Mitch
Crawled Through 5 FB Fields
As the Cardinals approach this year's draft, it will be very interesting to see what kind of an eye the organization has toward the future. Let's take a look at each position and guage the team's present and future needs.
For starters...based on what players are signed beyond 2008, here is the depth chart: (Note: for younger players who the Cards have the 4 year rights on, the 4th years are projected, even though some of them will have to be given qualified offers.)
QB: Leinart (2011)
RB: James (2009), Shipp (2009)
FB: Castille (2010)
WR: Fitzgerald (2011), Urban (2009)
LT: Gandy (2009)
LG: Wells (2010)
C: Johnson (2010), Sendlein (2010)
RG: Lutui (2009)
RT: Brown (2012)
TE: Pope (2009), Patrick (2010), Tuman (2009)
FL: Boldin (2010), Breaston (2010)
SOLB: Okeafor (2009)
SDE: Dockett (2011)
NT: Watson (2009), Branch (2010)
WDE: Robinson (2009)
WOLB: LaBoy (2011)
SILB: Hayes (2011)
WILB:
LCB: Hood (2011)
SS: Wilson (2009)
FS: Rolle (2010), Francisco (2010)
RCB:
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K: Rackers (2009)
LS: Hodel (2010)
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In 2009, if the Cardinals are not able to re-sign any of the UFAs under contract for this year, they would have two gaping starter holes at WILB (Dansby) and RCB (Green)...and while Bryan Robinson may still be od enough to start at WDE should the Cards be unable to re-sign Antonio Smith, the DE spot will have to be addressed, as will the following spots on the depth chart: QB, RB, FB, LT, RG, SOLB, CB.
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In looking at the big picture, therefore...do not be surprised if the Cardinals' first two picks are a WILB and CB.
If Southern California's Keith Rivers (6-2, 236, 4.60), for example, is available at #16...he would become the heir apparent to Dansby at WILB. Rivers has all the makings of a dynamic 3-4 WILB. The only real knock on him is that he wasn't much of a blitzer at USC...but, in the Cardinals' 3-4, they want more of a playmaker/side to side tackler than a blitzer at WILB. If you noticed, the Cards didn't blitz Dansby as much as one may have thought.
Do not rule out Penn State's Dan Connor (6-3, 233, 4.70) for the same reason. Even though Connor is projected as a late first rounder, if the Cards can't move down, they wouldn't have a shot at Connor at #50, so if they like him enough (they have been looking at him very closely), they may take him at #16. Connor, IMO, is a safe pick...he's far too instinctive and productive to ignore...and fits ideally as a 3-4 WILB, as he may not be stout enough to consistently handle the rigors of a starting MLB in the 4-3.
Did Rod Graves tip the Cardinals' hand in his presser with Paul Calvisi? I think he did when he said that there was good depth in the draft at CB, OL, RB and WR, but the draft was very thin at other positions (WILB...is one for sure)...which prompted him to say that the team needs to strike the right player or players early at the thin positions.
The wild card here at #16 may be Tennessee's Jerod Mayo (6-2, 230, 4.65) who has been skyrocketing up teams' draft boards in recent weeks. Mayo has the range and suddeness that would makes him a prolific player at the 3-4 WILB.
Conclusion: the Cards' first pick...Rivers, Connor or Mayo.
Note: It is my belief that the Cardinals will not want to surrender Calvin Pace type money to retain Karlos Dansby beyond this year. Instead, I believe they will focus their attention on re-signing DE Antonio Smith...and I feel that they believe they will have a good chance to re-sign RCB Eric Green, perhaps sometime during the latter half of the season.
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At #50...if a WILB is taken in the first round, it would behoove the Cardinals to take a CB here...which may well be the case if the right RCB, like Arizona's Antoine Cason (6-0, 189, 4.50) or Oklahoma's Reggie Smith (6-1, 197, 4.50) is available at #50.
However...a couple of players to keep an eye on here are Purdue's OLB Cliff Avril (6-3, 252, 4.65), Notre Dame's DE Trevor Laws (6-1, 297, 5.20) and North Carolina St.'s DE DeMarrio Pressley (6-3, 300, 5.15).
Graves was implying the Cards would have to strike early for players at positions that are very thin in this year's draft, and there's no question that the talent pools at OLB and DE/DT are very thin this year.
Conclusion: If Cason is there at #50...he'd be the pick because he'd be great value there, but if he is not, look for Avril, Laws or Pressley to be the pick.
