Vince Young story getting bizarre

[fireball]

Wow it's funny how a Vince Young story can take a top spot on google.

Howdy y'all. Titan fan here!!

Yeah, he sucks. And so did Pac Man last year. But just as our defense didn't skip a beat without Pac, our offense won't skip a beat without Vince. This is a Jeff Fisher team, and we're still contenders with or without Vince. Hell, Brady is out, Colts suck, we just knocked the hell outta the Jags, I think that puts the Titans as front runners in the AFC!!!

 

[Southpaw]

Sounds to me like he's incapable of playing in this league and knows it.

Fear of failure might be catching up. The NFL ain't the Big 12. If you run , you get hurt. If you can't throw you get picked. If you can't think, you can't play. Looks like Cutler was the QB to take in that draft. Young seemed to come off as " a little different " than most. His interviews were very aloof and empty, almost strange. Reality comes at players quickly in the NFL.

 

[Russ Smith]

Just keeps getting weirder. Fisher said they didn't have the "luxury" of waiting for more information before calling police, based on the information they had they called police which included Swat personnel! Young had an unloaded gun in his car. It sounds like someone incorrectly told them Young was planning some sort of barricade himself in a house type deal and when they found out that wasn't the case they had him speak to a police psychologist and when convinced he was ok, they let him drive home. They apparently were given bad information by family and friends that led them to believe they needed Swat and negotiators.

And now his mom is being quoted essentially saying she's not sure Vince has the desire to play anymore.

again I hope he gets the help he needs sounds like his family and friends were awfully concerned he was going to do something dangerous.



http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3577597

"What would you think, if you were tired of being ridiculed and persecuted and talked about and not being treated very well, what would you do? What kind of decision would you make?'' Young's mother Felecia Young told The Nashville Tennesssean on Tuesday. "He may not want to deal with it [all], but you have to get to that point before you make that decision first.

"But we're not talking about football right now. We're talking about what would make him happy, and that is the most important thing. ... You don't want people to be hurting like he is. But it is a growing-up process, and he will eventually come out like gold no matter what. But Vince is going to be OK. We are just going to try and give him some space."

 

[NMCard]

It will be so much rougher for him now since mommy talked to the press. This guy is going to be hamered by his own fans as well as the fans from other teams they play.
They should really try and deal with his issues in private.

 

[cardsfanmd]

Wow it's funny how a Vince Young story can take a top spot on google.

Howdy y'all. Titan fan here!!

Yeah, he sucks. And so did Pac Man last year. But just as our defense didn't skip a beat without Pac, our offense won't skip a beat without Vince. This is a Jeff Fisher team, and we're still contenders with or without Vince. Hell, Brady is out, Colts suck, we just knocked the hell outta the Jags, I think that puts the Titans as front runners in the AFC!!!

I would like to argue with you, but I think you may be exactly right. Nice post.

Newbies gotta buy here though, so I'll have a 20oz mug of Bud Light Lime and a chicken burrito.

Also, seeing as though you are an opposing fan I doubt you will be here much. Would you mind donating your A$FN bucks to me? Just go down underneath my avatar where it says donate and click Then fill the donate slot on the new page w/ 1000 and click donate again.

 

[82CardsGrad]

Fisher reached out to police because therapist said Young mentioned suicide

ESPN.com news services





NASHVILLE, Tenn. -- The Tennessee Titans called police for help searching for Vince Young because his therapist told coach Jeff Fisher the quarterback mentioned suicide several times before driving away from his home with a gun.

Both Fisher and Young have said what happened Monday night was overblown by the media. But the supplemental report filed Tuesday by Nashville police showed that Fisher was worried what his quarterback might be doing after the call from Young's therapist.
"I asked [Fisher], 'What made her worry about him?'" Lt. Andrea Swisher wrote. "He stated, 'His mood, his emotions, he wants to quit, and he mentioned suicide several times.' He went on to state that [Young] left the house with a gun."

The Titans declined to comment on details of the report. On Tuesday, the team issued a statement saying police had been called over concern for Young but those concerns were unfounded.

"Last night, we received a call from people that are closest to Vince informing us that he had left his house in a state of mind that had them concerned; and that he was unreachable, having left his cell phone at the house," it said. "Not having all the facts available to us and approaching the matter prudently, we contacted Metro Police to make them aware of the situation and asked for their assistance in locating Vince. He was located at a friend's house, where we made contact with him. He then came to the practice facility where it was determined that those initial concerns by his friends and family were unfounded and he returned home without incident."

