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College Player of the Year Impresses Suns


By Dustin Krugel, Suns.com
Posted: May 25, 2003
If the NBA Draft was based purely on production, David West would be one of the top selections in next month’s draft.

Of course, there’s a whole bunch of other factors, including potential, and that’s why the 6-8 Xavier forward, who was the Associated Press National Player of the Year and the runner-up to Texas guard T.J. Ford in the voting for the Wooden Award, may slip in the draft.

West, who participated in the Suns’ first pre-draft workout Sunday morning, will likely hear his name called out by NBA Commissioner David Stern somewhere in the mid-to-late first round. Phoenix owns the 17th overall pick in the draft.

“At times, you kind of think about it, but you just got to play,” said West, when asked if he’s surprised he’s not a surefire lottery pick after becoming the first three-time Atlantic 10 Player of the Year. “It’s been the same old pattern my whole life, man. People told me I couldn’t play in college. I was offered one collegiate scholarship and it was from Xavier.”

While West has been one of college basketball’s most consistent performers over the last four seasons at Xavier, some scouts label him a bit of a tweener, somewhere between a four and three. Even ESPN Insider Chad Ford lists West as the fifth-best small forward in the draft after dominating the collegiate level at power forward, where he averaged 20.1 points and 11.8 rebounds during his senior season.

“David West is a 6-8 kid who has four years of good schooling,” Suns Head Coach Frank Johnson said. “He plays well with his back back-to-the-basket. Maybe he can get bigger. He’s only 223 (pounds). Right now, I’d say he’s kind of in-between a three and four, but he surprised me certainly with his range.”

West said if he had a choice, he’d like to remain at power forward, the same position Suns’ NBA Rookie of Year Amaré Stoudemire plays.

“(The three position) is not my position,” said West, who is currently projected by NBAdraft.net to be the 24th overall pick by the Lakers. “(The four) is my bread and butter, but I’m just looking for an opportunity to show what I can do.”

West, who nearly turned pro last year, has many traits of a strong post player Johnson said, including gigantic hands.

“He has huge hands, huge hands,” the Suns coach said, holding up his own two hands. “When he came into my office and shook my hand, I was like, ‘Where did my hand go?’ They got lost. That’s always nice (for a big man). He’s a very good rebounder. He can score in the box. He’s physical.”

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In addition to West, the Suns welcomed Stanford guard Julius Barnes and two former Arizona State players, including forward Tommy Smith and guard Curtis Millage.

After a breakout performance at the Portsmouth Invitational pre-draft camp in April, Smith is considered a lock to be drafted in the second round and possibly the first round.

“I don’t know if I agree with them. I want to go in the first. That’s my goal,” said Smith, who averaged 11.2 points and 6.2 rebounds while leading the Pac-10 Conference in blocks (2.16 bpg) in his senior season.

After a slow start to his college career, the former North High School product (Phoenix) is considered a late bloomer, but his stock is clearly on the rise.

“He’s got a chance,” said Millage, who was a teammate of Smith’s for two season at ASU. “Tommy’s 6-10 and can run. He’s a shot blocker. Good defense. He’s not too strong (215-pounds), but you can work on that. You can’t work on speed and natural ability to jump up and down, but you can work on getting stronger and getting a little bit wiser by getting to know the game. That’s what he is doing right now.”

Smith said it would be a dream come true if the Suns grabbed him with the 17th pick.

“I pretty much grew up a Suns fan. I watched them when they had KJ and Charles Barkley,” admitted Smith, who attended a Stay in School event during the 1995 NBA All-Star Game when it was held in Phoenix.

While Millage was a late addition to Sunday’s workout after another player cancelled, the 6-2 guard made an impression on Johnson.

“Curtis Millage is just a tough kid,” he said. “I don’t know if he’ll get drafted, but he’s tough.”
 

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The suns "will not" be drafting David West on the 17th pick!

I do not think they will draft him even if they move down in the draft or aquire a 2nd round pick.
Not sure why they would bring him in unless it is a smoke screen move.

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They already have Alton Ford who is undersized.

Now I realize that West may be better (bigger?) than Alton Ford, but I do not think they will draft undersized again........


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Well he won't be bigger...

One guy from phxsuns.net saw a part of the workout and thought that West was Boris Diaw.
 

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Granted, West likes the 4 spot, but he would most likely learn to play the 3 on a team like the Suns. Alton Ford could NEVER play the 3.
 

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West seems to be a perfect fit for us. He can play some 4 and also some 3... We need a backup for Marion, and Amare... You can never have to many post guys. We only have one as it is...

With Amare playing the 4 and sometimes the 5, we could use West in alot of lineups...

I would like that pick...
 

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I am not sure that West can be an effective small forward.
He may not be quick enough to guard guys like Marion etc.

I guess I am just so sick of the tweener label.........I want someone that is big enough to play his position.
No more 6' 8 power forwards!

I would prefer other players that are on the board around the 17th pick.

PF-C--- Collison, Zarko, Pachulia.

SF-*--- Barbosa, Gaines, Moore, Outlaw.

I think the suns will draft the best at any position that is left when they pick, and hope it is not a tweener!!

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Originally posted by sunsfn

No more 6' 8 power forwards!

Yah no kidding, I mean the Elton Brand's (6'8", 265lb) of this league suck so much.....I cannot believe the clippers traded a 7 footer for that tweener! :D
 

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Yah no kidding, I mean the Elton Brand's (6'8", 265lb) of this league suck so much.....I cannot believe the clippers traded a 7 footer for that tweener!
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WHOOPS!!! :oops:

I guess when it comes to drafting, you draft the guy who can play the game!!! And, Elton Brand can certainly play the game........