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At #81...there's no doubt in my mind that the Cards are going to take an offensive linemen with this pick and the player they have wanted all along is Pittsburgh's G/T Mike McGlynn (6-5, 309, 5.20). If McGlynn is off the board, the Cards will likely take one of the following offensive linemen instead: Texas' T Tony Hills (6-5, 309, 4.90), Virginia Tech's T Duane Brown (6-5, 314, 5.02), Northern Iowa's Chad Rhinehart (6-5, 317, 5.31) or Toledo's John Greco (6-5, 302, 5.20).
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At #116...here's where things get even more interesting if Cason didn't fall into the Cards' laps at #50. They still haven't taken a CB...but as Rod Graves said, the pool is deep at CB in this year's draft. The CBs to choose from here would likely be BC's DeJuan Tribble (5-9, 190, 4.40), USC's Terrell Thomas (6-1, 197, 4.45), LSU's Chevis Jackson (6-0, 188, 4.53) or Auburn's Patrick Lee (6-0, 194, 4.50). All of these players shined in top shelf programs playing against the nation's best teams. Having watched Tribble play every game for 4 years at BC, I can attest that prior to his injury during this past season, Tribble was as good a RCB as there was in the ACC the past two years. He plays terrific angles and he consistently gets his hands on the football. Having watched quite a bit of Thomas, Jackson and Lee, they are all similar in the sense that they play a disciplined and physical style of corner. The good news is that all these players are natural RCBs...which is what the Cardinals need in case Eric Green falters, gets hurt or moves on in free agency.
If the Cards do land Cason at #50...or take another CB there...look for this pick to be an OLB/DE...the best candidates: Georgia Tech's Darrell Robertson (6-4, 247, 4.90), Virgina Tech's Chris Ellis (6-5, 260, 4.75), Mississippi St.'s Titus Brown (6-3, 239, 4.75) or UCLA's Bruce Davis (6-3, 241, 4.65).
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At #149...for some reason, I think the Cardinals, while tempted to take a RB or WR here, will add another CB or OL here. Should one of the aforementioned CBs slide to Round 5, they may hop on him, or even take a flier on Wisconsin's Jack Ikegwuonu (6-1, 201, 4.40)---a first round talent who tore his ACL--or Nebraska's Zackary Bowman (6-1, 196, 4.50)---another physical corner whose stock has dropped because he tore an ACL in 2006.
But...the two guys to keep an eye on here are UTEP's T Oniel Cousins (6-4, 301, 5.04) and Kansas' T Anthony Collins (6-5, 315, 5.25)...both of whom have the physcial skills to be good NFL players but need to be coached up on the fundamentals. Can you hear me Major Grimm?
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At #185...and at #225...a WR/RB combo would likely be in the works, a la Purdue's WR Dorien Bryant (5-10, 170, 4.50) and USC's RB Chauncey Washington (6-0, 215, 4.55)...or Wisconsin's WR Paul Hubbard (6-3, 214, 4.56) and Oklahoma's RB Allen Patrick (6-1, 197, 4.50).
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The Prediction: (LB Keith Rivers is off the board, otherwise he'd be the Cards' pick at #16)
1. LB Dan Connor, Penn. St. (LB Jerod Mayo, Tennessee)
2. CB Antoine Cason, Arizona (OLB Cliff Avril, Purdue)
3. G/T Mike McGlynn, Pittsburgh (G/T Chad Rhinehart, Northern Iowa)
4. OLB/DE Titus Brown, Mississippi St. (CB Terrell Thomas, USC)
5. T Anthony Collins, Kansas (T Oniel Cousins, UTEP)
6. WR Phil Hubbard, Wisconsin (WR Dorien Bryant, Purdue)
7. RB Allen Patrick, Oklahoma (RB Chauncey Washington, USC).
Just one quick note about the player most of the pundits have the Cardinals taking at #16: CB Dom Rodgers-Cromartie. Gotta love his speed and athleticism...but at #16 he's a major gamble. Small college kid who may not hold up physically in the NFL...he's not a physical player. Question: if you were the GM and you had to decide bewteen DRC and Brandon Flowers, whom would you select?
For me that's a no-brainer. Flowers thrived in a big time program against the best possible competition...and, ulike DRC, this kid plays a tough, physical style.
Finally...wouldn't it be something if the Cardinals shocked the football world and took QB Joe Flacco of Delaware with the #16 pick? Before you write me off as having gone totally insane...think about this for a second. The Cards still don't know what they have in Matt Leinart or even whether he will be able to hold up physically after two injury-riddled, less than stellar seasons. Kurt Warner is going to be 37 and is in the final year of his contract...and Whiz won a Super Bowl with a 6-6 rifle-armed QB named Ben Roethlisberger. When one watches Flacco, who may have an even better arm than Big Ben's, it's pretty enticing to think of him in a Cardinals' uniform with the WRs we have in Q and Fitz...and, get this, a TE in Ben Patrick, who was a favorite target of Flacco's at Delaware a year ago.
