What's your Cardinals Dream Draft?

MoeIsBetter

SPA Co-Commishioner
Joined
Feb 19, 2008
Posts
1,250
Reaction score
26
Location
Surprise, AZ
Before reading, I used http://www.draftcountdown.com/features/Value-Chart.php for my Trade Value Chart. My best possible scenerio goes:

Trade with Cowboys and drop back to 18th (picking up extra 2nd and 3rd round). Cowboys may be looking to move up and get a DE since their switching to a 4-3.

1st Round - 18 (Cowboys): Chance Warmack OG Alabama - I know a lot of people think he's going to go relatively early, but guards just don't get drafted that high. Everyone thought David DeCastro was going early last year and he stayed on the board till 24.

2nd Round - 38: Eddie Lacy RB Alabama - You want to get a RB? Go to the place that pops them out better than anybody else. The line is not going to open up holes like we want the very first year. A speed back will take a pounding. Get a workhorse that can take the beating and still manage to get you yards.

2nd Round - 47 (Cowboys): Eric Reid SS LSU - Would love to see him and Patrick Peterson form a strong SS/CB combo. Some people will be down on his play last season, but the kids been a stud 3 years now (most notably the 2011 season). Like him a lot more than I did Rashad Johnson coming out of college.

3rd Round - 69: Landry Jones QB Oklahoma - The team wants to give Kolb another season, but we don't want to be left with complete crap if Kolb doesn't work out. Draft a QB every year like Keim said and get a guy that for every 3 TD's threw an average of 1 INT. Much better to spend a 3rd on Jones than a 2nd on Wilson when you're not getting much difference in talent.

3rd Round - 80 (Cowboys): Kyle Long OT Oregon - Keep bolstering up the O-Line. Our tackles in Potter and Massie seemed like they got better as the year went on. And we have a returning Levi Brown. Let Brown and Potter fight for the LT spot and bring in another Tackle to push Massie. What I like about Long? Played in up-tempo system, blocked great for Barner and Mariota this season, and shows quick feet (much like brother Chris Long DE St. Louis Rams). Plus I'd love to see brother vs brother 2x a year.

4th Round - 100: Brandon Jenkins OLB Florida State - Went out after week 1 with a broken foot and didn't play a single snap afterwards. He had a huge 2010 year, decent 2011 year, and hardly played in 2012. He was supposed to be a 1st round talent, but will likely fall. Would love the Cards to pick him up in the 4th if he's still available.

5th Round - 137: Blaize Foltz G TCU - The TCU line had a GREAT 2011, averaging over 200 yards on the ground and 440 yards total per game. Last year they weren't as good, but the talent there wasn't as good either. Blaize had a good 2012 season, making the All-Big 12's second team. Was hurt early on but came on really strong towards the end of the year.

6th Round - 169: Jake Stoneburner TE Ohio State - Was arrested before the season started, didn't see many opportunities this year, but is 6'5, 250 lbs., and runs a 4.4 40. Wouldn't mind taking a 6th round flyer on him.

7th Round - 201: Aaron Tipoti DT Cal - 6'2, 275 lbs. Has played DT at Cal but will switch to DE in the NFL. Liked him a lot when I got to see him play. Not a guy that will show up on a lot of stat sheets, but made it very easy for other players to get in the backfield (which is what we need from a 3-4 DE).

Now that I've told you what my draft fantasy is, tell me yours! Let's get some positive vibes on the board!
 
Last edited:

kerouac9

Klowned by Keim
Joined
Feb 14, 2003
Posts
38,425
Reaction score
29,837
Location
Gilbert, AZ
I like these threads, but the inevitable question: why do the Cowboys want to trade up with us, and for whom?

That's a pretty long want to fall for a guy who's generally predicted to go at least 10 spots higher.
 

Jetstream Green

Kool Aid with a touch of vodka
Joined
Feb 5, 2003
Posts
29,478
Reaction score
16,654
Location
San Antonio, Texas
I want Warmack at 7 and find a way to move up and take Tyler Wilson in the first, but since this is my dream draft...we take him in the second.
 

DoTheDew

Registered
Joined
Dec 8, 2007
Posts
2,967
Reaction score
0
That would be a nice draft but I just don't think Warmack falls that far.
 
OP
OP
MoeIsBetter

MoeIsBetter

SPA Co-Commishioner
Joined
Feb 19, 2008
Posts
1,250
Reaction score
26
Location
Surprise, AZ
I like these threads, but the inevitable question: why do the Cowboys want to trade up with us, and for whom?

