WE should go on strike!

[slanidrac16]

Until this is settled NOBODY should spend one dime on season tickets, DirectTV, or even as much as buy a t-shirt.

It is absolutely absurd that owners are arrogant enough to send out season ticket packages while this is going on.

" Send me your money for something that you might not get. But if that happens we will be glad to hold your money for next year or until there is a football season.
In return, you will be able to get your money back for any games cancelled or lost ( Thank you so much), or you can apply lost game monies to playoff tickets (Playoffs..playoffs?). In addition, pay in full and let us hold your money for a season that may never happen, you will be entered to win a Super Bowl Package. And the kicker, if you let us keep your money for any games lost or cancelled we will send you coupons for free food."

WOW MIster Owner's THANK YOU SO MUCH!. Don't send these guys a damn dime!

Hello, DirecTV? Yes I'm letting you know that I will not pay ( in part or full) for the NFL Package until this is settled. I also want you to know that if any games are lost or if the season is delayed, I will not be purchasing the NFL Ticket for the 2011 season.

Hello NFL.com? Please remove me from your email list for I am no longer interested in any products for an NFL that doesn't exist.

I know this won't happen. But think about it. The money they are arguing over is OURS! Dierctly or indirectly every penny they make comes from us. Whether you buy a season ticket, single game ticket, a t-shirt or a beer at the game it goes to them. If you buy the NFL ticket... it goes to them. Even if you buy a product that is advertised during an NFL game, your money is going to the NFL thru advertising costs.

It just seems insane to help fuel this nonsense with our money.

 

[Pariah]

Yep. That's the gamble they're taking if they don't get it taken care of before the season. They're fully aware of it, too. That's one of the big reasons I think it'll get done. There's too much money at stake.

 

[desertdawg]

I swear I just typed all this and then saw your thread! Nice.

I am on the fan's side right now, which doesn't exactly make me a fan right now, technically. The amount of time they have wasted is what does it for me. Both sides have their points, but they should have been made a while back. If court was the only path, it could have started and been well into running it's course by now.

But we will all get to listen and read over and over about how hard each side tried to get it done.

What about a fan's lockout? Some crafty dude should get a real website going for the fans that don't support the NFL Owners or Players Union in this.
Get enough people logging on and vowing not to go to games for a year or two if the Lockout prevents us from going to the Stadiums Fans pay for to see the games Fans pay for.

Now I gotta see if there is a Fanslockout.com or something already up.

 

[juza76]

I swear I just typed all this and then saw your thread! Nice.

I am on the fan's side right now, which doesn't exactly make me a fan right now, technically. The amount of time they have wasted is what does it for me. Both sides have their points, but they should have been made a while back. If court was the only path, it could have started and been well into running it's course by now.

But we will all get to listen and read over and over about how hard each side tried to get it done.

What about a fan's lockout? Some crafty dude should get a real website going for the fans that don't support the NFL Owners or Players Union in this.
Get enough people logging on and vowing not to go to games for a year or two if the Lockout prevents us from going to the Stadiums Fans pay for to see the games Fans pay for.

Now I gotta see if there is a Fanslockout.com or something already up.

should be nice then to see the reaction of these billionaire and millionaire

 

[cardpa]

I am absolutely down with this. I already planned to tell Direct I am not interested in NFL Sunday ticket because of what the owners and players are doing.

 

[PJ1]

Players bother me just as much as I really haven't seen an answer to the NFL proposal other than asking for more disclosure of finanacial information.

I do agree that the plan for attempting to hold on to season ticket money is laughable. You are screwing us and you want us to fund it. Give me a break.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

You can't go on Strike because the NFL Owners have already Locked you out when they locked out the players.

 

[Downtownbrown]

Well, one thing is for sure... no need to miss out on playing Fantasy Football. As of last year, there is a pretty decent CFL Fantasy Football site. Check em out. I know I'll be playing this year

The company is called Fantas-Eh Football (playing the pun on "Eh" haha)
Google em up... Fantaseh Football

 

[PJ1]

You can't go on Strike because the NFL Owners have already Locked you out when they locked out the players.

Sure you can. They want you to send your money for season tickets now. I guarantee when the time comes DirecTV will renew and start billing even if a settlement hasn't been reached. Merchandise is also still for sale.

 

[Snakester]

All of this is easy for me. I only went to a game or two per season anyway when the Cards came to the east coast. I just got rid of Direct TV a couple of months ago. I had already decided I was not going to pay 320. dollars for the season ticket. I can very easily stop buying Cardinal gear for several years because I already have about twenty hats and shirts and multiple other items. So I can go on strike for sure.

