We need a RB also or start William Powell the rest of the way and see what we got.

[Shane]

Beanie couldn't even follow his lead blocker on 4th and a foot. Instead went further out to the left into a wall and then slipped into the freaking fetal position curling up like a big wuss. Then later on a blitz a LBer blitzes right up the lane and passes Beanie on his right who runs right past him giving him a free shot at the QB. On replay you could see that on the run a first down would have been had if he just followed the FB was even mentioned by billick when they came back from commercial. Who knows how he didn't see the blitzing LB and chooses to run right by him. Both plays were disgusting. Beanie MAY be just adequate and I stress may. But these two plays yesterday clearly illustrate to me that he will just never be the player we need at the position.

Dam we just have too many holes to fill

 

[PoolBoy]

IMO running back is the most unimportant position on a team. Get an offensive line, the running back will follow. If we had a good or even decent offensive line, Williams, Powell, LSH who cares I would be confident with any of them

 

[Shane]

IMO running back is the most unimportant position on a team. Get an offensive line, the running back will follow. If we had a good or even decent offensive line, Williams, Powell, LSH who cares I would be confident with any of them

I would normally agree. But the FB and OL did their job on those plays. Beanie and his lack of vision and ability to follow the play screwed us. Unacceptable.

 

[Chopper0080]

Beanie couldn't even follow his lead blocker on 4th and a foot. Instead went further out to the left into a wall and then slipped into the real position curling up like a big wuss. Then later on a blitz a LBer blitzes right up the lane and passes Beanie on his right who runs right past him giving him a free shot at the QB. On replay you could see that on the run a first down would have been ad if he just followed the FB was even mentioned by billick when they came back from commercial. Who knows how he didn't see the blitzing LB and chooses to run right by him. Both plays we're disgusting. Beanie MAY be just adequate and I stress may. But these two plays yesterday clearly illustrate to me that he will just never be the player we need at the position.

Dam we just have too many holes to fill

Wells did not have his best game on Sunday by any stretch, and might have been the worst I have seen from him. He just can't stay on his feet which kills him in short yardage when he is trying to get through the muck. He is so frustrating to watch.

 

[az jam]

Whiz said that Beanie is not yet at full strength.

 

[desertdawg]

Undersized super quick change of direction and change of pace dude with a good motor. Still learning, can't provide much in helping out the pass protection. Similar to Hyphen's game, we should keep one or the other. His running talent has held up in some real games. We do need a big back.

 

[Shane]

Cbus to his defense in 3....2...1....

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

I'm sure none of the other players missed a read all day. Pretty lame attempt to call out Wells in this game when the other team had 11 in the box every play because of no threat of a passing game.

Plus, it's not like there was a huge hole there. He probably would have gotten the 1st but did that play really matter other than to try and call out Wells for something.

You know if Rashard Johnson would have had some more open field moves, he would have scored on that play. I think we need to upgrade our punt protector, Johnson needs to go. Any good punt protector would have scored on that play. I'm going to start scouting punt protection blockers next week.

 

[Shane]

I'm sure none of the other players missed a read all day. Pretty lame attempt to call out Wells in this game when the other team had 11 in the box every play because of no threat of a passing game.

Plus, it's not like there was a huge hole there. He probably would have gotten the 1st but did that play really matter other than to try and call out Wells for something.

You know if Rashard Johnson would have had some more open field moves, he would have scored on that play. I think we need to upgrade our punt protector, Johnson needs to go. Any good punt protector would have scored on that play. I'm going to start scouting punt protection blockers next week.

I called him out because it was necessary. Those plays are simple things he should be accomplishing especially by a player who is as great as you claim and in his 4th year. Whether they would have changed the outcome is irrelevant.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Our problem with the running game is that we have no outside running threat and can't spread the defense. I've thought a speed option at RB has been needed on this team for a long time, or at least the threat of someone breaking it outside. All of our running plays are between the tackles and on short yardage it's hard to convert.

 

[Jetstream Green]

Beanie has not played in a while. Even if healthy, this sport is not one you can just step on the field and be expected to excel without having taken real game hits during ones hiatus and adjust instantly to what it feels like again

 

[OmahaCardsFan]

Beanie has not played in a while. Even if healthy, this sport is not one you can just step on the field and be expected to excel without having taken real game hits during ones hiatus and adjust instantly to what it feels like again

I chose to lean on the side of Shane. I respectively disagree with "has not played in a while" when it come to reading freaking blocks. These are professional football players that have done the simple things over and over their whole life. Either you can read a block or you can't. Now bursts and taking a hit.... that may be different. You gotta be able to run and execute a 2 yard play which is all he needed. plain and simple as that. IMHO

 

[Cheesebeef]

Our problem with the running game is that we have no outside running threat and can't spread the defense. I've thought a speed option at RB has been needed on this team for a long time, or at least the threat of someone breaking it outside. All of our running plays are between the tackles and on short yardage it's hard to convert.

our other problem with the running game is that for the last two years, we've depended on two players who have never shown the ability to stay healthy throughout their entire careers.