While scouting Patrick, maybe the Cards saw something special in Flacco, who not only possesses a big time arm, but has rare pocket vision.
You can call me insane because now, having spent the whole post predicting what Graves and the Cards will do...here's what I would do, if I could get Atlanta to agree to a trade that would likely entice them...
QB Matt Lienart to the Atlanta Falcons for RB Jerious Norwood, their #34 pick (Round 2) and their 4th round pick. I know...the cap ramifications are pretty severe...but I would do it anyway. In Norwood we get the perfect speed/homerun compliment to Edge...the plan would be to start Kurt Warner (who, IMO, should start ahead of Leinart this year anyway) for one more year or two while Whiz grooms Flacco.
1. QB Joe Flacco, Delaware. By trading Leinart to Atlanta, that means they won't take Matt Ryan at #3...which is key, because, there's a chance that if Ryan is off the board, that the Ravens could take Flacco at #8. Now the Ravens take Ryan at #8 and we get Flacco...although I's still worry about him getting by Carolina and Chicago.
2A. CB Antoine Cason, Arizona...unless Dan Connor or Quentin Groves (who I think is one of the more dynamic players in this draft) slides here. In essence we get first round value here with the #34 pick from Atlanta.
2B. LB Cliff Avril, Purdue. This guy is the perfect fit for our defense. Tough against both the run and getting after the QB.
3. WR Andre Caldwell, Florida. Explosive WR our offense needs...the missing link. He and Norwood would inject instant speed and homerun ability.
4A. T Duane Brown, Virginia Tech. Great talent...needs to be honed on the fundamentals.
4B. CB Terrell Thomas, USC. Why not load the wagon at an area of need?
5. DE Wallace Gilberry, Alabama. Depth needed here and Gilberry is one of my favorite sleepers in thid draft.
6. G Adam Kraus, Michigan. Inside mauler, who could be an eventual starter,
7. LB J Leman, Illinois. This kid is tough. Will excell on special teams.
I have to run...I've got to go to group therapy now. Today we are focusing on group hugs!
Hugs to all of you...it's a fun week ahead isn't it?
For starters...based on what players are signed beyond 2008, here is the depth chart: (Note: for younger players who the Cards have the 4 year rights on, the 4th years are projected, even though some of them will have to be given qualified offers.)
QB: Leinart (2011)
RB: James (2009), Shipp (2009)
FB: Castille (2010)
WR: Fitzgerald (2011), Urban (2009)
LT: Gandy (2009)
LG: Wells (2010)
C: Johnson (2010), Sendlein (2010)
RG: Lutui (2009)
RT: Brown (2012)
TE: Pope (2009), Patrick (2010), Tuman (2009)
FL: Boldin (2010), Breaston (2010)
SOLB: Okeafor (2009)
SDE: Dockett (2011)
NT: Watson (2009), Branch (2010)
WDE: Robinson (2009)
WOLB: LaBoy (2011)
SILB: Hayes (2011)
WILB:
LCB: Hood (2011)
SS: Wilson (2009)
FS: Rolle (2010), Francisco (2010)
RCB:
P:
K: Rackers (2009)
LS: Hodel (2010)
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In 2009, if the Cardinals are not able to re-sign any of the UFAs under contract for this year, they would have two gaping starter holes at WILB (Dansby) and RCB (Green)...and while Bryan Robinson may still be od enough to start at WDE should the Cards be unable to re-sign Antonio Smith, the DE spot will have to be addressed, as will the following spots on the depth chart: QB, RB, FB, LT, RG, SOLB, CB.
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In looking at the big picture, therefore...do not be surprised if the Cardinals' first two picks are a WILB and CB.
If Southern California's Keith Rivers (6-2, 236, 4.60), for example, is available at #16...he would become the heir apparent to Dansby at WILB. Rivers has all the makings of a dynamic 3-4 WILB. The only real knock on him is that he wasn't much of a blitzer at USC...but, in the Cardinals' 3-4, they want more of a playmaker/side to side tackler than a blitzer at WILB. If you noticed, the Cards didn't blitz Dansby as much as one may have thought.