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

The key would be for fans to strike when games resume; send the league a message when it starts up again...

 

[Tyler]

The money I saved for Cardinals tickets is going to upgrade me on ASU tickets. F the No Football League. I wont go to a game this year, if they have any.

 

[splitsecond]

The money I saved for Cardinals tickets is going to upgrade me on ASU tickets. F the No Football League. I wont go to a game this year, if they have any.

Why would you punish yourself even more?

 

[slanidrac16]

You can't go on Strike because the NFL Owners have already Locked you out when they locked out the players.

Yes they locked us out......BUT STILL WANT OUR MONEY!. Why do you think there are current headlines reading "There will be an NFL season"?

Bottom line..... owners want you season ticket money. SCREW THEM.

NFL.com still is sending emails for team gear....SCREW THEM!

I'm sure the NFL Ticket will start billing even if nothing changes come July....Screw them too!.

 

[SuperSpck]

I'm in.
Not buying NFL squat.
Wish I could take the hard stance and just walk away like I should.

 

[General Chaos]

I was on the fence about renewing this year, and this lockout made the decision for me.

 

[Mr.Dibbs]

I was on the fence about renewing this year, and this lockout made the decision for me.

Ditto. I'll spend the money on something else this season. I have a hard time spending money on the NFL right now, no matter if the lockout ends tomorrow or in six months. Lockout = fan boycott.

Here's a Facebook page supporting it:
http://www.facebook.com/pages/NFL-Lockout-Fan-Boycott/156853264332785

 

[TRW]

Don't have season tickets, don't have DirectTV, but I am with the sentiment of the post.

I haven't watched baseball since they cancelled the World Series way back when. THAT proved to me more than anything else that the owners AND players don't give a crap for the fans.

It is no different with the NFL, but I happen to love football a LOT more than I ever did baseball (although I did love baseball prior to the World Series cancellation). I'd say that this is it, that I won't ever watch the NFL again, but I can't. I love the damn game and will tune in and watch once it all works out, which it will.

I can do without MLB and the NBA, but NOT the NFL. They have me hooked.

 

[slanidrac16]

Don't have season tickets, don't have DirectTV, but I am with the sentiment of the post.

I haven't watched baseball since they cancelled the World Series way back when. THAT proved to me more than anything else that the owners AND players don't give a crap for the fans.

It is no different with the NFL, but I happen to love football a LOT more than I ever did baseball (although I did love baseball prior to the World Series cancellation). I'd say that this is it, that I won't ever watch the NFL again, but I can't. I love the damn game and will tune in and watch once it all works out, which it will.

I can do without MLB and the NBA, but NOT the NFL. They have me hooked.

I'm with you TRW. Baseball lost me with the strike in the 90's. Now I use baseball as a ***** to get to training camp...and that's only when I have NOTHING else to do.
I can't see me staying away from football, however, I will not tolerate an abbreviated or cancelled season. If that happens all bets are off.

 

[Derm]

Sorry, I can't partake in the "walk-out". I just re-signed by club license and I'm sending my $ in for the seats & parking.

Having said that, I just hope that there IS a real season, not just replacement/scab games.

A real season or a refund....

 

[Hollywood]

Sorry, I can't partake in the "walk-out". I just re-signed by club license and I'm sending my $ in for the seats & parking.

Having said that, I just hope that there IS a real season, not just replacement/scab games.

A real season or a refund....

Ah....why do you think (at least in part) they are pushing for renewals with full payment up front. Games with replacements are still games and there will be no refunds for games played.

 

[MrYeahBut]

From this weeks New Yorker....author doesn't think much of the owners

Forgive me for being left leaning enough to subscribe to the magazine.....but thar she blows..

The Financial PageScrimmageby James Surowiecki
March 21, 2011 Share Print E-Mail Single Page Keywords
National Football League (N.F.L.); Labor Unions; Salary Cap; Revenue Sharing; Free Agency; Sports; Business The past weeks have seen two big labor disputes in the U.S. One is between Republican politicians and public-employee unions in Wisconsin—a fight over profound ideological differences about government spending and the proper role of unions. The other is the clash between N.F.L. owners and players over the owners’ desire for a new collective-bargaining agreement. The reason for this fight is much less complicated: it’s about very rich businessmen thinking that they should be even richer.

