What is our Cap situation next year?

[EndZone]

Just wondering...

 

[Krangodnzr]

I would think we will have around 7 million to spend, but that's being conservative.

If we were to cut a few players, namely Clement and Starks, we would have quite a bit more to spend, though we would have to spend a good chunk of it to replace Starks.

Maybe JasonKGME (if he's around), Russ, Bach, or one of the other detail guys will know...

 

[Russ Smith]

Originally posted by Krangthebrain
I would think we will have around 7 million to spend, but that's being conservative.

If we were to cut a few players, namely Clement and Starks, we would have quite a bit more to spend, though we would have to spend a good chunk of it to replace Starks.

Maybe JasonKGME (if he's around), Russ, Bach, or one of the other detail guys will know...

Aj last week said Jurecki was estimating about 10 million, don't think that included rookie pool but not sure. That puts 7 million in the ballpark for sure.

I think we'll see some cap relief, I expect a guy like Emmitt to be gone, today I still think Blake will be back but that could change depends how he handles the last 3 games if he's not playing as is likely going to be the case. I think Clement and Starks are almost not worth releasing, don't have AC's contract numbers but my recollection is he got a good bonus.

I think a reasonable guess is we'll have about 10-12 million to work with when all is said and done. The initial figure will probably be higher because of our own FA's.

 

[pinnacle]

krang and russ...I think if we cut blake - it will hurt our cap for next year - so I concur that he will probably not be cut. I think he signed 3 year deal - but maybe his signing bonus was so small that it will not matter (not sure on this one).

If we cut emmitt - it would not help us much - as it is the last year of his contract. His signed a 2 year deal (I think) and I what did he get - a $3 mil signing bonus? not sure..but that is $1.50 mil per year for cap purposes - so the $1.50 mil counts next year whether he plays or not (numbers not exact - for example only)..If emmitt walks away - then maybe the rules are different - not sure...

I think starks would not help us (from a cap perspective) if we cut him next season...it would help us the next year - he had a sizeable signing bonus that would have to be accelerated if we cut him - so I doubt we do...especially with barrett essentially being gone..

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Does it matter? The last year we had the most cap space and couldn't get the best players to come here and started the season 12 mil under the cap.Now, if a new staff and GM come in then maybe our cap space could matter.If Graves stays we'll probably bring in some high profile FA's watch them leave town saying how much they loved their visit and that the Cards are looking to turn it around and then sign with someone else who is more agressive in their contract offer.Then we'll draft another bust DL in round 1 and get Craig Krenzel in the 5th round and hope he's the QB of the future.Remember,we're the team that took Tony Sacca in round 2.It's sounds bleak and negative but that's pretty much how the Cards have operated in the past.Why would this year be any different?

 

[pinnacle]

cbus: as you say - a new coach would help get a guy or two..no one will come here with the current group.

on another note - perhaps next year when guys come to town we have learned our lesson and can make them offers sooner than the old "48 hours to make an offer" strategy I heard during the past offseason. Not sure this really cost us anyone in reality (holliday and colvin were not signing here - period) but I think it did cost us John Thorton. Thorton was on the radio when he was here - and he said he wanted to sign here - his wife loved arizona and they were ready to go..but we did not make him an offer the same day..he went to the bengals and they put him in a room and would not let him leave until he signed. we kind of wanted him - but by the time we got the offer ready - he had already signed elsewhere.

 

[Russ Smith]

Originally posted by pinnacle
krang and russ...I think if we cut blake - it will hurt our cap for next year - so I concur that he will probably not be cut. I think he signed 3 year deal - but maybe his signing bonus was so small that it will not matter (not sure on this one).

If we cut emmitt - it would not help us much - as it is the last year of his contract. His signed a 2 year deal (I think) and I what did he get - a $3 mil signing bonus? not sure..but that is $1.50 mil per year for cap purposes - so the $1.50 mil counts next year whether he plays or not (numbers not exact - for example only)..If emmitt walks away - then maybe the rules are different - not sure...

I think starks would not help us (from a cap perspective) if we cut him next season...it would help us the next year - he had a sizeable signing bonus that would have to be accelerated if we cut him - so I doubt we do...especially with barrett essentially being gone..

Blake got 3 years 7.5 million, this year he took home 3.5 in bonus and salary. My guess is the salary is 2 and the bonus was 1.5. So if you cut him you eat 1 million in bonus and save 2 million in salary 1 million total savings. can't sign a replacement for that so it's really not worth cutting him unless he just doesn't want to be here and makes that clear.