That's a pretty long want to fall for a guy who's generally predicted to go at least 10 spots higher.

Their moving to a 4-3. One of the top two DE's should be available.
 
OP
OP
MoeIsBetter

MoeIsBetter

SPA Co-Commishioner
Joined
Feb 19, 2008
Posts
1,250
Reaction score
26
Location
Surprise, AZ
That would be a nice draft but I just don't think Warmack falls that far.

Everyone said same thing about DeCastro. DeCastro went at 24 last year.

Edit: Walterdraft has him going at 16 right now. Taking him at 18 isn't completely far fetched IMO.
 

Snakester

Draft Man
Joined
Sep 14, 2002
Posts
5,460
Reaction score
2,245
Location
North Carolina
I want one of two guys in the first. Either Luke Joekel or Jarvis Jones. In the second we take Tyler wIlson and trade back up into the second round to take Eddie Lacy. In the third we take Tank Carridine.
 

Diamondback Jay

Psalms 23:1
Joined
Feb 28, 2004
Posts
4,910
Reaction score
1
Location
Mesa
WalterFootball Drafts have Warmack going 16 and 18. I honestly can't see him falling past the Rams at 16 to be honest though.

Also, not dogging you, but Dallas would be better suited standing pat and getting Barkevious Mingo of LSU. Even IF they move up to 7, in this draft, there's a very good chance Moore, Jones and Werner are off the board. In fact, it wouldn't shock me to see them wind up getting picked in three of the first five picks.
 

Diamondback Jay

Psalms 23:1
Joined
Feb 28, 2004
Posts
4,910
Reaction score
1
Location
Mesa
I want one of two guys in the first. Either Luke Joekel or Jarvis Jones. In the second we take Tyler wIlson and trade back up into the second round to take Eddie Lacy. In the third we take Tank Carridine.

I'd love to see Arizona get Joeckel, but with as outright poor as Philadelphia's OLine is, I'm almost certain if he's there at 4, he's their pick.
 

RugbyMuffin

ASFN IDOL
Joined
Apr 30, 2003
Posts
30,485
Reaction score
4,877
Dream?

1 - Dan Marino
2 - Walter Jones
3 - Walter Jones
4 - Nate Newton
5 - Nate Newton
6 - Dermonti Dawson
7 - Reggie White


Oh yeah.

LT - Walter Jones
LG - Nate Newton
OC - Demonti Dawson
RG - Nate Newton
RT - Walter Jones

Seriously...... I mean seriously. If you are going to dream, then dream big.

You could run a QB keep for 5 yards a clip with that O-Line.
 
Last edited:

kerouac9

Klowned by Keim
Joined
Feb 14, 2003
Posts
38,425
Reaction score
29,837
Location
Gilbert, AZ
Their moving to a 4-3. One of the top two DE's should be available.

Maybe, but they need offensive line help more than they need players on defense. If they move up, they're likely to take Warmack themselves. Remember: they ardently pursued Leonard Davis not so long ago.
 

Chopper0080

2021 - Prove It
Joined
May 15, 2002
Posts
28,374
Reaction score
40,554
Location
Colorado
With Arians...

1-Chance Warmack-OG

2-Whatever QB Arians wants-QB

3-Travis Frederick-C

4-Dion Simms-TE

5-Joe Kruger-DE

6-Kiko Alonso - ILB

7-Quanterus Smith-OLB

Dream.
 
Last edited:

TruCard

Banned
BANNED BY MODERATORS
Joined
Nov 20, 2012
Posts
272
Reaction score
0
Location
Mesa
Before reading, I used http://www.draftcountdown.com/features/Value-Chart.php for my Trade Value Chart. My best possible scenerio goes:

Trade with Cowboys and drop back to 18th (picking up extra 2nd and 3rd round). Cowboys may be looking to move up and get a DE since their switching to a 4-3.

1st Round - 18 (Cowboys): Chance Warmack OG Alabama - I know a lot of people think he's going to go relatively early, but guards just don't get drafted that high. Everyone thought David DeCastro was going early last year and he stayed on the board till 24.

2nd Round - 38: Eddie Lacy RB Alabama - You want to get a RB? Go to the place that pops them out better than anybody else. The line is not going to open up holes like we want the very first year. A speed back will take a pounding. Get a workhorse that can take the beating and still manage to get you yards.

