Was Anyone Else Negged When Emmitt Scored?

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Perhaps I'm missing something but Emmitt's final TD run scared the bejesus out of me.

Here we were with 2:00 minutes to go; 3rd and 9 with no Seattle time outs. If we pick up the first down, it's "knee time" and game-over.

If he scores the TD, Seattle gets the ball back 8 points down and about 1:53 left (an eternity by NFL standards) and we know all too bitterly what can happen when the other team is still within TD and 2-point range.

As Emmitt is crossing the first down marker, I'm yelling "Stop! Fall down. Bend down and tie your shoe. Run around and eat up time until someone touches you. Anything. Just don't score!

Emmitt scores. Remote bounces off far wall.

I guess that's how Cardinal fans think.

Was anyone else thinking the same thoughts?
 

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Absolutely, yes! First thought through my head before the 'touchdown' yell. I couldn't figure out why they wouldn't have taken a knee at the 1. Don't get me wrong, it was cool to see a TD, but dang, I could just see the seahawks somehow get the ball in the enzone followed by the 2 pt conv. and wham! Were tied and lose the coin toos in overtime (dejavu?). I guess a player isn't trained that way to just not score. Oh well, we won!
 

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The fact that we were willing to run the ball on 3rd and 9 says to me that we were ready to accept a field goal and give them the ball back with only a 4 point lead....assuming that Rackers makes the attempt.

Even still... I was happy that Emmit scored; but, my first thought was that Seattle had enough time left to score again.

Glad we got the win.

Go Cards!!!
 

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Green was definitely putting the game in the hands of his defense in the 4th Q. He didn't seem to have a lot of confidence in the O in the 2nd half. Or was it McCown? Very conservative playcalling in the 2nd half.
 

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pete said:
Very conservative playcalling in the 2nd half.

I think when the Cardinals were up 16-3, it wasn't a bad move to make conservative plays. That short Seattle INT return for a TD really killed us -- and put the Seahawks ahead. But the Cards came back with an awesome blocked punt and then a TD.
 

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Scott MS said:
I think when the Cardinals were up 16-3, it wasn't a bad move to make conservative plays. That short Seattle INT return for a TD really killed us -- and put the Seahawks ahead.

The Cardinals are simply not good enough to sit on any lead. When they tried it in SF, they lost. Almost lost this one too.

They need to go balls to the wall for 4 quarters!
 

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pete said:
The Cardinals are simply not good enough to sit on any lead. When they tried it in SF, they lost. Almost lost this one too.

They need to go balls to the wall for 4 quarters!

Maybe just try "Balls out" first then if that don't work then take them to the wall! :)
 

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pete said:
Green was definitely putting the game in the hands of his defense in the 4th Q. He didn't seem to have a lot of confidence in the O in the 2nd half. Or was it McCown? Very conservative playcalling in the 2nd half.


Fairly safe to say 8 straight runs that Green doesnt have confidence in McCown in "crunch" time. Before crunch time though McCown is fine....
 

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Has anybody EVER, at any level, seen a player go out of bounds at the 1 rather than take a TD? I'd hate to have a player like that on my team. They shouldn't be afraid of failure, they should figure that not only will the D stop them, they can actually score again.
 

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JeffGollin said:
Perhaps I'm missing something but Emmitt's final TD run scared the bejesus out of me.

Here we were with 2:00 minutes to go; 3rd and 9 with no Seattle time outs. If we pick up the first down, it's "knee time" and game-over.

If he scores the TD, Seattle gets the ball back 8 points down and about 1:53 left (an eternity by NFL standards) and we know all too bitterly what can happen when the other team is still within TD and 2-point range.

As Emmitt is crossing the first down marker, I'm yelling "Stop! Fall down. Bend down and tie your shoe. Run around and eat up time until someone touches you. Anything. Just don't score!

Emmitt scores. Remote bounces off far wall.

I guess that's how Cardinal fans think.

Was anyone else thinking the same thoughts?

No. Cause our defense is our strength. Yes, you can point out in SF they could stop 2 big drives, but yesterday they where on point. Green was leaning on the strength of this team, the defense, and put it in their hands to win the game. Plus a nice rushing TD late in the game while your up is good football.