Starks unsure, I think he and AC both have too much bonus for cutting them now to make sense. Emmitt's deal supposedly is 2 years, 8 million with a 3 million bonus but I don't think they ever made that official. If that's true, you eat 1.5 by cutting him, and save 2.5 in salary again about 1 million. I think if he retires we can assign the bonus hit onto the current year but I'm not certain of that(I THINK I read that somewhere recently).

interesting, while searching for Emmitt's contract details I came across an article explaining why he didn't go to Tampa, he said there was a major power struggle with Gruden and McKay. Gruden wanted Emmitt, McKay didn't, Emmitt wanted to be a Buc but said we wanted him, they were split, so he took our offer. McKay said even the NFL minimum offer would be pointless and Emmitt would be a distraction.

I think we'll see some savings here and there to get us to 10-12 but that's about it.

I need details on AC's contract I may be overestimating his bonus.

 

[Northern Card]

Originally posted by Krangthebrain
I would think we will have around 7 million to spend, but that's being conservative.

If we were to cut a few players, namely Clement and Starks, we would have quite a bit more to spend, though we would have to spend a good chunk of it to replace Starks.

Maybe JasonKGME (if he's around), Russ, Bach, or one of the other detail guys will know...

I tend not to make predictions. Too often they haunt.

But... I will venture that on opening day 2004... CLEMENT will be the starting right tackle and STARKS the starting left corner of the ARIZONA CARDINALS .

 

[Krangodnzr]

Originally posted by Northern Card
I tend not to make predictions. Too often they haunt.

But... I will venture that on opening day 2004... CLEMENT will be the starting right tackle and STARKS the starting left corner of the ARIZONA CARDINALS .

You're probably right.

Frankly, both should be cut. But with this team, what should happen and what does happen are entirely different realities.

 

[Tangodnzr]

.....or maybe having some different coaches here would result in their more playing up to their potential.

 

[SECTION 11]

I'd like to see what this team can do under a quality coaching staff.

 

[ajcardfan]

Because of our cap situation, I really doubt either Starks or Clement would be cut until after training camp. If then, new coach or not.

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

Can someone please explain to me why we should cut Starks if he is healthy?

 

[SweetD]

Originally posted by MaoTosiFanClub
Can someone please explain to me why we should cut Starks if he is healthy?

His unwillingness to be the leader on D. CUT HIS ASS

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

Originally posted by SweetD
His unwillingness to be the leader on D. CUT HIS ASS

Who cares? If we cut him, we'll have to absorb that hit on the cap as well as sign a new CB, possibly two. At this point I'm more concerned w/ talent and physical abilities than whether he's a leader or not.

 

[kerouac9]

Originally posted by SweetD
His unwillingness to be the leader on D. CUT HIS ASS

He apparently WAS the leader on D last preseason (before 2002), and then he was hurt this offseason and most of 2002. I don't think that there's a lot of problems there. I whought Russ or someone saw him hanging with the other members of the secondary last training camp at Oregano's or something.

Starks isn't the second coming of Deion Sanders, but he's still the best Corner we have, by far. AC is still probably the best RT we have. I agree with Section that I would like to see what a professional coaching staff with more than utterly transparent motivational technique would be able to do with our highly-rated players.

 

[BACH]

Can't find anything about next year's cap number.

Clements "hit number" is 1.8M, so either 1.8 or 2x 900,000 if he's cut after June 1st.

Starks "hit number" is 3M and can be spread over one or two years depending on when he's cut.

 

[Russ Smith]

Originally posted by kerouac9
He apparently WAS the leader on D last preseason (before 2002), and then he was hurt this offseason and most of 2002. I don't think that there's a lot of problems there. I whought Russ or someone saw him hanging with the other members of the secondary last training camp at Oregano's or something.

Not me I'm not local. I thought Mac was unhappy with him before the knee anyways because he was having chronic injury issues. Hopefully he'll be healthy but I wouldn't bank on it.

What's scary to me is that game yesterday didn't really even faze me, I've almost come to expect that on the road.

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

BTW in case some of you guys were wondering about why I've been jocking Chris McAlister as a #1 CB w/ Starks as #2 for so long, here's a good article on him from pasquarelli. The numbers speak for themselves. Also if he were franchised and we signed him to an offer sheet, would we have to give up this 2004's #1 pick or 2005's?

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=pasquarelli_len&id=1680685

 

[RugbyMuffin]

I think Starks gets another shot with worse case scenerio Hill and him splitting time.

See My Santa Wish list.

Who should be cut and who should be kept.

Peace


Gilmore, R.Davis, Clement. CUT

 

[arthurracoon]

Originally posted by SECTION 11
I'd like to see what this team can do under a quality coaching staff.

ditto