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[George O'Brien]

Until we know one way or another about whether the Clippers will match on Q, it is likely that nothing else will happen. While it is possible to imagine trades, it seems unlikely the Suns will do much until they know if Q is going to be on the team or not.

The kind of trades the Suns would even consider would be different if they still had the cap space. Also, the definition of what the team needs are might change.

If Richardson is on the team this season, the Suns will almost certainly be using "small ball" to a greater degree than otherwise. One of the problems with "small ball" was that it takes a lot of energy and the Suns lacked the depth to be able to sustain it - especially without Bo Outlaw. With Richardson, the Suns would have Richardson, Barbosa, Carbakapa, and Jacobsen coming in off the bench to help sustain the energy level.

One odd thing about Q is that he would probably be used more as a forward than as a guard. His 6.4 rpg is very high for a guard (Nene averaged only 6.5 rpg). Charles Barkley proved that a guy his size can play inside effectively if he is really strong and plays with intensity. Richardson is a great leaper and may be better suited to playing PF as the only slightly taller Shawn Marion.

It is interesting trying to figure out how Q would fit, but it may all be moot.

It is really hard to figure out trades until all the RFA's have cleared and the exact nature of team needs can be determined. It is hard to know if there would be any free agents worth seeking left by then.

Limbo.

 

[Dave64]

Richardson is a great leaper and may be better suited to playing PF

no

 

[cepstrum]

Richardson is a great leaper and may be better suited to playing PF

no

Thanks for the clarification man. Cmon post a reason with it. Dont just write no. Why not? Id rather play Richardson at PF than play Marion at PF.

 

[Dave64]

Q is a 2, not a 3, and certainly not a 4. Is Q a better post-up player than Marion. Yes. The Suns have never been a team who liked to post guards down low. If those five players are on the court, Q may post up more than Marion, but there is no way in the world Q is going to be listed as a PF on any team in any century. That is laughable. Regardless, the conversation is moot. Q will never put on a Suns uniform.

 

[cepstrum]

Q is a 2, not a 3, and certainly not a 4. Is Q a better post-up player than Marion. Yes. The Suns have never been a team who liked to post guards down low. If those five players are on the court, Q may post up more than Marion, but there is no way in the world Q is going to be listed as a PF on any team in any century. That is laughable. Regardless, the conversation is moot. Q will never put on a Suns uniform.

Q is an inch or two shorter than marion and he is ten pounds heavier. The reason he plays the two is because magette plays the three. IMO Q is a lot better suited at handling the PF position than marion when comparing physical attributes. He doesnt have a 2's game. I'm not saying that he would be good at the 4, but he could be better than marion.

 

[George O'Brien]

Q is a 2, not a 3, and certainly not a 4. Is Q a better post-up player than Marion. Yes. The Suns have never been a team who liked to post guards down low. If those five players are on the court, Q may post up more than Marion, but there is no way in the world Q is going to be listed as a PF on any team in any century. That is laughable. Regardless, the conversation is moot. Q will never put on a Suns uniform.

I certainly have doubts that Q will be Sun. But what makes you think he would be a good #2? He is not a great shooter or ball handler. However, he is very effective in the paint and grabs a lot of rebounds. This sounds suspiciously like a forward to me.

BTW, the question of how someone is listed is something of a farce. The Suns routinely would lists Outlaw at center, when it was obvious that Amare was at center and Outlaws was at PF. What matters is how the player is used, not how they are listed in the program.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Thanks for the clarification man. Cmon post a reason with it. Dont just write no. Why not? Id rather play Richardson at PF than play Marion at PF.

i'd have to say "no" also. while q does possess a nice sturdy frame and low post game, he is in no way similar to charles. charles had that big old butt that provided all his strength in his lower body. q is not built quite the same. nor is q the leaper that barkley was. q is a good athlete, barkley was a freak.

i'd actually rather see jj playing the pf for streaks than either marion or q. jj has the best combo of sturdy frame and height (6'8 or 6'7 - so equal to or greater than marion). he also does not shy away from contact like marion.

but in reality i'd rather see NONE of these guys in the pf slot. that's just a mismatch that places our defense at an extreme disadvantage.

 

[cepstrum]

i'd have to say "no" also. while q does possess a nice sturdy frame and low post game, he is in no way similar to charles. charles had that big old butt that provided all his strength in his lower body. q is not built quite the same. nor is q the leaper that barkley was. q is a good athlete, barkley was a freak.

i'd actually rather see jj playing the pf for streaks than either marion or q. jj has the best combo of sturdy frame and height (6'8 or 6'7 - so equal to or greater than marion). he also does not shy away from contact like marion.

but in reality i'd rather see NONE of these guys in the pf slot. that's just a mismatch that places our defense at an extreme disadvantage.

My preference would be to not play any of these guys, but i think that Q has more of a PF game when compared to the others. I hope we dont have to discuss this anymore. I hope we get a big body.

 

[dbUNIT16]

The point is that it doesn't matter whether Q is a 2,3, or 4. Either way Amare said he's not going to place center. PERIOD!

 

[George O'Brien]

The point is that it doesn't matter whether Q is a 2,3, or 4. Either way Amare said he's not going to place center. PERIOD!

No, Amare said he doesn't want to START at center or put in major minutes. He is not afraid to do it, but knows that it is not good to do for extended periods.

BTW, he is absolutely right.

 

[NJYAJ09]

why are we worrying about who can play the 4? Amare will take up almost all of it, and Vroman can eat up the rest. We need an extra center so Vroman or more importantly Amare wont play center.

 

[Joe Mama]

why are we worrying about who can play the 4? Amare will take up almost all of it, and Vroman can eat up the rest. We need an extra center so Vroman or more importantly Amare wont play center.

I haven't seen Mr. Vroman play yet, but I think it's a mistake to counsel on a second-round, somewhat light rookie to play second string power forward. Amare Stoudemire still hasn't shown that he can avoid foul trouble regularly.

Joe Mama

 

[George O'Brien]

I haven't seen Mr. Vroman play yet, but I think it's a mistake to counsel on a second-round, somewhat light rookie to play second string power forward. Amare Stoudemire still hasn't shown that he can avoid foul trouble regularly.

Joe Mama

I have a hard time believing that Zarko will be strong enough to play inside, but I think he will get minutes there by default if no one else is added. Don't you just love the idea of your 6'11" guy on the perimeter handling the ball and the 6'5" guy in the low block?