazquez's demands and one of worth to the Dbacks) and perhaps if some team loses one of their better starters (not among his 6-teams) could be desperate enough to trade away their better prospects to obtain Vazquez to help salvage their chances.... Hopefully that would occur in Spring Training since I would hate for him to risk injury himself or struggle and downgrade his redeemable value in the process...