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Hassleback says Leinart had a good preseason and DA was typically inaccurate etc. Said Whiz says it is about more than stats because Matt went 9-10 last night and he isn't starting him.

Hassleback said he may be on an island but he believes Matt should start.

He never mentioned Matt not making the team and they showed highlights of last nights game.

As they ended the segment they again mentioned Hassleback's support for Matt.

Where is the talk of him being cut? This was not an old segment.
 
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Hassleback says Leinart had a good preseason and DA was typically inaccurate etc. Said Whiz says it is about more than stats because Matt went 9-10 last night and he isn't starting him.

Hassleback said he may be on an island but he believes Matt should start.

He never mentioned Matt not making the team and they showed highlights of last nights game.

As they ended the segment they again mentioned Hassleback's support for Matt.

Where is the talk of him being cut? This was not an old segment.


The original question to Hassleback...The reason why you had those answers. The 1st statement or question was. That Leinart could be cut before final cuts. What do you think about that Timm? You will see....Leinart will be cut...sorry but it is going to happen.
 
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The original question to Hassleback...The reason why you had those answers. The 1st statement or question was. That Leinart could be cut before final cuts. What do you think about that Timm? You will see....Leinart will be cut...sorry but it is going to happen.

Not in the segment I watched. Sorry, he praised Matt and said he didn't understand the decision. No mention of cuts at all. This was tonight. He mentioned stats and DA's performance being typical of him.
 

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I mean come on guys. I have said between DA and Leinart it is a coin flip. I was a huge Warner fan...But only because he was OUR QB and he GAVE us the best chance to win. I dont dislike Leinart. I just think he does dump the ball off to much and you have to admit.....He can complete 3 passes in a series and not gain 10 yards!

But this writing has been all over the wall....Why do you guys again seem to ignore it or block it out. Lombardi said Leinart could be cut like 10 days ago. Everyone screamed BS...then 5 days later...Whiz names Anderson the starter! Everyone screams what?!? Now the cut story is picking up more steam. Last night...Lombardi NOW says he will be CUT!!!! Period! Type in Leinart getting cut in google. Anyway Whiz shows happiness talking about Anderson.....Why after 4 years would he have to play with Leinarts head again!?!? What he did was basically ease in that he won't be the starter instead of announcing right before the season.

Heck the point that Whiz wont name a starter is obvious enough that Leinart wont be it. Leinart as of 3 days ago thought it was his job easy!

He wont backup so the logical choice is to cut him so he wont cause problems.

It is obvious to see.

I dont know if it is the right choice but it will be done.
 

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I mean come on guys. I have said between DA and Leinart it is a coin flip. I was a huge Warner fan...But only because he was OUR QB and he GAVE us the best chance to win. I dont dislike Leinart. I just think he does dump the ball off to much and you have to admit.....He can complete 3 passes in a series and not gain 10 yards!

But this writing has been all over the wall....Why do you guys again seem to ignore it or block it out. Lombardi said Leinart could be cut like 10 days ago. Everyone screamed BS...then 5 days later...Whiz names Anderson the starter! Everyone screams what?!? Now the cut story is picking up more steam. Last night...Lombardi NOW says he will be CUT!!!! Period! Type in Leinart getting cut in google. Anyway Whiz shows happiness talking about Anderson.....Why after 4 years would he have to play with Leinarts head again!?!? What he did was basically ease in that he won't be the starter instead of announcing right before the season.

Heck the point that Whiz wont name a starter is obvious enough that Leinart wont be it. Leinart as of 3 days ago thought it was his job easy!

He wont backup so the logical choice is to cut him so he wont cause problems.

It is obvious to see.

I dont know if it is the right choice but it will be done.

No way. Maybe DA starts over matty, but there is no freaking way the Whiz and co pin their hopes on derek freaking anderson and two rookies.

If DA crashes and burns, and Skelton or Hall can't stop the bleeding (and they won't be able to, just think about some of the defenses we'll be playing this year), it could send the franchise into a tailspin that might cost Whiz his job.

Anybody can see this.
 

