Whisenhunt - Cardinals have "2 Headed" QB Monster!

[AZCardsWin]

I know the QB situation is the main topic of conversation this week but I think Coach Whisenhunt's "innovative" idea of using both QBs might end up being the one of the greatest coaching moves the NFL has seen in a long time. Think about it- Leinart is a young lefty, who can move out of the pocket, scramble if needed, and make most passes. He just lacks experience. Kurt is a veteran righty, can run a perfect no- huddle offense, and honestly since he started wearing gloves on both hands, is passing as accurate as any QB in the league right now. What he did Sunday would even make Peyton Manning take notice. Those passes were like radar.

So I support the "2" headed Cardinal QB monster! A nightmare for defensive coordinators to prepare for. An innovative "outside the box" idea that could bring the Bidwill family (and us diehard fans) that elusive first Superbowl championship. We can win this division this year. Our playoffs start this week vs Pittsburgh!

Tim in NJ

 

[freebyrd]

hell lets line em both up and the backfield the defense won't know who were snapping to, talk about confusing
lets just win baby, 60 seconds away from 3and0

 

[Gambit]

There should only be one cook in the kitchen.

It will end badly if he tries to make this a regular thing.

 

[Jasper]

Whis could do a Jarius Jackson-Elway or Neil O'Donnell-Kordell fiasco and play them every other down.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

and now the koolaiders are trying to convince themselves of a new hairbrained scheme . . . . "two-headed" monsters only end up eating themselves as qb's in the nfl.

 

[Folster]

two headed monster = neither one is good enough.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

lets' just do like Arkansas and line up McFadden at QB.Oh wait, we don't have him yet.

 

[JeffGollin]

and now the koolaiders are trying to convince themselves of a new hairbrained scheme . . . . "two-headed" monsters only end up eating themselves as qb's in the nfl.

Attaboy, Ouchie. When you disagree with someone, call them names.

Since the issue won't go away, let's break it down:

CONS:

- Warner played much better in the last game. To sit him means we don't have our best guy out there starting.

- You can't serve two masters.

PROS:

- Different situations call for different weapons.

- If you have 12 guys on offense who can help your team at various times during a game, why not find a way to play them all instead of sitting one of them. (Isn't this what Belicheck does at NE - if a player has a unique talent, he finds creative ways to use him)

- The game tape comparing Warner's play to Matt's play has to be an invaluable teaching tool to help a young, developing QB.

- Potential division inside the locker room (i.e. a Warner Camp vs. a Leinart Camp) is lessened because both QB's are being given the opportunity to see playing time.

 

[Gambit]

Attaboy, Ouchie. When you disagree with someone, call them names.

Since the issue won't go away, let's break it down:

CONS:

- Warner played much better in the last game. To sit him means we don't have our best guy out there starting.

- You can't serve two masters.

PROS:

- Different situations call for different weapons.

- If you have 12 guys on offense who can help your team at various times during a game, why not find a way to play them all instead of sitting one of them. (Isn't this what Belicheck does at NE - if a player has a unique talent, he finds creative ways to use him)

- The game tape comparing Warner's play to Matt's play has to be an invaluable teaching tool to help a young, developing QB.

- Potential division inside the locker room (i.e. a Warner Camp vs. a Leinart Camp) is lessened because both QB's are being given the opportunity to see playing time.

I disagree strongly with your last point. If anything, it will increase locker room trouble, because the team will want 1 guy or the other to be in there full-time. Right now, they'd probably want Warner in.

Down the road, they will wish Leinart had had more time. The coach is supposed to plan for the team, not just to win now, but down the road. Whis needs to pick one and start him, not keep switching in and out. It's not an easy decision and I'll support the Cards whichever one they go with. It should be Matt, but if it's Kurt, it's Kurt. I just don't want it to be Matt/Kurt.

 

[40yearfan]

I disagree strongly with your last point. If anything, it will increase locker room trouble, because the team will want 1 guy or the other to be in there full-time. Right now, they'd probably want Warner in.

Down the road, they will wish Leinart had had more time. The coach is supposed to plan for the team, not just to win now, but down the road. Whis needs to pick one and start him, not keep switching in and out. It's not an easy decision and I'll support the Cards whichever one they go with. It should be Matt, but if it's Kurt, it's Kurt. I just don't want it to be Matt/Kurt.

You might feel that way about it, but what about M. Bidwill? I think he expects to make the playoffs this year and I'm sure Whis is in complete agreement. We need to do whatever it takes to win. You never know what the future will bring in the way of injuries or players getting tired of losing and moving on to other teams. Everything has been set up to win now and it's time to act.

 

[Arizona's Finest]

It hasn't worked in the NFL before but with the right approach, coaching and QB's I don't see how we can dismiss it so summarily.

Please expain to me the difference in college and in the SEC (Fla and LSU come to mind) that would DIRECTLY CORRELATE to the NFL. Whether you think the DC's are too good or what - I want to hear it.

Maybe the reason it hasn't worked is it didnt have the right approach, coaching, and QB's in the mix. Or maybe the restof the team didn't buy into both players. That doesnt seem to be the case here. Both guys bring something very different to the table.

Who knows? But just because it hasn't worked before is NOT an explanation to why it can't be done here.

*As an aside my obvious preference is that Leinart goes out on Sunday and throws for 4 TDS and to a HOF career. But you gotta play the cards your dealt. (no pun intended)

 

[Gambit]

You might feel that way about it, but what about M. Bidwill? I think he expects to make the playoffs this year and I'm sure Whis is in complete agreement. We need to do whatever it takes to win. You never know what the future will bring in the way of injuries or players getting tired of losing and moving on to other teams. Everything has been set up to win now and it's time to act.

If Whis wants to start Warner, then he should start Warner. I don't agree with it but I will support the team. I think Whis wanted Warner in camp but didn't want to make the switch without Leinart losing the job. Which was a mistake on Whis' part if true.

No split-time QBs, though. That's all I ask. Leinart can learn from watching Kurt, although nothing is better than experience. There is a reason that the dual-QB system never really happens in the NFL. It's bad for the team.

 

[40yearfan]

If Whis wants to start Warner, then he should start Warner. I don't agree with it but I will support the team. I think Whis wanted Warner in camp but didn't want to make the switch without Leinart losing the job. Which was a mistake on Whis' part if true.

No split-time QBs, though. That's all I ask. Leinart can learn from watching Kurt, although nothing is better than experience. There is a reason that the dual-QB system never really happens in the NFL. It's bad for the team.

I agree. I just think Warner should be running the show right now.

 

[CardLogic]

Using two QB's has worked before in the NFL. Tom Landry did it for practically an entire season with Craig Morton/Roger Staubach. Morton was the vet, Staubach the newcomer. Eventually (in the playoffs, I believe) the Cowboys went exclusively with Staubach.

It can be done, and it can be done successfully!

 

[AZCB34]

It is way more likely to fail than succeed...otherwise, it would be the norm rather than the exception.

The goal should be to win now...that should ALWAYS be the goal. The future will take care of itself. Whisenhunt's job is to win games during the season, not build up some guys confidence. That is done in the offseason.

I think people here may be breaking this down too simplistically right now. Nobody REALLY knows if Warner gives this team the "best chance to win now" over Leinart. The reason is we do not know if the old fumbling, bumbling Warner will re-emerge or not. We also don't know if Leinart will continue to fail.

Whisenhunt must choose one over the other for the good of the team overall.