2nd Round - 47 (Cowboys): Eric Reid SS LSU - Would love to see him and Patrick Peterson form a strong SS/CB combo. Some people will be down on his play last season, but the kids been a stud 3 years now (most notably the 2011 season). Like him a lot more than I did Rashad Johnson coming out of college.

3rd Round - 69: Landry Jones QB Oklahoma - The team wants to give Kolb another season, but we don't want to be left with complete crap if Kolb doesn't work out. Draft a QB every year like Keim said and get a guy that for every 3 TD's threw an average of 1 INT. Much better to spend a 3rd on Jones than a 2nd on Wilson when you're not getting much difference in talent.

3rd Round - 80 (Cowboys): Kyle Long OT Oregon - Keep bolstering up the O-Line. Our tackles in Potter and Massie seemed like they got better as the year went on. And we have a returning Levi Brown. Let Brown and Potter fight for the LT spot and bring in another Tackle to push Massie. What I like about Long? Played in up-tempo system, blocked great for Barner and Mariota this season, and shows quick feet (much like brother Chris Long DE St. Louis Rams). Plus I'd love to see brother vs brother 2x a year.

4th Round - 100: Brandon Jenkins OLB Florida State - Went out after week 1 with a broken foot and didn't play a single snap afterwards. He had a huge 2010 year, decent 2011 year, and hardly played in 2012. He was supposed to be a 1st round talent, but will likely fall. Would love the Cards to pick him up in the 4th if he's still available.

5th Round - 137: Blaize Foltz G TCU - The TCU line had a GREAT 2011, averaging over 200 yards on the ground and 440 yards total per game. Last year they weren't as good, but the talent there wasn't as good either. Blaize had a good 2012 season, making the All-Big 12's second team. Was hurt early on but came on really strong towards the end of the year.

6th Round - 169: Jake Stoneburner TE Ohio State - Was arrested before the season started, didn't see many opportunities this year, but is 6'5, 250 lbs., and runs a 4.4 40. Wouldn't mind taking a 6th round flyer on him.

7th Round - 201: Aaron Tipoti DT Cal - 6'2, 275 lbs. Has played DT at Cal but will switch to DE in the NFL. Liked him a lot when I got to see him play. Not a guy that will show up on a lot of stat sheets, but made it very easy for other players to get in the backfield (which is what we need from a 3-4 DE).

Now that I've told you what my draft fantasy is, tell me yours! Let's get some positive vibes on the board!
Good draft. I think we go Tyler Wilson in the second though and get our RB in the third, Montee Ball or Marcus Lattimore.
 
OP
OP
MoeIsBetter

MoeIsBetter

SPA Co-Commishioner
Joined
Feb 19, 2008
Posts
1,250
Reaction score
26
Location
Surprise, AZ
Maybe, but they need offensive line help more than they need players on defense. If they move up, they're likely to take Warmack themselves. Remember: they ardently pursued Leonard Davis not so long ago.
You can't use logic when discussing Jerry Jones K9 lol. Let's go over how Jerry Jones mind works:

I just got a new toy (Kiffen). I don't want a new toy with no batteries (DE) so I go get the best, most awesome battery I can find but have to be careful because we are already close to the CAP. I know! I'll do exactly what I did to get Claiborne! Time to move up in the draft! :D
 

BW52

Registered
Joined
May 14, 2002
Posts
5,043
Reaction score
1,904
Location
crestwood,Ky
dream draft

Can`t say its a dream draft...............drafting about the way i think things will happen.
Cards
RD 1. Jarvis Jones OLB Georgia-because Joeckel is gone
RD 2. Mike Glennon QB SC -because Wilson already gone
RD3 Montee Ball RB Wisconsin-add to the stable
RD 4. Nico Johnson ILB Alabama-
RD 5. Craig Roh DE Michigan-solid DE
RD 6 Braxston Cave C ND-Another option besides Sendlein or Wedige
RD 7 Anthony McCloud DT Florida state-a widebody for Dline
 

Chopper0080

2021 - Prove It
Joined
May 15, 2002
Posts
28,374
Reaction score
40,554
Location
Colorado
Before reading, I used http://www.draftcountdown.com/features/Value-Chart.php for my Trade Value Chart. My best possible scenerio goes:

Trade with Cowboys and drop back to 18th (picking up extra 2nd and 3rd round). Cowboys may be looking to move up and get a DE since their switching to a 4-3.

1st Round - 18 (Cowboys): Chance Warmack OG Alabama - I know a lot of people think he's going to go relatively early, but guards just don't get drafted that high. Everyone thought David DeCastro was going early last year and he stayed on the board till 24.

