Why this franchise is in trouble.

[TruCard]

(at halftime on fox 10) I happened to catch some of a segment with Jurecki and LaCava on fox and what Jurecki said is just more of a reason for me to despise the leadership of the Arizona Cardinals.

"Mike wants someone who he can control, the Bidwills own the team and they want to run it".-Mike Jurecki

This is the problem with the Cardinals. The ownership does it for the family business, not for the fans. "Mike wouldn't hire a guy like Bill Polian which is why they will promote Keim".- Jurecki

People make the argument that Mike Bidwill is taking the team in a new direction. That he spends more money now. Well hell, he better spend some more money with all of those sellouts. The fact that Mike wouldn't hire Bill Polian because he wants someone who he can control irks me. Why wouldn't you want Bill Polian, a guy who can build a great franchise with expertise football knowledge and player evaluation? Mike wouldn't want that? Sounds Bidwillish to me.

 

[desertdawg]

Yup saw that. Drecky and Cava have definitely been the most vocal on calling people out as far as local butt kissing goes.

 

[azsouthendzone]

I happened to catch some of a segment with Jurecki and LaCava on fox and what Jurecki said is just more of a reason for me to despise the leadership of the Arizona Cardinals.

"Mike wants someone who he can control, the Bidwills own the team and they want to run it".-Mike Jurecki

This is the problem with the Cardinals. The ownership does it for the family business, not for the fans. "Mike wouldn't hire a guy like Bill Polian which is why they will promote Keim".-

I saw that whole segment and didn't hear any of that. Seriously. Maybe I didn't hear correctly but we saw two different interviews.

 

[desertdawg]

I saw that whole segment and didn't hear any of that.

LOL Drecky looked right at the camera in a camera solo, looked right at me and said that stuff.

 

[kerouac9]

Bill Polian did a great job getting a couple of Hall of Fame quarterbacks and riding them to lasting success. But Polian ran himself out of Indianapolis by promoting up his son, who squandered the team's draft resources for nearly a decade. Polian doesn't have a job now because he refused to fire his kid.

When you have a billion dollars, you can purchase your own NFL team and run it however you want. Michael Bidwill is the guy in charge; if he's going to be held responsible by the owner, then he needs to have say. Don't forget that Whisenhunt was chosen by Michael Bidwill; Rod Graves wanted Ron Rivera--because Rod Graves is an idiot.

I've met Michael Bidwill face to face, and I can say from my limited interactions with him that he's passionate about having this franchise get back to a competitive product. He spent what was necessary to get Kolb, even if that was a dumb choice.

 

[azsouthendzone]

LOL Drecky looked right at the camera in a camera solo, looked right at me and said that stuff.

Show the link from myfoxphoenix.com. I watched the whole interview and I didn't see that. Maybe I stepped out but either way it's Mike's team so even if he did who cares. He wants wins. He isn't controlling like Jerry Jones. If anything it's the opposite to a fault.

 

[TruCard]

I saw that whole segment and didn't hear any of that. Seriously. Maybe I didn't hear correctly but we saw two different interviews.

What's your favorite beer?

 

[TruCard]

Bill Polian did a great job getting a couple of Hall of Fame quarterbacks and riding them to lasting success. But Polian ran himself out of Indianapolis by promoting up his son, who squandered the team's draft resources for nearly a decade. Polian doesn't have a job now because he refused to fire his kid.

When you have a billion dollars, you can purchase your own NFL team and run it however you want. Michael Bidwill is the guy in charge; if he's going to be held responsible by the owner, then he needs to have say. Don't forget that Whisenhunt was chosen by Michael Bidwill; Rod Graves wanted Ron Rivera--because Rod Graves is an idiot.

I've met Michael Bidwill face to face, and I can say from my limited interactions with him that he's passionate about having this franchise get back to a competitive product. He spent what was necessary to get Kolb, even if that was a dumb choice.

I'm sure Mike is a cool dude. I'm not attacking his character but I am attacking his passion for Arizona. When I hear that he wouldn't hire a guy because he wants somebody who he can control, I hear about a guy who isn't in it for us, or the state of Arizona but the family business. This is why the Bidwills get scrutinized.

