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# That Curt Schilling takes yet another shot at the Sox' arch-nemesis, Alex Rodriguez, in an upcoming edition of Sporting News. ``People in the media and fans don't get the look that we get on the field,'' he says. ``There are things he's done and said that I've heard I've seen that I have a huge problem with, and I think other guys do, too.'' The article examines why A-Rod is the most disliked player amongst his peers.

From Ben Maller Rumors and Notes.
 

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YOu mean other than choking again, on the big stage, against your hated rivals by not being able to handle a routine DP ground ball?

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Is anybody else really tired of the Yankes-Red Sox? I love seeing Yanks' fans squirm and all, but not if it means every bandwagon Red Sox fan gets to act like they're God's chosen people.

And the beanball war basically being waged by the Sox is ridiculous and very unprofessional. Hopefully RJ puts one in Varitek's ear in their next series.
 

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MaoTosiFanClub said:
And the beanball war basically being waged by the Sox is ridiculous and very unprofessional. Hopefully RJ puts one in Varitek's ear in their next series.

It's obvious you didn't watch any of the games. None of the pitches that hit batters even looked remotely intentional.
 

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Cardinal Bob said:
It's obvious you didn't watch any of the games. None of the pitches that hit batters even looked remotely intentional.
Um, I didn't need to watch the game because I know who was throwing these beanballs and who they were aimed at. Professional pitchers, especially ones with the control of Timlin, Wells, and Halama don't just accidentally hit batters five times in one series. And I'm sure it's merely a coincidence that all five beanballs hit only Giambi and Jeter because they were all accidental too, right? Sorry, but your homerism is getting the best of you.
 
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MaoTosiFanClub said:
Is anybody else really tired of the Yankes-Red Sox? I love seeing Yanks' fans squirm and all, but not if it means every bandwagon Red Sox fan gets to act like they're God's chosen people.

And the beanball war basically being waged by the Sox is ridiculous and very unprofessional. Hopefully RJ puts one in Varitek's ear in their next series.

ESPN Sportscenter is having a party in their pants on this series. 20 minutes of the opening on Yanks / Red Sox. WhAt are the other 3o teams doing? :shrug:
 

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MaoTosiFanClub said:
Is anybody else really tired of the Yankes-Red Sox? I love seeing Yanks' fans squirm and all, but not if it means every bandwagon Red Sox fan gets to act like they're God's chosen people.

You are my new hero. :notworthy
 

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MaoTosiFanClub said:
Is anybody else really tired of the Yankes-Red Sox? I love seeing Yanks' fans squirm and all, but not if it means every bandwagon Red Sox fan gets to act like they're God's chosen people.
The overblown media coverage is getting really old... especially when ESPN feels like they need to "educate us" about the importance, history, and intensity of the rivalry... There are other matchups that are as interesting as this one for the opening series.
 

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MaoTosiFanClub said:
Um, I didn't need to watch the game because I know who was throwing these beanballs and who they were aimed at. Professional pitchers, especially ones with the control of Timlin, Wells, and Halama don't just accidentally hit batters five times in one series. And I'm sure it's merely a coincidence that all five beanballs hit only Giambi and Jeter because they were all accidental too, right? Sorry, but your homerism is getting the best of you.

My advice? Try and actually watch the games before making assinine comments like this.

Wells and Halama, both lefties (and that is key here) hit Giambi on the elbow with curve balls. Giambi was standing practically ON the plate and made no effort to get out of the way...which is against the rules, but makes complete sense because A) he wears Bonds-type armor on his right elbow, B) a curve isn't likely to hurt that much anyhow cuz it's not thrown at top velocity, and C) makes sense to take one for the team. You can't even find one Yankee that thinks any of those pitches (two by Wells on Sunday, one by Halama on Tuesday) were intentional. I know Clement hit Jeter on Tuesday as well, but again, you won;t find one Yankee who's saying it was intentional.

Yesterday, Timlin hit Jeter with the first pitch he threw - a slider he tried to get in on Jeter (who also likes to dive out over the plate, especially when a pitch looks like it's on the outside part of the plate. But that's neither here nor there). Timlin admitted that he seemed to have more movement on his pitches than usual as he warmed up, and Joe Torre said that he didn't think it was intentional and that he thought Timlin may have been distracted by Womack on first base.