2nd Round - 38: Eddie Lacy RB Alabama - You want to get a RB? Go to the place that pops them out better than anybody else. The line is not going to open up holes like we want the very first year. A speed back will take a pounding. Get a workhorse that can take the beating and still manage to get you yards.

2nd Round - 47 (Cowboys): Eric Reid SS LSU - Would love to see him and Patrick Peterson form a strong SS/CB combo. Some people will be down on his play last season, but the kids been a stud 3 years now (most notably the 2011 season). Like him a lot more than I did Rashad Johnson coming out of college.

3rd Round - 69: Landry Jones QB Oklahoma - The team wants to give Kolb another season, but we don't want to be left with complete crap if Kolb doesn't work out. Draft a QB every year like Keim said and get a guy that for every 3 TD's threw an average of 1 INT. Much better to spend a 3rd on Jones than a 2nd on Wilson when you're not getting much difference in talent.

3rd Round - 80 (Cowboys): Kyle Long OT Oregon - Keep bolstering up the O-Line. Our tackles in Potter and Massie seemed like they got better as the year went on. And we have a returning Levi Brown. Let Brown and Potter fight for the LT spot and bring in another Tackle to push Massie. What I like about Long? Played in up-tempo system, blocked great for Barner and Mariota this season, and shows quick feet (much like brother Chris Long DE St. Louis Rams). Plus I'd love to see brother vs brother 2x a year.

4th Round - 100: Brandon Jenkins OLB Florida State - Went out after week 1 with a broken foot and didn't play a single snap afterwards. He had a huge 2010 year, decent 2011 year, and hardly played in 2012. He was supposed to be a 1st round talent, but will likely fall. Would love the Cards to pick him up in the 4th if he's still available.

5th Round - 137: Blaize Foltz G TCU - The TCU line had a GREAT 2011, averaging over 200 yards on the ground and 440 yards total per game. Last year they weren't as good, but the talent there wasn't as good either. Blaize had a good 2012 season, making the All-Big 12's second team. Was hurt early on but came on really strong towards the end of the year.

6th Round - 169: Jake Stoneburner TE Ohio State - Was arrested before the season started, didn't see many opportunities this year, but is 6'5, 250 lbs., and runs a 4.4 40. Wouldn't mind taking a 6th round flyer on him.

7th Round - 201: Aaron Tipoti DT Cal - 6'2, 275 lbs. Has played DT at Cal but will switch to DE in the NFL. Liked him a lot when I got to see him play. Not a guy that will show up on a lot of stat sheets, but made it very easy for other players to get in the backfield (which is what we need from a 3-4 DE).

Now that I've told you what my draft fantasy is, tell me yours! Let's get some positive vibes on the board!

Warmack doesn't get past the Titans IMO. Deep defensive draft, big need on the interior line, and young offensive players to protect and make successful. Personally, I think we take Warmack and they get Cooper.
 

CtCardinals78

ASFN Addict
Joined
Nov 2, 2006
Posts
7,256
Reaction score
2
Round 1 Chance Warmack-G Alabama
Round 2 Mike Glenon QB NC State
Round 3 DJ Fluker OT/G Alabama
Round 4 Mike Gillislee RB Florida
Round 5 Nico Johnson ILB Alabama
Round 6 Emory Blake WR Auburn
Round 7 Kyler Reed TE Nebraska
 

Cbus cardsfan

Back to Back ASFN FFL Champion
Joined
May 14, 2002
Posts
21,467
Reaction score
7,641
I like Stoneburner as a later round pick. To say he was arrested is kind of misleading. Barney Fife "arrested" him in a small village adjacent to Dublin, Ohio, which is where the Memorial Golf Tournament is held. Barney got him for urinating outside.
 

BW52

Registered
Joined
May 14, 2002
Posts
5,043
Reaction score
1,904
Location
crestwood,Ky
I like Stoneburner as a later round pick. To say he was arrested is kind of misleading. Barney Fife "arrested" him in a small village adjacent to Dublin, Ohio, which is where the Memorial Golf Tournament is held. Barney got him for urinating outside.

Why use a draft pick on a TE? Stoneburner can be a UDFA after he gets potty trained.
 

juza76

ASFN Icon
Joined
Sep 5, 2009
Posts
13,798
Reaction score
9,618
Location
milan-italy
taylor wilson after great performance at senior bowl will be a safe top 7 pick
 
Last edited:
Top