Who’s your favorite non 1st rounder?

[Solar7]

Teams draft according to their wants and needs, not ours.

And if a team wants and needs a particular CB or RB, they will jump ahead of us.

...That's why teams move up, to jump in front of other teams about to select the player they covet. Why else do you think they move up? They want to pay more?

 

[overseascardfan]

Boogie Basham, who may actually sneak into first round.

 

[splitsecond]

Alright, I’ve jumped on the Najee Harris bandwagon at 16. I can’t tell you how many times last year I remember thinking to my myself - if we only had a competent running game it would open things up so much more. I know a lot of that falls on the oline’s shoulders, but having a back like Harris will help compensate. Besides a legit speed receiver, an RB like him is the missing piece on offense. One of the little nuggets I’ve come across while coming to this conclusion:
“Per Bob McGinn of The Athletic, an anonymous NFL scout called Harris the best player in the draft and brought up Derrick Henry's name.

"Reminds me of Derrick Henry," the scout told McGinn. "I have a feeling he'll run in the 4.5 [in the 40] because he runs away from people in that league [the SEC], and that league I know has speed. Only negative I had was he absorbs punishment because he likes to run through tacklers instead of going around them."

I was on the bandwagon already (unless Horn is there, then we go Javonte in Rd 2), but this solidified it.

https://nypost.com/2021/04/08/najee-harris-wants-espns-todd-mcshay-to-kiss-my-a/

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Teams draft according to their wants and needs, not ours.

Exactly why no teams jumped the exact picks ahead of us for Watson and mahomes . . . oh wait. A smart GM knows other teams needs and uses them to his advantage.

maybe Quebec is Keim!

 

[QuebecCard]

And if a team wants and needs a particular CB or RB, they will jump ahead of us.

...That's why teams move up, to jump in front of other teams about to select the player they covet. Why else do you think they move up? They want to pay more?

Our perceived needs have been evident for months, and the signing of both Butler and Alford means we're not entirely dependent on the draft, nor is it clear who we actually covet. The RB need can be answered, perhaps not to your satisfaction, beyond the first round and if there's someone we particularly fancy, we too can make a move. Perhaps, sinful to say, the FO is satisfied with Edmunds and the others. We don't have long to wait to find out.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Our perceived needs have been evident for months, and the signing of both Butler and Alford means we're not entirely dependent on the draft, nor is it clear who we actually covet.

signing a guy who you’ve forced to take a major pay cut, is on the wrong side of 30, hasn’t played in TWO YEARS and was AWFUL the last time he did play THREE YEARS AGO should have zero bearing on what needs are dependent at the draft for CB.

counting on Alford to be anything but camp fodder is a recipe for disaster.

 

[QuebecCard]

signing a guy who you’ve forced to take a major pay cut, is on the wrong side of 30, hasn’t played in TWO YEARS and was AWFUL the last time he did play THREE YEARS AGO should have zero bearing on what needs are dependent at the draft for CB.

counting on Alford to be anything but camp fodder is a recipe for disaster.

Have said on a few occasions that my hope is for Jaycee Horn at #16 and Javonte Williams in the second.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Have said on a few occasions that my hope is for Jaycee Horn at #16 and Javonte Williams in the second.

Right and solars point is that all the other teams wanting a cb and a rb know that about the cards too have more draft ammunition to jump ahead of keim to grab them.

 

[QuebecCard]

Right and solars point is that all the other teams wanting a cb and a rb know that about the cards too have more draft ammunition to jump ahead of keim to grab them.

I have no issue with how we used our draft ammunition, particularly a third for a Pro Bowl Centre.

Keim is free to trade 2022 draft assets to make a deal if need be. Teams do it regularly.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

I have no issue with how we used our draft ammunition, particularly a third for a Pro Bowl Centre.

Keim is free to trade 2022 draft assets to make a deal if need be. Teams do it regularly.

Right that’s called mortgaging your future to pay for the sins of the past.

I’m curious, are you a keim fan?

 

[QuebecCard]

Right that’s called mortgaging your future to pay for the sins of the past.

I’m curious, are you a keim fan?

No first-round picks:

LA Rams in 2021, 20, 19, 18, 17; Seattle SH in 2021, 17, 15, 14, 13; New England in 2020, 17, 16, 13; Kansas City in 2019, 18, 16; Indianapolis in 2020, 19 and there are other examples of this type of mortgaging for success.

I'm agnostic when it comes to Keim.