 

[GatorAZ]

Thank God we aren't hiring Polian. Also every owner has full control of the team. They have the final word. Graves and Whiz had as much control as any GM/HC combo in the league. Hell Whiz has more pull than SB winning coaches like Coughlin and Tomlin.

 

[TruCard]

I saw that whole segment and didn't hear any of that. Seriously. Maybe I didn't hear correctly but we saw two different interviews.

BTW, this was a segment at halftime of today's game. Not Fox Sports Tonight.

 

[kerouac9]

I'm sure Mike is a cool dude. I'm not attacking his character but I am attacking his passion for Arizona. When I hear that he wouldn't hire a guy because he wants somebody who he can control, I hear about a guy who isn't in it for us, or the state of Arizona but the family business. This is why the Bidwills get scrutinized.

I think that's a poor choice of words on Jurecki's part. Clearly Michael isn't pushing around Whis or maybe Keim. Who knows? In any organization, there's little question that the guy in charge is the guy who's signing the checks.

What Michael understands that his father didn't is that the family business makes more money when the team is competitive and all those luxury boxes are full. I'm not sure that Bill Bidwill ever really trusted the NFL's economic model, but Michael does. Michael's an aggressive guy; he wants to win--he wants to be recognized in the way that Jerry Colangelo gets recognized in this town.

If you really think that Jerry Jones or Bob Kraft give a crap about the states of Texas and Massachusetts versus the successes of their franchises, I don't know what to tell you.

 

[binkar]

I saw that whole segment and didn't hear any of that. Seriously. Maybe I didn't hear correctly but we saw two different interviews.

Haha maybe I'm crazy with you, but I watched both segments and didn't hear anything like that. I heard him talk about how pissed Michael was, but didn't hear anything about control. I must have missed that. That said, I haven't heard them getting overly involved in personelle decisions in the past.

 

[azsouthendzone]

BTW, this was a segment at halftime of today's game. Not Fox Sports Tonight.

Ah makes sense. I didn't pay attention at the half. Either way I would take it with a grain of salt. I love and respect Jurecki's insights but that comment how they need someone they can control is B.S. I mean come on they let Whiz run this ship into an iceberg. If they want some control, that can mean a lot of things. From all previous indications they entrusted Denny and Whiz with too much control so I can't really take any of this very serious. I trust Mike will make the right moves because unlike a lot of people involved I believe he does care and this is his legacy unlike some.

 

[desertdawg]

Show the link from myfoxphoenix.com. I watched the whole interview and I didn't see that. Maybe I stepped out but either way it's Mike's team so even if he did who cares. He wants wins. He isn't controlling like Jerry Jones. If anything it's the opposite to a fault.

I am a drink maker and not a link maker right now hombre. Tough season. Gonna have to take my word for it. Basically said the Owners didn't want to give up control and that's why the Keimster is in play. Drecky went hardcore, can't believe you missed that part. He gets Cava going too, pretty funny.

 

[azsouthendzone]

Haha maybe I'm crazy with you, but I watched both segments and didn't hear anything like that. I heard him talk about how pissed Michael was, but didn't hear anything about control. I must have missed that. That said, I haven't heard them getting overly involved in personelle decisions in the past.

Yeah I think there was some "paraphrasing" to say the least

 

[azsouthendzone]

I am a drink maker and not a link maker right now hombre. Tough season. Gonna have to take my word for it. Basically said the Owners didn't want to give up control and that's why the Keimster is in play. Drecky went hardcore, can't believe you missed that part. He gets Cava going too, pretty funny.

Lol. It's all good. Here's to a better future.

 

[desertdawg]

Yeah I think there was some "paraphrasing" to say the least

Nope. Cava and Drecky a liitle while after the game on channel 10. It happened, yall crazy.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

I'm sure Mike is a cool dude. I'm not attacking his character but I am attacking his passion for Arizona. When I hear that he wouldn't hire a guy because he wants somebody who he can control, I hear about a guy who isn't in it for us, or the state of Arizona but the family business. This is why the Bidwills get scrutinized.

