Vujanic on tv

[sunsfn]

Joe Mama said Vujanic was going to be on tv.


Did anyone watch the game?

 

[slinslin]

When is Suns.com going to start some serious draft coverage!!!???!!!


PS: sorry for using this thread for some ranting.

 

[elindholm]

When is Suns.com going to start some serious draft coverage!!!???!!!

Yeah, I've been wondering that too! Have they even been working anyone out? The draft is in only three weeks.

 

[slinslin]

If you consider Jameer Nelson and a bunch of second round picks or guys unlikely to be drafted a real workout?

Well that one article about the workout. No player interviews , photos or anything else.

 

[sly fly]

I caught his game last week (not sure if it was a repeat).

His team dominated. Vujanic dominated. Delfino dominated.

Vujanic NEEDS to move to the NBA so he can test his skills. He made that other team's guards look silly.

He was streaking to the hole with the ball in his hands, finishing breaks, draining 3's, and playing aggressive D.

When he went out, his team stagnated. They had some midget Italian backup PG who was a dead ringer for legend, Chris Corchiani.

Vujanic plays like Bobby Jackson. I'm not going to say he's better than BJ, until I see how he holds up to the more physical play in the NBA.

But, Vujanic is GOOD. VERY GOOD!

The only way my opinion would be swayed is if I found out they were shooting on 9 foot rims.

BTW, Delfino is a nice player. Detroit's going to be loaded when comes over.

I wasn't very impressed by the caliber of play. I thought this was supposed to be the top league in Europe? I'm beginning to think these Euros are peaking out. I'd love to see the hype squashed with our USA squad kicking the crap out of them.

 

[Joe Mama]

Sorry guys. I recorded today's game, but I haven't had a chance to watch it yet. I'll probably do that this evening or tomorrow morning.

The Phoenix Suns might not have worked anyone out yet here because they're coaching staff is over in Europe.


Joe

 

[George O'Brien]

What's the rush? I'm sure they have a pretty good idea as to who is worth looking at. It doesn't take three weeks to look at three or four guys, which is what it will come down to unless they trade down.

 

[Goldfield]

Sorry guys. I recorded today's game, but I haven't had a chance to watch it yet. I'll probably do that this evening or tomorrow morning.

The Phoenix Suns might not have worked anyone out yet here because they're coaching staff is over in Europe.


Joe

Hey Joe,

You think when your done with that tape I could get you to send me a copy? I would love to watch this kid play.

If there is any chance, let me know and I will send over the cost to ship it...

 

[devilalum]

Maybe the Suns aren't working anybody out because they've already got a deal in place for their pick.

 

[Joe Mama]

Maybe the Suns aren't working anybody out because they've already got a deal in place for their pick.

If they give the #7 draft pick to Charlotte to take Jahidi White a better get something great in free agency.

I think it's more likely that the staff is all over in Europe right now for that tournament. I'm sure we will start hearing about some workouts next week. I hope so. This is supposed to be the beginning of a very exciting off-season for the Phoenix Suns.

Joe Mama

 

[Joe Mama]

"I don't see how anyone can accurately answer this question."

We don't have to answer it accurately, just answer on the basis of what we know and have heard. I've heard that Milos isn't much of a defender, and few Euros have been labelled as poor defenders then proved otherwise, so I go with Barbs - who isn't really a good defender yet but he has good possibilities in that realm. I don't expect him to turn out to be a starting PG in the NBA but I think he'll be a solid bench contributor as a combo guard who can up the tempo of a game.
The key thing to remember when it comes to getting players is to think playoffs, where weak defenders get picked on unmercifully. If a guy won't help you in the playoffs you are better off without him - with him you might go into the playoffs thinking your team is better than it really is.

I watched this game Thursday. Ideally the Phoenix Suns would want a point guard who is good in the open court, a strong defender, a good shooter, and can break down opposing defenses when a half-court offense stalls. I obviously have yet to see Vujanic against a strong, NBA defender, but at this point I think the only area he will probably struggle in his defense.

I believe I have now seen Vujanic in 5-6 games. He may not pick up a lot of assists for Skipper Bologna, but he is a very good passer. He just really isn't asked to run the point guard position like we're used to seeing from a traditional NBA point guard. However I think he would be capable of doing that.

He is very good at finding the open man if the defense collapses on him when he drives to the basket. He's also very good at running a fast break. He is not like Barbosa, Eisley, or some of the other guards we have seen in the Suns uniform lately who will almost always try to finish the break on their own. He knows where to put the ball to get easy basket. He has a nice runner in the land similar to what we see from Tony Parker and Steve Nash.

Like Nash, Vujanic does not possess a great first step that is going to allow him to just below by defenders, so he uses changes in his speed to get to the basket. He has excellent acceleration. I think that he will be very similar to Steve Nash. I'm not sure he has quite the range on his shot yet, but the rest of the games are very similar.

I'm sure Barbosa will improve this summer, but based on what I've seen so far Vujanic would be better for the Phoenix Suns offensively. Barbosa is basically a spot up shooter. Occasionally he can take his man off the dribble, but if the defense collapses he seems lost. At least that's the way it was last season. Defensively I do think Barbosa would be better because of his length and quickness. Vujanic is probably very similar to Steve Nash defensively.


Basically I've come to the conclusion that Barbosa and Vujanic would probably make a nice point guard tandem. I'm not sure it really matters who starts. They could each play 20-25 minutes per game depending on the matchups. It's going to come down to the Phoenix Suns other lands in the draft, the expansion draft, free agency, and trade market.

The Phoenix Suns have so many options this summer it's beginning to make my head spin. I don't think they will make a decision on Vujanic until later in the summer assuming that he actually wants to play with the team. That will give them a chance to see what the team looks like and how he looks against the world's best players in the Olympics. I really hope we get to see him go head to head against the Americans or an international , NBA point guard like Tony Parker. It should give us a better idea of how he is going to fair defensively in the NBA.

Joe Mama

 

[George O'Brien]

Thankyou Joe for you report. I was puzzled by the reports that Vujanic either couldn't or wouldn't pass, because the clips we saw includes some very nice passes. It is always hard to evaluate players who are in radically different offensive systems and several people have said that Skipper looked for him to score.

I agree with the idea of Vujanic and Barbosa splitting the time about equally. Other teams have had success with this scheme. On the Grizzlies Jason Wiliams plays 29.4 minutes per game and Earl Watson 20.6 minutes. On the Utah Jazz, Carlos Arroyo plays 28.3 minutes and Raul Lopez played 19.7 minutes. It may not be ideal, but it forces opponents to respond to radically different looks and changes in pace.

 

[Joe Mama]

I believe that Vujanic will be here next year unless the Phoenix Suns draft a point guard, sign a point guard, or sign a big-name free agent without unloading one of their other starting perimeter players. Now there is a decent chance that anyone of those things could happen. In fact there's a chance that a couple of those things could happen. We will just have to see, but I don't believe anything will be done officially with the Vujanic until the end of summer.

If he is on the Phoenix Suns next year I believe he will split time with Barbosa or somebody else. That is at least until one of the point guards shows that the team is much better with him distributing the ball.

Joe Mama

 

[Goldfield]

I have to agree that the two PG's could make a very nice combo...

I cant wait to see some tape of Vujanic!