who gets cut?

[Yuma]

The roster stands at 18 players, including the two-way contract of rookie George King and forward Darrell Arthur, who was reportedly expected to be bought out after being acquired from the Nets in the Jared Dudley trade.

Phoenix will need to cut down the roster to 15 players by the start of the regular season.

The Suns just resigned Isaiah Canaan. Assuming you don't sign a guy just to cut him, Canaan seems to maker the 15.

At 18, obviously cutting Darell Arthur gets you to 17. Assuming King plays mostly in Prescott, that gets you to 16. OK, odd man out is?

Is Darrell Arthur still with the team? Shaq Harrison? I don't know.

 

[AzStevenCal]

I suspect we'll be making a trade before the season starts. One or more of Chandler, Chriss, Bender, Warren, Reed and Daniels are the most likely players to be off the roster come opening day IMO. I'm counting Arthur as gone already and Harrison to hang around.

 

[Phrazbit]

Canaan's contract has no guarantees, I think he likely isn't on the final roster. King will probably be up north. Arther is gone.

I also think there is probably one more move made before the season starts.

 

[Mainstreet]

Arthur will bought out or used in a trade getting the Suns down to 17 players.

I'm additionally expecting the Suns to clear room on their roster to add other player when teams start trimming their rosters. I'm thinking the Suns will make at least a minor trade for another PG unless one is released.

 

[Hoop Head]

I would be very surprised if Arthur is on the regular season roster. He'll be bought out soon, if not used in another trade. They may wait until closer to training camp to let him go. He actually wouldn't be a bad player to keep if we weren't in need of freeing roster space. Don't get me wrong, I don't think he's a rotation player but he could be a decent 5th or 6th big in the lineup behind Ayton, Bender, Chriss, Chandler, and Holmes. Maybe they plan on having Holmes and Arthur compete for the final roster spot? That's a possibility for training camp.

I think we'll see something similar with our guards, with Canaan, Daniels, Harrison, and Reed all vying for roster spots. The position the Suns are in right now allows them to go into training camp and let everyone earn their spot on the team, which isn't a bad thing. It's not like competing for a starting job, it's competing to be an end of the bench/practice body.

I would be surprised if Chandler is on the roster next year, the more I think about it. Unless Igor really likes him, there's no reason to keep him around. I don't think he's been the mentor some have hoped he would be. Remember that Markieff went through his attitude issues while Chandler was here. As a vet and potential locker room leader, he should have helped keep that from becoming so public. Ever since then I've been a little leery of how much of a veteran leader he is. He didn't appear to help Len improve either. If we can trade him, great, but if needed I'd be fine with buying him out. It's not like he'd play in more than 60 games this season anyways.

 

[Mainstreet]

I would be very surprised if Arthur is on the regular season roster. He'll be bought out soon, if not used in another trade. They may wait until closer to training camp to let him go. He actually wouldn't be a bad player to keep if we weren't in need of freeing roster space. Don't get me wrong, I don't think he's a rotation player but he could be a decent 5th or 6th big in the lineup behind Ayton, Bender, Chriss, Chandler, and Holmes. Maybe they plan on having Holmes and Arthur compete for the final roster spot? That's a possibility for training camp.

I think we'll see something similar with our guards, with Canaan, Daniels, Harrison, and Reed all vying for roster spots. The position the Suns are in right now allows them to go into training camp and let everyone earn their spot on the team, which isn't a bad thing. It's not like competing for a starting job, it's competing to be an end of the bench/practice body.

I would be surprised if Chandler is on the roster next year, the more I think about it. Unless Igor really likes him, there's no reason to keep him around. I don't think he's been the mentor some have hoped he would be. Remember that Markieff went through his attitude issues while Chandler was here. As a vet and potential locker room leader, he should have helped keep that from becoming so public. Ever since then I've been a little leery of how much of a veteran leader he is. He didn't appear to help Len improve either. If we can trade him, great, but if needed I'd be fine with buying him out. It's not like he'd play in more than 60 games this season anyways.

With no disrespect to Chandler, I think a lot of his value comes from holding CAP space for next off season and as an expiring contract in a trade.

 

[BC867]

With no disrespect to Chandler, I think a lot of his value comes from holding CAP space for next off season and as an expiring contract in a trade.

How I would have liked to see Tyson come to the Suns in his prime, as he did to the Mavericks, when he was their missing piece to a championship. But I agree with you. Chandler has very little to give the Suns now.

 

[JCSunsfan]

With no disrespect to Chandler, I think a lot of his value comes from holding CAP space for next off season and as an expiring contract in a trade.

We are NOT trading Tyson as an expiring. We are in the free agent market ourselves. We need that expiring ourselves.

 

[SirStefan32]

Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if he gets bought out or waived, but he's not getting traded unless it's for a specific player that the Suns really want to trade for.

 

[Phrazbit]

In 16/17 Chandler was one of our most effective players but we didn't really start tanking until the 2nd half of the season. Last season the team nose dived straight out the gate and I think once the writing was on the wall Chandler went into cruise control and then was shut down for tanking reasons for much of the season.