So what's the excuse of the 31 other NFL teams, that Polian is still unemployed?

 

[clif]

Shocking! The owner wants someone he can control? You don't say?!? This isn't a non profit organization. This isn't a charity. This isn't a democracy. The Bidwills own the team. So getting upset because they run their business the way they do is a waste of time.

 

[sportznutt]

Bill Polian did a great job getting a couple of Hall of Fame quarterbacks and riding them to lasting success. But Polian ran himself out of Indianapolis by promoting up his son, who squandered the team's draft resources for nearly a decade. Polian doesn't have a job now because he refused to fire his kid.

When you have a billion dollars, you can purchase your own NFL team and run it however you want. Michael Bidwill is the guy in charge; if he's going to be held responsible by the owner, then he needs to have say. Don't forget that Whisenhunt was chosen by Michael Bidwill; Rod Graves wanted Ron Rivera--because Rod Graves is an idiot.

I've met Michael Bidwill face to face, and I can say from my limited interactions with him that he's passionate about having this franchise get back to a competitive product. He spent what was necessary to get Kolb, even if that was a dumb choice.

Yup, Polian is a bit over-rated.

 

[Reddog]

I'm sure Mike is a cool dude. I'm not attacking his character but I am attacking his passion for Arizona. When I hear that he wouldn't hire a guy because he wants somebody who he can control, I hear about a guy who isn't in it for us, or the state of Arizona but the family business. This is why the Bidwills get scrutinized.

I don’t buy this take, I think MJ's choice of words was misleading. Mike B has passion and like most business owners he does not want a manager that will try to undermine his authority even if he does give them full responsibility. Michael has earned his stripes with getting the stadium built and funded, getting Whiz here and getting things turned around. Now he deserves the chance to right the ship.

I personally think he has a challenge because Whiz is so stubborn. It would not surprise me if he wants to give Whiz another shot with the conditions discussed, however given Whiz's response to questions about his job yesterday ("I have a contract") I don't expect him to go gently onto the night so I can see them parting ways. The real test will be not letting Whiz drag out the decision so the Cards miss out on prospects they want.

Michael was a federal prosecutor and knows how to negotiate so I think he can handel himself. He is not some trust fund kid who inherited this job and doesn't know that the teams sucess on the field has a direct correlation to his business's bottom line and his reputation. This is not his father's same old Cardinals. That changes with the new stadium.

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

I think that's a poor choice of words on Jurecki's part. Clearly Michael isn't pushing around Whis or maybe Keim. Who knows? In any organization, there's little question that the guy in charge is the guy who's signing the checks.

What Michael understands that his father didn't is that the family business makes more money when the team is competitive and all those luxury boxes are full. I'm not sure that Bill Bidwill ever really trusted the NFL's economic model, but Michael does. Michael's an aggressive guy; he wants to win--he wants to be recognized in the way that Jerry Colangelo gets recognized in this town.

If you really think that Jerry Jones or Bob Kraft give a crap about the states of Texas and Massachusetts versus the successes of their franchises, I don't know what to tell you.

I agree, but I do question whether Mike is truly different from his father. A big reason that this team has made changes in the past 7 years or so has a lot to do with the new stadium and the increased revenue that has come with it. Granted Mike was the one that was really pushing for the new stadium or at least that's how I remember it.

 

[football karma]

if the key attribute for Mike B is having a football guy he can control:

Why fire Graves then? Isnt that Rod's supposed best quality?

 

[Duckjake]

So what's the excuse of the 31 other NFL teams, that Polian is still unemployed?

That Polian is 70 years old maybe? Not the best example for this topic.

 

[Totally_Red]

A lot of control devolved into Whis' hands after the Super Bowl run and we see how that has gone. The buck stops with the owner. He has a right to have final say on certain things short of micro-managing the roster. When Rod Graves and company were stumbling around and unable to re-sign Kurt Warner, it was Michael who stepped in and made it happen.

I'd rather have a hands-on owner who cares than a Georgia Frontiere or a Bill Bidwill who doesn't.