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hehe

I agree on not drafting tweeneers, unless they have proven they can play. Elton Brand is undersized, Drew Gooden as well.....however they know how to play the game. I think West falls into the same catagory
 

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There are some tweeners that I wouldn't mind taking and some I don't want to take at all. If a player is a SG/SF or PF/C tweener then it's usually not a problem. If they are a short PG/SG or a short SF/PF tweener then I wouldn't take them.
 

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Everything that the Suns say is a lie right now. If they pump someone, they're not taking him. If "inside sources" say the Suns are interested in someone, its only to divert attention away from who they really want.

I predict that the Suns will take a player that most people do not think is worthy of the #17 pick.

That was exactly the reaction the Suns got from national media when they picked Amare, Marion, and Majerle.
 
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Stoudemire, Marion, and Majerle were all great athletes. Person and Finley were good */F prospects dropped in draft(Pierce, Butler, Lewis, Richardson, Mason as well). SF may be easiest position to fill but with Penny and Johnson capable of playing point and the best F/C's taken early in draft - the four corner offense, I wouldn't mind SF type.

4 corner line-up of:

Center
Marion
SF Draft Pick
Johnson
Penny

Tsakalidis can guard bigger centers, with Voskuhl and Outlaw on smaller, quicker centers and Stoudemire will see time here. Williams and Gugliotta 6 fouls that can shoot. The best quality could be at SF with 5 or 6 teams looking at PG and all teams interested in F/C. West and Lampe could be PF/SF types, with Hayes, Diaw, Ebi, Outlaw, Howard, Powell, and Smith at SF. Although Dwayne Wade is my favorite still hehe.
 

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JC wrote "Everything that the Suns say is a lie right now. If they pump someone, they're not taking him. If "inside sources" say the Suns are interested in someone, its only to divert attention away from who they really want."

If BC is any kind of a poker player he knows he has bluffed enough recently that people will be playing him to bluff - so it's time to cross them up and play it straight.

West sounds like a good candidate for the team, IMO. He might have some unfavorable matchups among the small forwards around the league but but he would probably have a good number of matchups that are favorable to him. Much better he than Langhi who never had a favorable matchup. He might give us a good guy to match up against someone like Malik Rose, who you recall gave us fits in the playoffs. Of course, it might well be that FJ won't know how to use him other than as a center but, heck, I'm already looking forward to the post-FJ era so I don't fret about that a whole lot.
 

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I was thinking that West sounds like a Malik Rose/Corey Williamson/Marcus Fizer kind of player. I do like that he was so dominant in college in every aspect of the game. This is the kind of player I called for the sums to draft a few weeks ago. Of course my drafting strategies change on a daily basis. :)

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Originally posted by JCSunsfan
Everything that the Suns say is a lie right now. If they pump someone, they're not taking him. If "inside sources" say the Suns are interested in someone, its only to divert attention away from who they really want.

I predict that the Suns will take a player that most people do not think is worthy of the #17 pick.

That was exactly the reaction the Suns got from national media when they picked Amare, Marion, and Majerle.

Agreed.

How about Nash at #15? Everybody wanted John Wallace including me.

Finley was a surprise pick as well. Nobody even mentioned him until the suns picked him. People thought he was second round material after horrible senior year when he shot something like 38% FG.

Person and Big Jake were the ones rated much higher than where they were picked before the draft. They are steals consider where they were picked.

Even Garrity at #19 was a very good find.

I can't really think of a first round pick by Suns passing a big time talent in the past 10 years. Well, maybe CJ over Prince? :) Or, the pick that they traded away for Lonley turned out to be Artest?

I think at #17, it is difficult to find size or a good PG at that spot. But SG/SF like Mason and Richardson are often available to pick/steal.
 

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With the rise of basketball as a world-wide sport, there is a great possibility of picking of a gem at #17. The talent pool is just that much larger. Someone is bound to go unnoticed.

It all depends on where the interest is going. Right now there is huge interest in the Europeans.

The Suns might consider a young European player who they allow to continue to develop his game overseas ala Ginobili.

Ebi might be of interest to the Suns. He seems to have that killer instinct that they like lately.

The Suns best addition this summer will probably come from a vet free agent. I'm still hoping Zo is healthy again and we can get him.

All the guessing and speculation is fun.
 

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regarding michael finley, i was jumpin' up and down when we drafted him (ask cheesebeef). i had watched him during the goodwill games and thought he was just the type of athlete we needed.

i'm curious as to the euros ('cuz i don't know much about them), but would be happy with west. i definitely see him in the rose-mold (but he'd have to gain even more weight/strength). i think he has more upside than corliss williamson.
 

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I think we should take a close look at Lampe. He is listed 7'0 240 everywhere. Rasho Nesterovic is 7'0 248, Vlade Divac is 7'1 260 and Lampe is just 18. So I think he could play some at the C spot and as a backup at PF and SF. That's exactly what the Suns need and I feel he will be the perfect complement to Amare.

He won't be available when we pick,but if the Suns really like him they could trade a future first rounder to move up in the draft and pray he falls to them. Brown ,Curry, Chandler helped us to get Amare , now it could be Tskitishvili the reason to have another great player with unlimited potencial.
 

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I dont mind what we do n this draft, the suns seem to allways make great picks, so I will trust what ever move they descide to make...


But as of right now, West seems good....


But a Center seems even better!
 

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