 

[football karma]

My frustration with Beanie is this: He can't seem to keep his feet. This line on the radio captured it perfectly: he looks like he is running barefoot over hot coals

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

I chose to lean on the side of Shane. I respectively disagree with "has not played in a while" when it come to reading freaking blocks. These are professional football players that have done the simple things over and over their whole life. Either you can read a block or you can't. Now bursts and taking a hit.... that may be different. You gotta be able to run and execute a 2 yard play which is all he needed. plain and simple as that. IMHO

It was one play.

I see Paris Lenon take a bad angle or overrun a play about 8 times a half.

 

[Shane]

It was one play.

I see Paris Lenon take a bad angle or overrun a play about 8 times a half.

It wasn't a bad angle. the LBer was coming right at him and passed by him within about 2 feet. He just runs right by him paying him no attention. Not quite the same. Plus you are a Lenon basher. If it was any RB beside Beanie I highly doubt you would be excusing it.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

It wasn't a bad angle. the LBer was coming right at him and passed by him within about 2 feet. He just runs right by him paying him no attention. Not quite the same. Plus you are a Lenon basher. If it was any RB beside Beanie I highly doubt you would be excusing it.

I'm not excusing it. I'm saying it didn't really matter. It was a bad read on one play. I'm sure every player could get called out on something similar.

If you remember, I defended running LSH up the middle on short yardage a couple weeks ago even though he was stuffed.

 

[OmahaCardsFan]

It was one play.

I see Paris Lenon take a bad angle or overrun a play about 8 times a half.

It was one play that he got caught on. Who knows how many there have been since he came back? (over last 2 weeks). It may be an interesting study? Maybe it was one? Maybe it wasn't? Based on the outcome (e.g. rushing yards per carry) I'd say it was not more than 1. I do realize the OL factor though. hmmmm

 

[Shane]

It was one play that he got caught on. Who knows how many there have been since he came back? (over last 2 weeks). It may be an interesting study? Maybe it was one? Maybe it wasn't? Based on the outcome (e.g. rushing yards per carry) I'd say it was not more than 1. I do realize the OL factor though. hmmmm

Kudos to cbus for nto excusing it. But as to what you said. The OL didnt cause him to not follow his lead blocker nor did they cause him to whiff on the blitzing LBer. They are a great source of agony for sure. But on those plays it was all BEANIE!

 

[OmahaCardsFan]

Kudos to cbus for nto excusing it. But as to what you said. The OL didnt cause him to not follow his lead blocker nor did they cause him to whiff on the blitzing LBer. They are a great source of agony for sure. But on those plays it was all BEANIE!

Oh don't get me wrong. I totally without a doubt agree with you. I was pointing out that Beanie's mis-reads are NOT limited to 1 or 2 whether blocks or running in the right hole. I think it is much more frequent. It's just those 2 he really got caught on (it was obvious). I really don't think Whis is a beanie fan either.

 

[Phrazbit]

I'm not excusing it. I'm saying it didn't really matter. It was a bad read on one play. I'm sure every player could get called out on something similar.

If you remember, I defended running LSH up the middle on short yardage a couple weeks ago even though he was stuffed.

It didnt matter? It was a failed 4th down deep in opposing territory in a game we lost by 1 point! And it wasnt simply a bad read, he didnt follow the play design, his blocker went up the gut, he follows him he has an easy couple yards and a first... he tries to bounce it outside when we only need one yard? Then DIVES forward like 3 yards short of a 1st? It was an aaaaaaaawful play and something you would really hope a guy in his 4th year would have the situational awareness to be beyond.

 

[WarnerHOF]

Beanie has the worst skill set I have ever seen out of a 1st round 6'2 230lb RB. We should just label him as a bust and move on.

 

[WildBB]

I still haven't heard why the most consistent back this yr. failed to get a touch Sunday?

 

[New Mexico]

I'm sure none of the other players missed a read all day. Pretty lame attempt to call out Wells in this game when the other team had 11 in the box every play because of no threat of a passing game.

Plus, it's not like there was a huge hole there. He probably would have gotten the 1st but did that play really matter other than to try and call out Wells for something.

You know if Rashard Johnson would have had some more open field moves, he would have scored on that play. I think we need to upgrade our punt protector, Johnson needs to go. Any good punt protector would have scored on that play. I'm going to start scouting punt protection blockers next week.

I had really high hopes for Beanie. I've seen him make some fantastic moves, but those are few and far between. The guy just cannot stay healthy and cannot keep his feet. He's the most frustrating running back I've ever rooted for and I'm not sure how anybody can support the guy at this point. We need to cut our losses and go in another direction.

 

[New Mexico]

I still haven't heard why the most consistent back this yr. failed to get a touch Sunday?

Because Whiz doesn't know who his best players are.