What is a successful season?

[Hollywood]

Ok. We all know that a Super Bowl victory is the goal. BUT, is that the only way for the season to be a successful one?

I have been saying for a while that I don't buy the 'window of opportunity' logic. Being the best team in the league doesnt guarentee anything. I think the goal should be to stay near the top...maybe in the top 6-8 and eventually champoinships come to you. It definately improves your odds.

That being said I think the playoffs should be the expectation. And as a long time fan having seen MANY 4-6 win seasons getting to the confrence championship game to me, is a successful season.

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[Jetstream Green]

This... not only do you have to be good, you have to be lucky and what you stated to me is success

 

[BigRedRage]

Ok. We all know that a Super Bowl victory is the goal. BUT, is that the only way for the season to be a successful one?

I have been saying for a while that I don't buy the 'window of opportunity' logic. Being the best team in the league doesnt guarentee anything. I think the goal should be to stay near the top...maybe in the top 6-8 and eventually champoinships come to you. It definately improves your odds.

That being said I think the playoffs should be the expectation. And as a long time fan having seen MANY 4-6 win seasons getting to the confrence championship game to me, is a successful season.

This was sent from my cell pjone so please excise any typeos or other errors.

A playoff win IMO

 

[b8rtm8nn]

A playoff win IMO

+1

 

[Brak]

Having grown up in the Bay Area when a certain football team ruled the gridiron for a LONG time, I can tell you that as the team improves to an elite level, expectations become very high, not just for ownership/management, but for the fan base as well. Fans get spoiled very quickly when a team puts up double-digit win seasons regularly. Suddenly, a championship is the only measure of success. Cardinals are headed in that direction, and quickly. Not a bad thing.

 

[Jim Otis]

Three seasons of BASK , 2013 ---- 10 and 6 , missed playoffs
2014 ---- 11 and 5 , lost WC game
2015 ---- 13 and 3 , won a playoff game , lost a conference championship game .( won the Div .)

To me , anything less than winning the conference would be a disappointing season . ONWARD WITH OUR JOURNEY , LET'S GET THE LOMBARDI TROPHY !!!

 

[RugbyMuffin]

That is relative to the person who asks the question, and the one answering it.

Last season, for me personally, was a successful season, other fans on this board refuse to say a season is successful unless the team wins the Super Bowl.

Thus it is relative with no correct answer.

Since it is a business, as long as I am entertained, and getting my money's worth, then the season is successful.

 

[Dude]

Ok. We all know that a Super Bowl victory is the goal. BUT, is that the only way for the season to be a successful one?

I have been saying for a while that I don't buy the 'window of opportunity' logic. Being the best team in the league doesnt guarentee anything. I think the goal should be to stay near the top...maybe in the top 6-8 and eventually champoinships come to you. It definately improves your odds.

That being said I think the playoffs should be the expectation. And as a long time fan having seen MANY 4-6 win seasons getting to the confrence championship game to me, is a successful season.

This was sent from my cell pjone so please excise any typeos or other errors.

I would agree with a young QB. We are a window team only because are "Good" QB is old. It's so hard to get a good QB or win without one. We need to win a SB with CP this year or next or it's over for this team as is.

 

[Hollywood]

Having grown up in the Bay Area when a certain football team ruled the gridiron for a LONG time, I can tell you that as the team improves to an elite level, expectations become very high, not just for ownership/management, but for the fan base as well. Fans get spoiled very quickly when a team puts up double-digit win seasons regularly. Suddenly, a championship is the only measure of success. Cardinals are headed in that direction, and quickly. Not a bad thing.

This is why I ask the question. 10 years ago making the playoffs would be a GREAT season. Obviously that has changed

That is relative to the person who asks the question, and the one answering it.

Last season, for me personally, was a successful season, other fans on this board refuse to say a season is successful unless the team wins the Super Bowl.

Thus it is relative with no correct answer.

Since it is a business, as long as I am entertained, and getting my money's worth, then the season is successful.

Of course its relative with no correct answer. (Although there are definately wrong answers) All of sports is like that.

And I can see your point as one of my favorite seasons (maybe even #1) was the '98 playoff season. So many nail biting fights to the finish. So much fun that year.

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[NeverSayDieFan]

At the end of the year...

EVERY team is disappointed...except ONE! What I'm hoping for, and I think it's very realistic, is a competitive team that's in the Super Bowl-discussion. I am very happy with today's Cardinals...unlike the past where we'd be 3-6 at the 1/2 way point and frantically calculating the 72 things needed for us to get in the play-offs!

GO CARDS!

Mark

 

[TJ]

Anything less than a Lombardi is a failure at this point.

This is one of the most talented, well-coached teams in the NFL. This is the mentality of those in the organization, so we might as well parallel our expectations to theirs.

 

[cardpa]

I was a season ticket holder for 9 years to an indoor soccer team, the Harrisburg Heat. One season they went 17-23 but got into the playoffs. They made it through 2 rounds before being knocked out. That felt like a successful season. Another year they went 28-12 and got knocked out in the first round. That felt like a less successful season even though they had a much better record.