But I can see your side of looking at it. It makes perfect sense that we could have just taken the 1st down and ran the clock out. That makes perfect sense.

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JeffGollin said:
Perhaps I'm missing something but Emmitt's final TD run scared the bejesus out of me.

Here we were with 2:00 minutes to go; 3rd and 9 with no Seattle time outs. If we pick up the first down, it's "knee time" and game-over.

If he scores the TD, Seattle gets the ball back 8 points down and about 1:53 left (an eternity by NFL standards) and we know all too bitterly what can happen when the other team is still within TD and 2-point range.

As Emmitt is crossing the first down marker, I'm yelling "Stop! Fall down. Bend down and tie your shoe. Run around and eat up time until someone touches you. Anything. Just don't score!

Emmitt scores. Remote bounces off far wall.

I guess that's how Cardinal fans think.

Was anyone else thinking the same thoughts?

Not me Jeff! I was thinking just like Emmitt: "show me the goal line". That TD really pumped up the side line players and the crowd. Your thinking is absolutely correct but sometimes a man has got to do what a man has got to do. It would have gone against every instinct in Emmitt's head to not take it to the house.
 

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swd1974 said:
Fairly safe to say 8 straight runs that Green doesnt have confidence in McCown in "crunch" time. Before crunch time though McCown is fine....

"Fairly safe to say..." you don't have confidence in McCown... as for what Coach Green thinks... I'll leave it to him to express.
 

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pete said:
Green was definitely putting the game in the hands of his defense in the 4th Q. He didn't seem to have a lot of confidence in the O in the 2nd half. Or was it McCown? Very conservative playcalling in the 2nd half.

I doubt McCown called any of those plays.
 

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ajcardfan said:
Has anybody EVER, at any level, seen a player go out of bounds at the 1 rather than take a TD? I'd hate to have a player like that on my team. They shouldn't be afraid of failure, they should figure that not only will the D stop them, they can actually score again.

What player is that cereberal running at full speed with players chasing you wanting to knock the ball out of your arms or your head off. Your natural instincts take over and you head for the goal line. I doubt that one out of a thousand in the stands would have understood if Smith went out of bounds. They probably would have booed. I must confess I was not that smart at the time and it never crossed my mind. If the coaches were of such a mind they should have instructed the runner prior to the play but I seriously doubt it crossed their minds.
 

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Somewhere on this board is a post of mine right after the score regretting that Emmitt didn't flop on the ground. I know we should trust our defense, but I don't care if it was the '86 Bears on the field, anything can happen. I know that it's probably instinctive to go for the end zone though and things did work out.

Then again, I could see them downing it at the one and then having something go insanely wrong, and the saying "He should have gone in!".
 
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Then again, I could see them downing it at the one and then having something go insanely wrong, and the saying "He should have gone in!".
I think living in the shadow of Bill Parcells all those years has coloured my thinking.

Downing the ball on the one and then taking 4 knees seemed like a sure thing. Giving the ball back to Seattle - albeit with an 8 point lead - seemed less sure.

I'm so tired of symbolic victories and doing stuff for effect at the expense of winning that I'll go for whatever gives me the best chance of winning every time. In this case taking 4 knees would have 100% iced the game.
 

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Some idiots were talking about this on the radio post game.

You take the points. If you are so worried about what if...what if we fumble crossing the goal line on the next play Aaron Brooks style and we get nothing?
 

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Osbern61 said:
Then again, I could see them downing it at the one and then having something go insanely wrong, and the saying "He should have gone in!".

Could you imagine if we had fumbled a snap and then the Seahawks completed a big pass and they kick a FG to beat us? Man, how ugly would that have been?
 
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BTW what the heck is negged?
Feeling negative - especially over an apparent positive thing
 

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swd1974 said:
Fairly safe to say 8 straight runs that Green doesnt have confidence in McCown in "crunch" time. Before crunch time though McCown is fine....

That's gonna need to change. They were fortunate with the Smith TD run.
 
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