ESPN obtained a copy of the report on Friday.

The Titans' head of security notified police around 7:30 p.m. that he had a player "going off," and Fisher was in his truck when he saw Nashville police writing a report on a separate incident.
Young's manager, Mike Mu, told police he had tried to follow Young when the quarterback left his home. But Mu said he couldn't keep up with Young on Interstate 65 despite driving 90 mph.

Fisher connected police with Young's therapist, Sheila Peters, a clinical psychologist who had met with Young earlier Monday. It was then that Young used the word "suicide" in conversations with her.
During the search for Young, Peters arranged for an evaluation by employees from a psychiatric hospital in Nashville. Then Fisher heard from Young's agent that the quarterback was safe and at an apartment with a female friend.

The agent, Major Adams, told The Associated Press on Tuesday that Young had been watching football and eating chicken wings with a male friend during the four hours people were searching for the quarterback.
Police arranged for crisis negotiators and SWAT officers to be on hand. They searched Young for weapons when he arrived at the Titans' headquarters around 11:30 p.m. They only found an unloaded handgun in the glove box of his Mercedes.

Tennessee law allows an individual to possess an unloaded weapon provided there is no ammunition with it in the car.
"He was allowed to talk to his therapist and then he was released," the police report stated

 

[Duckjake]

Hey Jeff, let Vince run once in a while and it'll be the other team's defensive coordinators that are contemplating suicide.

Am I wrong? 1 carry for 4 yards and Vince got hurt. He's not a traditional pocket passer. You have to have the threat of him taking off and going 60 for him to be effective. So what if he gets hurt doing that? He's getting hurt sitting in the pocket.

It's like buying a Ferrari and fueling it with regular gas and driving it around town at 35mph.

 

[KingSwing]

This combined with his depressed state in the offseason, saying he couldnt take the pressure and was considering retiring, tells me he has some deep seeded issues. Sounds like mild schizophrenia to me.

You said "deep seeded" again.

What a hoser! Ha ha ha!

You would not be invited on our trivia team because you are one of those fake intellectuals who tries to impress with phrases like "deep seeded". We laugh at your types in public.

According to a Jan. 19 Fox News story from Houston about how "[a]n application form to join a parochial schools group that was sent to Texas Islamic schools has created misunderstanding and anger between local Muslims and Christians",

Iesa Galloway, Houston Executive Director of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (search) said the questionnaire was "rooted in deep-seeded ignorance of the religion of Islam and the Muslim people."
​

For most Americans, "deep-seeded" is pronounced exactly the same way as "deep-seated", due to (what linguists call) flapping and voicing of /t/ in words like seated, as in many other contexts (e.g. in fatter and rabbiting and at all, but not in attack). And in terms of the current ordinary-language meaning of the words involved, "deep-seeded ignorance" makes sense, while "deep-seated ignorance" doesn't. Ignorance can be planted deep and thus have deep metaphorical roots, but deep-seated ignorance would have to be ignorance cut with a lot of room in the crotch, or maybe ignorance sitting in a badly-designed armchair.
Still, Fox News needs better copy editors.
The established phrase is "deep-seated", which is listed in any good dictionary and has 590,000 Google hits, while "deep-seeded" is not listed in any dictionary (at least as far as I've checked), and has only 24,800 Google hists, so that the public vote is 96% for seated, 4% for seeded.
We've been accused recently of "let[ting] stodgy prescriptivism out into Language Log". In fact, I'm a linguistic libertarian -- I think you should speak and write as you please, but you should also understand what you're doing, and accept the consequences. In this case, if you write about "deep-seeded ignorance", you'll be using what most educated people will take to be a misconstrual of a long-established phrase.

 

[Duckjake]

You said "deep seeded" again.

What a hoser! Ha ha ha!

You would not be invited on our trivia team because you are one of those fake intellectuals who tries to impress with phrases like "deep seeded". We laugh at your types in public.