With the possible exception of the members of OPEC, N.F.L. owners have pretty much the coziest business arrangement imaginable: they’re effectively members of a cartel—able to limit competition, enhance bargaining power, and hold down costs. Instead of competing against each other for TV money, the owners share it, reducing risk and guaranteeing steady revenue regardless of how well they run their teams. The result of all this was nicely summed up by Richard Walden, head of sports finance at JPMorgan Chase, who said, “I’ve never seen an N.F.L. team lose money.”

So why are the owners unhappy? Well, the downturn has made it harder to raise ticket prices and to get states and cities to subsidize new stadiums. And players are the biggest expense that teams have: they get sixty per cent of whatever the league makes above a billion dollars. The owners think that’s too high and want players to accept sixty per cent of all revenue above two billion, which works out to be a pay cut of some six hundred million dollars.

Now, modern economies have a very effective mechanism for deciding if salaries are really too high: it’s called the free market. That’s how most people’s salaries are set, after all, including those of major-league baseball players and European soccer players. But N.F.L. owners have never liked the idea of a free labor market, which might cost them more and also threaten the league’s competitive balance. Instead, the league typically caps player salaries, a system that supposedly makes it easier for smaller franchises—like the Super Bowl-winning Green Bay Packers—to contend, and prevents rich teams from dominating, the way rich teams do in baseball and European soccer. The salary cap, the N.F.L. argues, is good for the business as a whole; parity makes the over-all pie bigger, leaving everyone better off.

This is not necessarily true; research shows that salary caps don’t always improve competitive balance, and soccer’s enormous fan base suggests that parity is not a requirement for popularity. But, even if it is true, what’s best for the league isn’t necessarily best for the players. Unlike the rest of us, they don’t get to choose where they want to work—they have to play for the team that drafts them—and they can be traded at will. Free agency is tightly regulated, and careers are short; the average N.F.L. player is in the league for just three and a half years. And, despite the violence of the game, contracts are not guaranteed. It’s not such a raw deal: the players’ share of the league’s revenue is similar to the share that players get in other major professional sports. But it’s almost certainly less than they would ask for (and get) in any free labor market, given the fact that football players have shorter careers than other athletes, less job security, and greater risk of serious injury. In the current arrangement, the players essentially accept a guaranteed share of over-all revenue in exchange for tolerating a status quo that in most other businesses would run afoul of antitrust law. You’d think that the owners would count their blessings. Instead, they are demanding that the players give back some of their income, and are offering little in exchange.

The owners argue that cutting the players’ share will let teams put more money into things like stadiums and new media, and that these investments will, in the long run, make everyone richer. The problem is that owners and players don’t benefit equally when football becomes more profitable. Sure, everyone’s income increases, but the owners also see the value of their teams rise; a 2004 study found that new stadiums increased the value of franchises by an average of thirty-five per cent, an effect that, along with a boom in television revenue, has caused the value of the average franchise to triple in the past twelve years. This increase in value benefits the owners alone, and explains why so many of them are now billionaires. If you work for Google or Apple, stock options give you a chance to share in the increasing value of the company. In the N.F.L., nothing like this happens; the players, though rich, are just working stiffs like the rest of us.

You might say that that’s capitalism—those who provide the capital for an enterprise deserve to reap the profits. But the N.F.L. isn’t capitalist in any traditional sense. The league is much more like the trusts that dominated American business in the late nineteenth century, before they were outlawed. Its goal is not to embrace competition but to tame it, making the owners’ businesses less risky and more profitable. Unions are often attacked for trying to interfere with the natural workings of the market, but in the case of football it’s the owners, not the union, who are the real opponents of the free market. They have created a socialist paradise for themselves that happens to bring with it capitalist-size profits. Bully for them. But in a contest between millionaire athletes and billionaire socialists it’s the guys on the field who deserve to win. ♦



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[Jersey Girl]

Sorry, I can't partake in the "walk-out". I just re-signed by club license and I'm sending my $ in for the seats & parking.

Having said that, I just hope that there IS a real season, not just replacement/scab games.

A real season or a refund....

Ditto that. I plan on sending in payment for my season tickets.

Ah....why do you think (at least in part) they are pushing for renewals with full payment up front. Games with replacements are still games and there will be no refunds for games played.

I don't think it will come to that. I don't see them pushing further for full payment this year than they have in previous years. And, if they are, then just take the payment plan.

I hate what's going with the NFL right now, on both sides, but I still wanna be there when football gets started.