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See this is why this site becomes an issue. I wouldn't come across condescending if you guys wouldn't shoot the messenger all the time. I mean everyone has an opinion and should be heard. I come off condescending when I have to say the same statement 25 times because the first 24 people 1)crack at it 2)insult it... Everyone gets angry with me about my posts about Warner...and he only took us to the SuperBowl! You dont have to like me...But I am accurate more than not.

I've seen you opinion on this a lot and I disagree with it a lot. Matty isn't going anywhere.
 

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Maybe But DO you think Leinart will play Backup here??? He is due 14 million next year....why keep him?

They have another article that says they will pick another QB from the waiver wire after they cut Leinart. They also might contact Jeff Garcia. Type in Will Leinart get cut? in google. there are a few stories about it that are recent. Lombardi now says He will be cut period!

if Cards cut Leinart how much of that 14 mil are they responsible for? another reason he wont be cut.
 

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I actually have to agree with Cards Compost on this one. Not because of ESPN, but if you watch the post game presser link below at about 4 minutes in, Whiz hardly even says Matt's name and alludes to other factors for success. When he's asked about DA a little later, he says "Derek" and seems to be more animated. Plus his body language tells me a lot. As soon as someone asked about what he thought of Matt's performance, he put his finger up to his head. Sure sign of someone who wants to be careful how he says something.

http://www.azcardinals.com/photos-v...ars-Game/4a5f2557-9394-4ed5-9f84-a537ca823f99
 

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I actually have to agree with Cards Compost on this one. Not because of ESPN, but if you watch the post game presser link below at about 4 minutes in, Whiz hardly even says Matt's name and alludes to other factors for success. When he's asked about DA a little later, he says "Derek" and seems to be more animated. Plus his body language tells me a lot. As soon as someone asked about what he thought of Matt's performance, he put his finger up to his head. Sure sign of someone who wants to be careful how he says something.

http://www.azcardinals.com/photos-v...ars-Game/4a5f2557-9394-4ed5-9f84-a537ca823f99

Wow. I'm not saying he'll be cut, but Whis has definitely made up his mind. It's not even close if you look at that video. It felt like, "Yeah, Matt was something like 9/10, but we're not going to judge this on stats alone (ie, ANY of our decision on stats because Matt's are considerably better)." Then when talking about DA, "Derek sure has good chemistry and made a nice read on a blitz. He really executed those bang bang plays where you've got to zip the ball in there. He only had one mistake where he kind of overthrew Early, but that's fixable and we'll get it corrected." (Um, does Whis have blinders on here? NO ONE has gotten Derek to get more accurate or put touch on his passes. DA could have easily had 2 picks due to his inaccuracy and Matt had 2 strong drives and only missed 1 throw).

I didn't think we'd have a QB competition and it looks like we never did since Whis already made up his mind before the 1st preseason game (He's been giving DA more snaps in EVERY game to get him ready).

I just don't get it. From a PR stand point, he's going about this all wrong. Give Matt a LEGITIMATE chance to prove you wrong before you pull the rug out from underneath him. If DA falters (which his history says he WILL) you're going to lose a lot of credibility and your season. :bang:
 
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I have to agree wiith Card Campos, IMO, ML definetly has outplayed DA, but Whiz' mind is made up (seemingly). Only question in my mind is whether ML will be cut or traded. After week one, I look for Garcia to be signed. JMO.
 

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There's also the real possibility that Leinart's asks to be released once Anderson is officially named the starter. I can't say I'd blame him either. If he's done everything asked and worked extremely hard, as reported, then he absolutely has no future in the Cards franchise.
 

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If DA starts I will not be making my bet for the cards to win the division and I will be extremely depressed.
 

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If DA starts I will not be making my bet for the cards to win the division and I will be extremely depressed.

3rd. I know I speak for Linderbee too.
 

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Last night...Lombardi NOW says he will be CUT!!!! Period!

Type in Leinart getting cut in google. .

I typed, and didn't find anything where Lombardi says that Matt WILL BE CUT.

So, let's have the "linK" or we'll chalk this up to more of your usual BS.
 

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I find this quarterback issue to be very distasteful and unbecoming to a team that has struggled with personnel issues for much of its history. This brings back visions of old time Cardinals and how they would handle a potential star who was asking for more money. When he would get ready for his pre camp physical, they team would say so sorry but u failed your physical. The player would then sign with another team and play for a few more years.