According to a Jan. 19 Fox News story from Houston about how "[a]n application form to join a parochial schools group that was sent to Texas Islamic schools has created misunderstanding and anger between local Muslims and Christians",

Iesa Galloway, Houston Executive Director of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (search) said the questionnaire was "rooted in deep-seeded ignorance of the religion of Islam and the Muslim people."
​

For most Americans, "deep-seeded" is pronounced exactly the same way as "deep-seated", due to (what linguists call) flapping and voicing of /t/ in words like seated, as in many other contexts (e.g. in fatter and rabbiting and at all, but not in attack). And in terms of the current ordinary-language meaning of the words involved, "deep-seeded ignorance" makes sense, while "deep-seated ignorance" doesn't. Ignorance can be planted deep and thus have deep metaphorical roots, but deep-seated ignorance would have to be ignorance cut with a lot of room in the crotch, or maybe ignorance sitting in a badly-designed armchair.
Still, Fox News needs better copy editors.
The established phrase is "deep-seated", which is listed in any good dictionary and has 590,000 Google hits, while "deep-seeded" is not listed in any dictionary (at least as far as I've checked), and has only 24,800 Google hists, so that the public vote is 96% for seated, 4% for seeded.
We've been accused recently of "let[ting] stodgy prescriptivism out into Language Log". In fact, I'm a linguistic libertarian -- I think you should speak and write as you please, but you should also understand what you're doing, and accept the consequences. In this case, if you write about "deep-seeded ignorance", you'll be using what most educated people will take to be a misconstrual of a long-established phrase.

 

[fireball]

I would like to argue with you, but I think you may be exactly right. Nice post.

Newbies gotta buy here though, so I'll have a 20oz mug of Bud Light Lime and a chicken burrito.

Also, seeing as though you are an opposing fan I doubt you will be here much. Would you mind donating your A$FN bucks to me? Just go down underneath my avatar where it says donate and click Then fill the donate slot on the new page w/ 1000 and click donate again.

Did I do it right? Did you get your money? No problem, I guess LOL. Y'all have an easy way of entertaining yourselves here LOL. I wouldn't exactly call me an "opposing" fan. It seems we have this difference called AFC and NFC. But yeah, not much reason for me to be here, other than to give you money. Yeah, in Tennessee, we know the difference between "than" and "then". We have teeth and are not as uneducated as many would like to think.

 

[Pariah]

You said "deep seeded" again.

What a hoser! Ha ha ha!

You would not be invited on our trivia team because you are one of those fake intellectuals who tries to impress with phrases like "deep seeded". We laugh at your types in public.

According to a Jan. 19 Fox News story from Houston about how "[a]n application form to join a parochial schools group that was sent to Texas Islamic schools has created misunderstanding and anger between local Muslims and Christians",

Iesa Galloway, Houston Executive Director of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (search) said the questionnaire was "rooted in deep-seeded ignorance of the religion of Islam and the Muslim people."
​

For most Americans, "deep-seeded" is pronounced exactly the same way as "deep-seated", due to (what linguists call) flapping and voicing of /t/ in words like seated, as in many other contexts (e.g. in fatter and rabbiting and at all, but not in attack). And in terms of the current ordinary-language meaning of the words involved, "deep-seeded ignorance" makes sense, while "deep-seated ignorance" doesn't. Ignorance can be planted deep and thus have deep metaphorical roots, but deep-seated ignorance would have to be ignorance cut with a lot of room in the crotch, or maybe ignorance sitting in a badly-designed armchair.
Still, Fox News needs better copy editors.
The established phrase is "deep-seated", which is listed in any good dictionary and has 590,000 Google hits, while "deep-seeded" is not listed in any dictionary (at least as far as I've checked), and has only 24,800 Google hists, so that the public vote is 96% for seated, 4% for seeded.
We've been accused recently of "let[ting] stodgy prescriptivism out into Language Log". In fact, I'm a linguistic libertarian -- I think you should speak and write as you please, but you should also understand what you're doing, and accept the consequences. In this case, if you write about "deep-seeded ignorance", you'll be using what most educated people will take to be a misconstrual of a long-established phrase.

Let me get this straight.

1) You're on HIM for being a pseudo intellectual?
2)For using a pretty common phrase like "deep-seeded?"
3) and ban him from your trivia team as if that's the highest aspiration of any true scholar?
4) Then you go into a huge diatribe about linguistics only to arrive at the conclusion that he should not only type as you speak, but also that he used the phrase correctly?

Dude. Get help.

 

[WisconsinCard]

You said "deep seeded" again.

What a hoser! Ha ha ha!

You would not be invited on our trivia team because you are one of those fake intellectuals who tries to impress with phrases like "deep seeded". We laugh at your types in public.