 

[QuebecCard]

signing a guy who you’ve forced to take a major pay cut, is on the wrong side of 30, hasn’t played in TWO YEARS and was AWFUL the last time he did play THREE YEARS AGO should have zero bearing on what needs are dependent at the draft for CB.

counting on Alford to be anything but camp fodder is a recipe for disaster.

Alford has grossed over $40m in his career so far.

That he's coming back for a $1m says that he believes in himself and has something to prove. I like that.

 

[Solar7]

Our perceived needs have been evident for months, and the signing of both Butler and Alford means we're not entirely dependent on the draft, nor is it clear who we actually covet. The RB need can be answered, perhaps not to your satisfaction, beyond the first round and if there's someone we particularly fancy, we too can make a move. Perhaps, sinful to say, the FO is satisfied with Edmunds and the others. We don't have long to wait to find out.

Well, the need won't be addressed if it's not in the 2nd round, it'll be some player we can't reasonably expect to contribute meaningfully, but whatever.

Keim is free to trade 2022 draft assets to make a deal if need be. Teams do it regularly.

If Bidwill is going to allow Keim to mortgage the futures of drafts he might not even be around for, Bidwill should go too.

Have said on a few occasions that my hope is for Jaycee Horn at #16 and Javonte Williams in the second.

And I'd be fine with/love this, but I think it's unrealistic to hope Williams will be there and we need to be as proactive as we can to best make it work.

Edit: Need a new iPad. Thing's touchscreen highlights and deletes words constantly.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Alford has grossed over $40m in his career so far.

That he's coming back for a $1m says that he believes in himself and has something to prove. I like that.

I like his mindset. I don’t like any reliance upon it.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Alford has grossed over $40m in his career so far.

That he's coming back for a $1m says that he believes in himself and has something to prove. I like that.

that he's coming back for 1 million says there was zero market for a guy who hasn't played in 2 years and was atrocious when he did play 3 years ago.

he's coming back with something to prove? great. he shouldn't be counted on for anything until he ACTUALLY proves he can even stay on the field at this point, much less be adequate on it.

 

[football karma]

If Bidwill is going to allow Keim to mortgage the futures of drafts he might not even be around for, Bidwill should go too.

lol

 

[QuebecCard]

that he's coming back for 1 million says there was zero market for a guy who hasn't played in 2 years and was atrocious when he did play 3 years ago.

he's coming back with something to prove? great. he shouldn't be counted on for anything until he ACTUALLY proves he can even stay on the field at this point, much less be adequate on it.

Three years ago he toughed through a calf strain. And I don't count on anyone until real bullets fly.

Don't know why you're dogging me on this.

 

[cardncubfan]

Exactly why no teams jumped the exact picks ahead of us for Watson and mahomes . . . oh wait. A smart GM knows other teams needs and uses them to his advantage.

maybe Quebec is Keim!

How do you know that Keim didn't try to trade up but was turned down? Was Keim quoted as saying that he didn't think anyone else would draft Mahomes or Watson so they just sat on their hands & waited for one to drop to them?

 

[cardncubfan]

Three years ago he toughed through a calf strain. And I don't count on anyone until real bullets fly.

Don't know why you're dogging me on this.

Don't take it personal. He just likes to argue. He should have been a lawyer like his brother.

 

[QuebecCard]

Don't take it personal. He just likes to argue. He should have been a lawyer like his brother.

Brother?

 

[cardncubfan]

Brother?

Cheese & Ouchie are brothers. Ouchie is a lawyer. Cheese is a debate champion.

 

[QuebecCard]

Cheese & Ouchie are brothers. Ouchie is a lawyer. Cheese is a debate champion.

OK, I now understand the tag team: In wrestling parlance the "Bitch and Moan" brothers.

 

[juza76]

Cheese & Ouchie are brothers. Ouchie is a lawyer. Cheese is a debate champion.

Do u think they have first round grades?

 

[Stout]

Do u think they have first round grades?

Eh, I'd make them Mr. Irrelevant and the penultimate to Mr. Irrelevant. Or at least top priority UDFAs

 

[Krusher kardinals]

What guy would you like the Cards to land after round 1.

mine is Pat Freiermuth, the TE from Penn St. Pitts is getting all the attention, and rightfully so, but Freiermuth is a great player.

He could be the Cards Kittle or Kelce. He’s that good a prospect. He’s big , athletic, great hands, can run after the catch, and can block. Plus, he’d fill a big hole on the Cards roster. It would be a steal to get him at 49.
Like I said in the mock I posted, when he was playing in 2019, he was as good a player I saw that year.

I agree baby gronk is great