I would not be surprised that Matt was ever strongly considered the starter by Whiz. I think it is something that the FO strongly suggested to Whiz because of the $$ and his draft ranking. (pure supposition) So Whiz figures well I will show them that he is not my qb by making sure that he fails.

Now we all know that the team does nothing to gameplan for a pre-season game, but at what legnth does the team prepare for specific plays for a preseason week. I can not answer that. I would guess that they prepare some but not beyond a minimal amount since the plays are mostly considered basic plays and everyone should know them.

The preseaon offensive gameplan ultimately falls into the hands of one person, Whiz. Looking back, it is very obvious to me that his plan all along was to bring Anderson along to be the starter. He knew this before the first game. As horrible as Anderson was look how long he stayed with him despite him looking HORRIBLE against the Texans. Anderson and Roberts in that game were the absolute worst passing combo I have seen play professional football. But look how long Whiz stayed with him because he wanted him to have something positive to build on.

Before everyone gets all hyper on Matt being king of the dump offs, remember who is calling the plays and maybe that was the design of the plays. Whiz might not have wanted to let Matt play any longer in those games because he did not want to let him have a chance to develop a feel for the game. Considering all of the pressure that Matt was under because of the lethargic offensive line play, it is a wonder that he was as successful as he was. Matt was truly not treated like a starter the first 2 games more like simply a placeholder.

We all know that the Cardinals needed to bring another qb to camp following the retirement of Warner, but what do we do? We bring in four. We only carried 2 qb on the roster last year. Doesn't that appear strange? Particularly when the veteran that you sign, has a track record, I find it a little strange. Since in all likelihood you will not carry more then 3 on the active roster, it appears wierd to spread the snaps around so much.

The point is Matt did not fail from his effort to be the starter. He is failing to be the starter it appears by the design of one man. Whiz appears to be getting his way. There may be truth in fact about what someone previously said about there being a reason why some of our FA fled the Cardinal's nest. For a change, the reason apparently is not BB and his infamous bowties.
 

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Moral of this whole deal:

"Don't let the media screw with your head."

Prior to the Chicago game, I heard local Cardinal interviewers ask Leinart presumptive speculative questions designed to inflame.

Like: "How'd you feel about being demoted?" or "If you're demoted, would you want to remain on the team?" or "Are you being treated fairly?" or "What has Coach Wiz said to you? How well do you get along?"

I mean, how do you begin to respond to questions like this without falling into a humongous trap?

Unless you're a master politician - you're quite likely to try to answer those questions sincerely but instead are quite likely to find yourself led directly into a quagmire full of vipers.

Memo to Matt: Turn off the TV and cell-phone, keep your head down and just grind away. If you do good, good things will happen."
 

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I mean come on guys. I have said between DA and Leinart it is a coin flip. I was a huge Warner fan...But only because he was OUR QB and he GAVE us the best chance to win. I dont dislike Leinart. I just think he does dump the ball off to much and you have to admit.....He can complete 3 passes in a series and not gain 10 yards!

But this writing has been all over the wall....Why do you guys again seem to ignore it or block it out. Lombardi said Leinart could be cut like 10 days ago. Everyone screamed BS...then 5 days later...Whiz names Anderson the starter! Everyone screams what?!? Now the cut story is picking up more steam. Last night...Lombardi NOW says he will be CUT!!!! Period! Type in Leinart getting cut in google. Anyway Whiz shows happiness talking about Anderson.....Why after 4 years would he have to play with Leinarts head again!?!? What he did was basically ease in that he won't be the starter instead of announcing right before the season.

Heck the point that Whiz wont name a starter is obvious enough that Leinart wont be it. Leinart as of 3 days ago thought it was his job easy!

He wont backup so the logical choice is to cut him so he wont cause problems.

It is obvious to see.

I dont know if it is the right choice but it will be done.

I am not a Leinart lover, but I had to respond to the inaccuracies in your post. First of all Whiz only named Anderson the starter for the Bears game in fact his quote was"that while he's evaluating Anderson's ... that the Cards are justflipping the script” for a week, rather than making final decisions."

