Waiting for the Trading Deadline

George O'Brien

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I've just returned from a tour of some other Suns boards (best left unnamed :D ) and find everyone hashing over the same trade options we've discussed on this board. One thing that I have not seen discussed is the case for waiting until the trading deadline before making a major deal.

It strikes me that there are several good reasons to hold off:

1. We'll know if Lampe is a player. If Lampe fails to perform with the added minutes of being in the rotation, the Suns will know they need to find a starter. On the other hand, if he does moderately well, they will know all they need is another backup banger for the playoffs.

2. There is a reasonable chance that the Suns trading pieces will be more valuable. Right now Carbakapa and Eisley have zero trade value, but they may be much more valuable if perform during periods when they get to play (it may be restricted to blowouts, but minutes are minutes). Jacobsen has looked good during summer league, but he won't attract real attention until he performs during the regular season.

3. By February, some teams will know if they are completely out of contention and will be more open to making moves than during the summer when everyone thinks they'll make the playoffs.

4. Teams with cap space are more inclined to sell their space because half the player's salary is already covered and part of the balance can be covered with a cash payment.

5. Teams with guys with expiring contracts are more open to unloading the player if they decide they don't want to pay to keep him. It would be much more likely moves on expiring contracts of Ilgauskas and Ratliff would be made late rather than early.

I'm not saying that there will be a great deal available, but there is certainly a chance something will come up that is not available now.
 

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personally i am not in favor of making any trades at all except maybe to move casey (who wont get any playing time). i think we will sign hunter or jp and go to camp like that.
 

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Personally, I'm very afraid of Joe Johnson reverting once he isn't the team's primary ball handler again. I think with the signing of Nash and Q, he could end up getting a lot worse. If there was a good deal on the table of JJ for a reliable player, I would probably jump on it. This may be a case where if he stayed, he would bomb, but if he gets traded he would succeed. I'm just concerned that his trade value is higher right now than it will be by the midseason deadline. If he reverts back to old JJ, he may be worth close to nothing.
 

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fordronken said:
Personally, I'm very afraid of Joe Johnson reverting once he isn't the team's primary ball handler again. I think with the signing of Nash and Q, he could end up getting a lot worse. If there was a good deal on the table of JJ for a reliable player, I would probably jump on it. This may be a case where if he stayed, he would bomb, but if he gets traded he would succeed. I'm just concerned that his trade value is higher right now than it will be by the midseason deadline. If he reverts back to old JJ, he may be worth close to nothing.

I totally agree. JJ seems to have a lot of trade value now. It was rumored that the Magic wanted him bad and the Suns wouldn't include him.

Flakey people rarely change. JJ is a very talented player but IMHO he will always be an enigma.

I hope I'm wrong. :shrug:
 

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You guys are right. Trade JJ now while you have a chance. He will have less playing time due to Q and i think that he will not perform well under the pressure. Trade JJ while people still think he has great value.
 

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I see JJ and Q sharing the two spot. Also, Jacobson will get minutes. He will be a 1-2-3 filler. Kind of like our version of a "utility" player in baseball. Also, as the Olympics have shown, teams that have lots of shooters will do better than teams that don't. :)
 

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I wouldn't be too quick to ship joe out. He is probably still our best defender even when his offense does go south, but I have to believe penny being here was his biggest hurdle, He's gone and I think joe will be ok.
And Joe is far from an enigma. and the Olympics have nothing to do with the NBA, they play on different courts and different Rules!
 
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