Do not rule out Penn State's Dan Connor (6-3, 233, 4.70) for the same reason. Even though Connor is projected as a late first rounder, if the Cards can't move down, they wouldn't have a shot at Connor at #50, so if they like him enough (they have been looking at him very closely), they may take him at #16. Connor, IMO, is a safe pick...he's far too instinctive and productive to ignore...and fits ideally as a 3-4 WILB, as he may not be stout enough to consistently handle the rigors of a starting MLB in the 4-3.
Did Rod Graves tip the Cardinals' hand in his presser with Paul Calvisi? I think he did when he said that there was good depth in the draft at CB, OL, RB and WR, but the draft was very thin at other positions (WILB...is one for sure)...which prompted him to say that the team needs to strike the right player or players early at the thin positions.
The wild card here at #16 may be Tennessee's Jerod Mayo (6-2, 230, 4.65) who has been skyrocketing up teams' draft boards in recent weeks. Mayo has the range and suddeness that would makes him a prolific player at the 3-4 WILB.
Conclusion: the Cards' first pick...Rivers, Connor or Mayo.
Note: It is my belief that the Cardinals will not want to surrender Calvin Pace type money to retain Karlos Dansby beyond this year. Instead, I believe they will focus their attention on re-signing DE Antonio Smith...and I feel that they believe they will have a good chance to re-sign RCB Eric Green, perhaps sometime during the latter half of the season.
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At #50...if a WILB is taken in the first round, it would behoove the Cardinals to take a CB here...which may well be the case if the right RCB, like Arizona's Antoine Cason (6-0, 189, 4.50) or Oklahoma's Reggie Smith (6-1, 197, 4.50) is available at #50.
However...a couple of players to keep an eye on here are Purdue's OLB Cliff Avril (6-3, 252, 4.65), Notre Dame's DE Trevor Laws (6-1, 297, 5.20) and North Carolina St.'s DE DeMarrio Pressley (6-3, 300, 5.15).
Graves was implying the Cards would have to strike early for players at positions that are very thin in this year's draft, and there's no question that the talent pools at OLB and DE/DT are very thin this year.
Conclusion: If Cason is there at #50...he'd be the pick because he'd be great value there, but if he is not, look for Avril, Laws or Pressley to be the pick.
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At #81...there's no doubt in my mind that the Cards are going to take an offensive linemen with this pick and the player they have wanted all along is Pittsburgh's G/T Mike McGlynn (6-5, 309, 5.20). If McGlynn is off the board, the Cards will likely take one of the following offensive linemen instead: Texas' T Tony Hills (6-5, 309, 4.90), Virginia Tech's T Duane Brown (6-5, 314, 5.02), Northern Iowa's Chad Rhinehart (6-5, 317, 5.31) or Toledo's John Greco (6-5, 302, 5.20).
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At #116...here's where things get even more interesting if Cason didn't fall into the Cards' laps at #50. They still haven't taken a CB...but as Rod Graves said, the pool is deep at CB in this year's draft. The CBs to choose from here would likely be BC's DeJuan Tribble (5-9, 190, 4.40), USC's Terrell Thomas (6-1, 197, 4.45), LSU's Chevis Jackson (6-0, 188, 4.53) or Auburn's Patrick Lee (6-0, 194, 4.50). All of these players shined in top shelf programs playing against the nation's best teams. Having watched Tribble play every game for 4 years at BC, I can attest that prior to his injury during this past season, Tribble was as good a RCB as there was in the ACC the past two years. He plays terrific angles and he consistently gets his hands on the football. Having watched quite a bit of Thomas, Jackson and Lee, they are all similar in the sense that they play a disciplined and physical style of corner. The good news is that all these players are natural RCBs...which is what the Cardinals need in case Eric Green falters, gets hurt or moves on in free agency.
If the Cards do land Cason at #50...or take another CB there...look for this pick to be an OLB/DE...the best candidates: Georgia Tech's Darrell Robertson (6-4, 247, 4.90), Virgina Tech's Chris Ellis (6-5, 260, 4.75), Mississippi St.'s Titus Brown (6-3, 239, 4.75) or UCLA's Bruce Davis (6-3, 241, 4.65).
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At #149...for some reason, I think the Cardinals, while tempted to take a RB or WR here, will add another CB or OL here. Should one of the aforementioned CBs slide to Round 5, they may hop on him, or even take a flier on Wisconsin's Jack Ikegwuonu (6-1, 201, 4.40)---a first round talent who tore his ACL--or Nebraska's Zackary Bowman (6-1, 196, 4.50)---another physical corner whose stock has dropped because he tore an ACL in 2006.