I think/hope that we will see a player closer to the 16/17 Chandler. Still effective, a stud on the glass, making other bigs work on both ends and good for easy baskets when fed down low.

Barring a roster move, I think he's probably the 2nd best big on the team behind Ayton. Unless he's part of a BIG trade, I don't see him going anywhere. His value to us as an expiring deal makes him being shipped out mid-season to a contender pretty unlikely.

 

[AzStevenCal]

In 16/17 Chandler was one of our most effective players but we didn't really start tanking until the 2nd half of the season. Last season the team nose dived straight out the gate and I think once the writing was on the wall Chandler went into cruise control and then was shut down for tanking reasons for much of the season.

I think/hope that we will see a player closer to the 16/17 Chandler. Still effective, a stud on the glass, making other bigs work on both ends and good for easy baskets when fed down low.

Barring a roster move, I think he's probably the 2nd best big on the team behind Ayton. Unless he's part of a BIG trade, I don't see him going anywhere. His value to us as an expiring deal makes him being shipped out mid-season to a contender pretty unlikely.

If he was it was mostly due to how weak the other players were IMO. He had a couple of very good stretches and he was still able to defend the big slugs but for much of the season he couldn't rebound out of his space, couldn't keep up with the modern bigs and couldn't be counted on offensively. Maybe it was partially a lack of drive due to the realization we were going nowhere. But IIRC we'd had a brief surge right around the time we played the 2 games in Mexico and he looked old and tired from then until we shut him down.

I think his stats were better than his actual performance. And while I agree that he is probably still capable of being the second best big on the team but only if he's playing limited minutes and getting a lot of nights off. I just don't think his legs can hold up for a 65 game season even if he's playing backup minutes.

 

[Hoop Head]

How many games could Chandler play for the Suns this season? Everyone knows he'll need a lot of time off if they hope he's able to be productive when he is on the court. How does that effect him in practices though? If our backup C can't even make Ayton work hard in practice occasionally, why keep him? At best he'd play in 65 games for the Suns but how many practices would he take part in and actually put in real effort. I doubt he'd be able to do that all season at this stage.

 

[Phrazbit]

How many games could Chandler play for the Suns this season? Everyone knows he'll need a lot of time off if they hope he's able to be productive when he is on the court. How does that effect him in practices though? If our backup C can't even make Ayton work hard in practice occasionally, why keep him? At best he'd play in 65 games for the Suns but how many practices would he take part in and actually put in real effort. I doubt he'd be able to do that all season at this stage.

I doubt he will play starts minutes, him only playing 20 minutes a night will help stretch him. Also, I suspect he would have played a LOT more games the last 2 years if we were not tanking.

 

[AzStevenCal]

I doubt he will play starts minutes, him only playing 20 minutes a night will help stretch him. Also, I suspect he would have played a LOT more games the last 2 years if we were not tanking.

Sure but he did miss a lot of games when we hadn't quite made the tank leap. I think he's better suited to be a spot starter AND a spot backup but I don't think we can count on him for a full season.

 

[Mainstreet]

We are NOT trading Tyson as an expiring. We are in the free agent market ourselves. We need that expiring ourselves.

I'd say never say never. If the Suns get the right trade and need Chandler's contract to make it work it could happen. Do I think it's likely... no... but why slam the door on it.

If the Suns can get the right player via trade, they do not need to be a player in free agency.

 

[JCSunsfan]

If he was it was mostly due to how weak the other players were IMO. He had a couple of very good stretches and he was still able to defend the big slugs but for much of the season he couldn't rebound out of his space, couldn't keep up with the modern bigs and couldn't be counted on offensively. Maybe it was partially a lack of drive due to the realization we were going nowhere. But IIRC we'd had a brief surge right around the time we played the 2 games in Mexico and he looked old and tired from then until we shut him down.

I think his stats were better than his actual performance. And while I agree that he is probably still capable of being the second best big on the team but only if he's playing limited minutes and getting a lot of nights off. I just don't think his legs can hold up for a 65 game season even if he's playing backup minutes.

Tyson Chandler knows how to get numbers, especially rebounds. But his defense has been extremely poor. His feet are glued to the ground. He moves so slowly. With Tyson Chandler and Jared Dudley as our leaders and mentors, it is easy to see why this team was so horrible defensively. I am not sure I want Chandler near Ayton these days. He just doesn't play like he cares anymore.

 

[1tinsoldier]

Tyson Chandler knows how to get numbers, especially rebounds. But his defense has been extremely poor. His feet are glued to the ground. He moves so slowly. With Tyson Chandler and Jared Dudley as our leaders and mentors, it is easy to see why this team was so horrible defensively. I am not sure I want Chandler near Ayton these days. He just doesn't play like he cares anymore.

true. a workhorse at the end of his career is not the model this team needs now. the goal for this season has to be transitioning from the team with the most loses to a team with a winning mindset aiming for a winning record and a shot at the playoffs. That's what the signing of Ariza was about.

you wouldn't train a young thoroughbred on a fast track with an old stud that has one eye on the pasture