According to a Jan. 19 Fox News story from Houston about how "[a]n application form to join a parochial schools group that was sent to Texas Islamic schools has created misunderstanding and anger between local Muslims and Christians",

Iesa Galloway, Houston Executive Director of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (search) said the questionnaire was "rooted in deep-seeded ignorance of the religion of Islam and the Muslim people."
​

For most Americans, "deep-seeded" is pronounced exactly the same way as "deep-seated", due to (what linguists call) flapping and voicing of /t/ in words like seated, as in many other contexts (e.g. in fatter and rabbiting and at all, but not in attack). And in terms of the current ordinary-language meaning of the words involved, "deep-seeded ignorance" makes sense, while "deep-seated ignorance" doesn't. Ignorance can be planted deep and thus have deep metaphorical roots, but deep-seated ignorance would have to be ignorance cut with a lot of room in the crotch, or maybe ignorance sitting in a badly-designed armchair.
Still, Fox News needs better copy editors.
The established phrase is "deep-seated", which is listed in any good dictionary and has 590,000 Google hits, while "deep-seeded" is not listed in any dictionary (at least as far as I've checked), and has only 24,800 Google hists, so that the public vote is 96% for seated, 4% for seeded.
We've been accused recently of "let[ting] stodgy prescriptivism out into Language Log". In fact, I'm a linguistic libertarian -- I think you should speak and write as you please, but you should also understand what you're doing, and accept the consequences. In this case, if you write about "deep-seeded ignorance", you'll be using what most educated people will take to be a misconstrual of a long-established phrase.

All I can say to this is WOW. This has to be the ulimate Thread Jack...

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Also, seeing as though you are an opposing fan I doubt you will be here much. Would you mind donating your A$FN bucks to me? Just go down underneath my avatar where it says donate and click Then fill the donate slot on the new page w/ 1000 and click donate again.

Did I do it right? Did you get your money? No problem, I guess LOL. Y'all have an easy way of entertaining yourselves here LOL. I wouldn't exactly call me an "opposing" fan. It seems we have this difference called AFC and NFC. But yeah, not much reason for me to be here, other than to give you money. Yeah, in Tennessee, we know the difference between "than" and "then". We have teeth and are not as uneducated as many would like to think.

Wow, that was easy.....

Off to devise A$FN schemes...

 

[cardsfanmd]

Did I do it right? Did you get your money? No problem, I guess LOL. Y'all have an easy way of entertaining yourselves here LOL. I wouldn't exactly call me an "opposing" fan. It seems we have this difference called AFC and NFC. But yeah, not much reason for me to be here, other than to give you money. Yeah, in Tennessee, we know the difference between "than" and "then". We have teeth and are not as uneducated as many would like to think.

Yes, you are the man!!!!!!!

 

[cardsfanmd]

Wow, that was easy.....

Off to devise A$FN schemes...

Ask and you shall recieve.

Now I have more to bet on the Skin's demise this week.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

You said "deep seeded" again.

What a hoser! Ha ha ha!

You would not be invited on our trivia team because you are one of those fake intellectuals who tries to impress with phrases like "deep seeded". We laugh at your types in public.

According to a Jan. 19 Fox News story from Houston about how "[a]n application form to join a parochial schools group that was sent to Texas Islamic schools has created misunderstanding and anger between local Muslims and Christians",

Iesa Galloway, Houston Executive Director of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (search) said the questionnaire was "rooted in deep-seeded ignorance of the religion of Islam and the Muslim people."
​

For most Americans, "deep-seeded" is pronounced exactly the same way as "deep-seated", due to (what linguists call) flapping and voicing of /t/ in words like seated, as in many other contexts (e.g. in fatter and rabbiting and at all, but not in attack). And in terms of the current ordinary-language meaning of the words involved, "deep-seeded ignorance" makes sense, while "deep-seated ignorance" doesn't. Ignorance can be planted deep and thus have deep metaphorical roots, but deep-seated ignorance would have to be ignorance cut with a lot of room in the crotch, or maybe ignorance sitting in a badly-designed armchair.
Still, Fox News needs better copy editors.
The established phrase is "deep-seated", which is listed in any good dictionary and has 590,000 Google hits, while "deep-seeded" is not listed in any dictionary (at least as far as I've checked), and has only 24,800 Google hists, so that the public vote is 96% for seated, 4% for seeded.
We've been accused recently of "let[ting] stodgy prescriptivism out into Language Log". In fact, I'm a linguistic libertarian -- I think you should speak and write as you please, but you should also understand what you're doing, and accept the consequences. In this case, if you write about "deep-seeded ignorance", you'll be using what most educated people will take to be a misconstrual of a long-established phrase.

That was the most random thing I have ever seen in a list of posts.


But I do feel bad.......I mean you are not going to be invited to the Trivia Team. Chin up man, Chin up.

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