Do you really think Timlin is trying to hit Jeter with one out and a man on first in the 8th inning of a 2-2 game?!?!? I mean really???? If so, then how stupid are you? Do you understand baseball? Nobody would throw at a batter in that situation!

But as I said, if you'd actually WATCH a game before commenting on it, then you wouldn't come off looking as uninformed as you just have.

I understand that other fans across the country and sick of Red Sox-Yankees, Yankees-Red Sox all the time. If you're not a fan of either team, why would you care? I think ESPN goes over the top (what else is new) with their coverage as well.

As far as Red Sox fans getting all uppity and loud after winning a WS, I think we deserve it. I'm 41 years old and have been listening to Yankee fans trash talking virtually all my life (there was a lull in the 80s when the Yankees sucked every year)...and until last year, I couldn't even open my mouth. I had no answer. Now that the Sox finally won a championship after so many heartbreaks, and did so not only by beating their nemesis and arch-rival Yankees, but beating them with the greatest comeback in baseball history, then ********* I'm gonna give some of it back...IN SPADES! And I'm gonna feel damn good doing it!

Enjoy the 2005 season.
 

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As far as Red Sox fans getting all uppity and loud after winning a WS, I think we deserve it. I'm 41 years old and have been listening to Yankee fans trash talking virtually all my life
For sure!

I did a back to back weekend thing near the end of last season, catching the Red Sox series at Yankee Stadium followed by the last two regular season games at Fenway against the Yankees. It was soooo much more fun at Fenway, that I'm heading back for all three regular season games this year in Boston with the Yankees.

Fans are intense in both places, but the Yankee fans in general were much more arrogant (winning all those championships seems to give them an inflated view)

I ended up sitting next to a Yankee fan at Fenway, who jokingly asked if I was "lost" when seeing that I was wearing a St. Louis Cardinals cap with a Dbacks polo shirt. My response: "I've been a Yankee hater ever since the mid 1950's, so I feel right at home here." He then admitted that he might be the guy "in the wrong place."
 

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Hilarious. So you're going to tell me Halama, Wells, and Timlin, (three guys who in almost 400 innings in 2004 walked only 66 batters) "accidentally" plunked 4 guys in less than 9 innings. Get real, the Sox like throwing up and in on the Yanks and really could care less if the ball hits them or not. All you have to do is look at the HBP numbers by the Sox against the Yanks recently to verify that. Pedro going to the Mets will help decrease the incidents, but to chalk them up to mere accidents is pretty naive.

Geez, it sounds like you are the one who knows very little about baseball. If you did you'd know that the overwhelming majority of hit batters (especially when the pitcher is a vet not known for control problems) are due to 'message' pitches, whether the batter is plunked or not. Wells threw Giambi up and in to get him off the plate yesterday. Giambi didn't budge and the ball hit him. Next AB, Giambi again didn't budge and Wells plunked him again. I understand that's part of the game but to pawn it as Giambi's fault is pretty ridiculous.

And as far as the Yankees not talking about it, that means absolutely nothing. Only rarely will you see a manager or player talking about another team intentionally drilling someone to the media because ballplayers like to keep those things mostly in-house. And I really can't blame the Sox for throwing at the Yanks. Varitek isn't a moron so he knows how plunkng A-Rod and the ensuing melee fired up his team last year so I can see how giving it a try in 2005 is worth a shot.

PS - Oh, and A-Rod is a douche who is everything that players like Jeter, Varitek, Ortiz, and Matsui aren't. He will never make the big play and he will never be a consumate leader. It should be a rule for Sox fans to give thanks to Selig every Thanksgiving for not letting the Manny-ARod swap go through.
 
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Pitching inside and deliberately throwing at a hitter are two drastically different things...but I savvy baseball fan such as yourself knew that, didn't you?
 

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PS - Oh, and A-Rod is a douche who is everything that players like Jeter, Varitek, Ortiz, and Matsui aren't. He will never make the big play and he will never be a consumate leader. It should be a rule for Sox fans to give thanks to Selig every Thanksgiving for not letting the Manny-ARod swap go through.


LOL! I agree! with all of it.

I don't begrudge Boston fans another few weeks of joy - I recall that it took halfway through the 2002 season for us here to get over the glare of our own post-WS glow. It's a fabulous experience, let 'em wallow in it for awhile.

However, the media is going to pump the Sox-NYY rivalry up until it cuts off sunlight leading to mass extinctions - but that's what they do with every friggin' thing, from sports to Popes, to Persistent vegetative States.
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