 

[Mitch]

1. Winning the division.
2. Making the playoffs.
3. Earning a home game in the playoffs.
4. Winning the conference championship.
5. Winning the Super Bowl.

The 2015 Cardinals earned 3 of the 5. That's a very successful season, albeit not completely successful.

 

[SoCal Cardfan]

Anything less than a Lombardi is a failure at this point.

This is one of the most talented, well-coached teams in the NFL. This is the mentality of those in the organization, so we might as well parallel our expectations to theirs.

Agree 100%

If you asked me in the early to mid 90's... .500 or better was a smashing success.

After 1998... A playoff birth was a successful season in my eyes.

After 2008..... I finally understood why my friends who were fans of the Steelers/49rs/Cowboys, Packers etc... Were sorely disappointed with anything less than the Lombardi.


Given the players and coaching staff we have in place, anything short of a SB win... is nothing but another punch in the nads.

 

[kerouac9]

Anything less than a Lombardi is a failure at this point.

This is one of the most talented, well-coached teams in the NFL. This is the mentality of those in the organization, so we might as well parallel our expectations to theirs.

This. Basically, if this team misses the playoffs, it's a catastrophe. Not winning a playoff game would be a failure. Not making the Super Bowl would be a disappointment.

If this team bows out in the NFC Championship game again without much of a fight, people are going to start whispering about the roster (not the coaching staff or front office, but the roster) needing a shakeup. It'll be much easier to say farewell to Fitz and Palmer if it feels like the team as currently constructed has plateaued.

I disagree with the idea that you win 10 games a year and a championship "comes to you." That's what happened with the Dungy Bucs and it never happened. It's happened with the Chargers for a L-O-N-G time—with Phil Rivers and Drew Brees.

 

[SoCal Cardfan]

I disagree with the idea that you win 10 games a year and a championship "comes to you." That's what happened with the Dungy Bucs and it never happened. It's happened with the Chargers for a L-O-N-G time—with Phil Rivers and Drew Brees.

*Marty Schottenheimer nods in agreement..... albeit, somewhat reluctantly*

 

[Cheesebeef]

Anything less than a Lombardi is a failure at this point.

This is one of the most talented, well-coached teams in the NFL. This is the mentality of those in the organization, so we might as well parallel our expectations to theirs.

Completely agree. Bruce has raised the bar. Now he's got to clear it.

I can't freaking wait for football season!!!!

 

[Stout]

Completely agree. Bruce has raised the bar. Now he's got to clear it.

I can't freaking wait for football season!!!!

+1

 

[Crimson Warrior]

Hmmm. Playing in the NFC conference finals (like last year), would do it for me. That's a great run for any particular year, and there's too much luck involved in a season to ask for more than that.

You see, being a Sooner fan has given me some perspective on being a fan of a perennially good team.

 

[SissyBoyFloyd]

General Disappointment = Not winning the Super Bowl

A Week of Swearing (Damn It to Hell) = Not winning a Road Playoff Game

Heartbreak & Tears = Not winning all Home Playoff Games

Disgust & Frustration = Not making the Playoffs

 

[Covert Rain]

Completely agree. Bruce has raised the bar. Now he's got to clear it.

I can't freaking wait for football season!!!!

I think actually it all started with Whisenhunt. You heard from the players and the media how his presence changed the culture not only in the locker room but around the Cards personnel. Then Arians came in and took it to another level. As you stated now he needs to clear it.

I don't think culture or attitude in the locker room is what is holding the team back any longer. I think we cleared that hurdle.

 

[Cardiac]

I fully agree with this and would add that Michael B. gets a ton of credit for the culture change.

 

[Dr. Jones]

General Disappointment = Not winning the Super Bowl

A Week of Swearing (Damn It to Hell) = Not winning a Road Playoff Game

Heartbreak & Tears = Not winning all Home Playoff Games

Disgust & Frustration = Not making the Playoffs

Mine was.....
Win Division.....Bye......NFC Title......Super Bowl

But I think I like yours more.

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

Whether a season is successful or not depends completely on the expectations that we as fans and the team themselves put on the team. If expectations are to win a SB than anything less is going to be considered an unsuccessful season. If a team was absolutely terrible the year before than the expectations may only be to see the team making strides in the right direction and in that case simply being 8-8 or 9-7 might be considered a "successful season" in that situation.

If we were to put a blanket number on it for all teams in general than I would say making the playoffs or maybe winning a playoff game would be considered "successful".

 

[NJCardFan]

I'm not bent on win totals. 10-13 will be a successful season. Reason being, look at the Panthers last year. The 2007 Patriots. This year's Warriors. The 2011 Phillies. All of these teams fell all over themselves trying to attain a certain number of regular season wins only to fail the ultimate goal(Panthers, Patriots, & Warriors failed in the championship round). So, my wish for the regular season is at least 10 wins and go into the playoffs healthy. That's something we didn't have last season. A trip to the NFCCG to me would be a successful season. Anything short of that save for not making the playoffs at all, won't make a disappointing season per se, but it won't be a season to be celebrated.