I also did as you asked and googled Leinart being cut and again you are stretching what is being said. The quotes "May be", "Could be", and "Will he" be cut were used but nobody definitely came out and said he will be cut. Even Mike Lombardi who you claim as your source does not go as far as to say he will be cut.You are posting on speculation that if he is not the starter then he will be cut to keep the rookies. The same could be said for Anderson if Leinart is named the starter.

I do not know who will be the starter, but neither do you. If your guess is right you will come on and proclaim how we should have listened to you. The truth is you have a fifty percent chance of being right (or 33 percent if you are foolish enough to put Hall into the equation). In the end it is fun for us to speculate, but no one outside the Cards knows exactly who will be behind center when the dust clears.
 

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Whiz never named a starter until game time in 2008 when He choose Kurt over Matt. I don't think DA is the better QB it aint even a coin flip If Whiz wasn't the HC.

I do know Our defense can't be trusted to carry a game. They are still tripolar and Mike Adams still aint cut after failing as a CB on any level.

We aint running a balanced offense, Whiz is still counting on the pass to open up the run, with a smash mouth oline. Why The Bean doesn't get a chance to start in preseason under the same reasoning as DA, I don't know.

I don't know but Whiz was right on the evaluation in the 3rd game. It was easy to evaluate. as an ex player he wouldn't like to play for Matt? The players are gagged, Leinart wants out of this nightmare. Da is happy to have the oppurtunity.

Tim Hasselback played for whiz as QB, Tim Rattay was held off by a crippled KW. Whiz aint got this team ready for primetime or the Rams.

there is fan discomfort as Whiz said. and I'm in matts corner, It's sad that other Cards players like DD and Joey have no support either way. But it is what it is.

I mean come on guys. I have said between DA and Leinart it is a coin flip. I was a huge Warner fan...But only because he was OUR QB and he GAVE us the best chance to win. I dont dislike Leinart. I just think he does dump the ball off to much and you have to admit.....He can complete 3 passes in a series and not gain 10 yards!

But this writing has been all over the wall....Why do you guys again seem to ignore it or block it out. Lombardi said Leinart could be cut like 10 days ago. Everyone screamed BS...then 5 days later...Whiz names Anderson the starter! Everyone screams what?!? Now the cut story is picking up more steam. Last night...Lombardi NOW says he will be CUT!!!! Period! Type in Leinart getting cut in google. Anyway Whiz shows happiness talking about Anderson.....Why after 4 years would he have to play with Leinarts head again!?!? What he did was basically ease in that he won't be the starter instead of announcing right before the season.

Heck the point that Whiz wont name a starter is obvious enough that Leinart wont be it. Leinart as of 3 days ago thought it was his job easy!

He wont backup so the logical choice is to cut him so he wont cause problems.

It is obvious to see.

I dont know if it is the right choice but it will be done.
 

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Whiz meets with Leinart before preseason.

"You know how I've preached the importance of ball security over the years. Think of how careless Kurt was with the ball when I arrived, and the dramatic change in his approach. Ball security, taking what the "D" gives you, matriculating your way down the field, taking time off the clock - are all points you should keep in mind... and REMEMBER it all starts with not turning the ball over."

Whiz meets with Anderson before preseason.

"You know how I've preached the importance of getting chunks of real estate through the passing game. It's one of our strengths. Think of how fearless Kurt was. It could make him a first ballot HOF selection. So, look for your chances and don't be shy out there.. and REMEMBER that I know mistakes will be made from time-to-time, but that isn't going to be the only thing entering into my overall evaluation. Have fun!"
 

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Whiz meets with Leinart before preseason.

"You know how I've preached the importance of ball security over the years. Think of how careless Kurt was with the ball when I arrived, and the dramatic change in his approach. Ball security, taking what the "D" gives you, matriculating your way down the field, taking time off the clock - are all points you should keep in mind... and REMEMBER it all starts with not turning the ball over."

Whiz meets with Anderson before preseason.

"You know how I've preached the importance of getting chunks of real estate through the passing game. It's one of our strengths. Think of how fearless Kurt was. It could make him a first ballot HOF selection. So, look for your chances and don't be shy out there.. and REMEMBER that I know mistakes will be made from time-to-time, but that isn't going to be the only thing entering into my overall evaluation. Have fun!"

Tou freakin' che'
 

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