But...the two guys to keep an eye on here are UTEP's T Oniel Cousins (6-4, 301, 5.04) and Kansas' T Anthony Collins (6-5, 315, 5.25)...both of whom have the physcial skills to be good NFL players but need to be coached up on the fundamentals. Can you hear me Major Grimm?
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At #185...and at #225...a WR/RB combo would likely be in the works, a la Purdue's WR Dorien Bryant (5-10, 170, 4.50) and USC's RB Chauncey Washington (6-0, 215, 4.55)...or Wisconsin's WR Paul Hubbard (6-3, 214, 4.56) and Oklahoma's RB Allen Patrick (6-1, 197, 4.50).
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The Prediction: (LB Keith Rivers is off the board, otherwise he'd be the Cards' pick at #16)
1. LB Dan Connor, Penn. St. (LB Jerod Mayo, Tennessee)
2. CB Antoine Cason, Arizona (OLB Cliff Avril, Purdue)
3. G/T Mike McGlynn, Pittsburgh (G/T Chad Rhinehart, Northern Iowa)
4. OLB/DE Titus Brown, Mississippi St. (CB Terrell Thomas, USC)
5. T Anthony Collins, Kansas (T Oniel Cousins, UTEP)
6. WR Phil Hubbard, Wisconsin (WR Dorien Bryant, Purdue)
7. RB Allen Patrick, Oklahoma (RB Chauncey Washington, USC).
Just one quick note about the player most of the pundits have the Cardinals taking at #16: CB Dom Rodgers-Cromartie. Gotta love his speed and athleticism...but at #16 he's a major gamble. Small college kid who may not hold up physically in the NFL...he's not a physical player. Question: if you were the GM and you had to decide bewteen DRC and Brandon Flowers, whom would you select?
For me that's a no-brainer. Flowers thrived in a big time program against the best possible competition...and, ulike DRC, this kid plays a tough, physical style.
Finally...wouldn't it be something if the Cardinals shocked the football world and took QB Joe Flacco of Delaware with the #16 pick? Before you write me off as having gone totally insane...think about this for a second. The Cards still don't know what they have in Matt Leinart or even whether he will be able to hold up physically after two injury-riddled, less than stellar seasons. Kurt Warner is going to be 37 and is in the final year of his contract...and Whiz won a Super Bowl with a 6-6 rifle-armed QB named Ben Roethlisberger. When one watches Flacco, who may have an even better arm than Big Ben's, it's pretty enticing to think of him in a Cardinals' uniform with the WRs we have in Q and Fitz...and, get this, a TE in Ben Patrick, who was a favorite target of Flacco's at Delaware a year ago.
While scouting Patrick, maybe the Cards saw something special in Flacco, who not only possesses a big time arm, but has rare pocket vision.
You can call me insane because now, having spent the whole post predicting what Graves and the Cards will do...here's what I would do, if I could get Atlanta to agree to a trade that would likely entice them...
QB Matt Lienart to the Atlanta Falcons for RB Jerious Norwood, their #34 pick (Round 2) and their 4th round pick. I know...the cap ramifications are pretty severe...but I would do it anyway. In Norwood we get the perfect speed/homerun compliment to Edge...the plan would be to start Kurt Warner (who, IMO, should start ahead of Leinart this year anyway) for one more year or two while Whiz grooms Flacco.
1. QB Joe Flacco, Delaware. By trading Leinart to Atlanta, that means they won't take Matt Ryan at #3...which is key, because, there's a chance that if Ryan is off the board, that the Ravens could take Flacco at #8. Now the Ravens take Ryan at #8 and we get Flacco...although I's still worry about him getting by Carolina and Chicago.
2A. CB Antoine Cason, Arizona...unless Dan Connor or Quentin Groves (who I think is one of the more dynamic players in this draft) slides here. In essence we get first round value here with the #34 pick from Atlanta.
2B. LB Cliff Avril, Purdue. This guy is the perfect fit for our defense. Tough against both the run and getting after the QB.
3. WR Andre Caldwell, Florida. Explosive WR our offense needs...the missing link. He and Norwood would inject instant speed and homerun ability.
4A. T Duane Brown, Virginia Tech. Great talent...needs to be honed on the fundamentals.
4B. CB Terrell Thomas, USC. Why not load the wagon at an area of need?
5. DE Wallace Gilberry, Alabama. Depth needed here and Gilberry is one of my favorite sleepers in thid draft.
6. G Adam Kraus, Michigan. Inside mauler, who could be an eventual starter,
7. LB J Leman, Illinois. This kid is tough. Will excell on special teams.
I have to run...I've got to go to group therapy now. Today we are focusing on group hugs!
Hugs to all of you...it's a fun week ahead isn't it?
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