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What about the possibility of the salary cap being eliminated? Or are the Cardinals going to build from the draft.
Will the Cardinals have enough money to sign a player in free agency?
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Two things, first, with no salary cap teams will be able to keep their own players if they want to. Second, this year's free agent market will not be that great because teams will be able to lock up their best players. Anyways, Dansby and Rolle are IMO the best available LB & S available we should try and keep them in the fold. Draft whatever holes we have to fill.
They'll have
Dansby's $ - what we upgrade Boldin, Dansby's gone in my opinion, ; we'll hopefully build our defense up through the draft, and our OL, TE and STeams especially at KO returner! I'd like to go after the guy from Cleveland, the KO returner who we could trade for...Can you imagine starting at the 50 almost 1/2 the time because of your return game...?
Dansby's $ - what we upgrade Boldin, Dansby's gone in my opinion, ; we'll hopefully build our defense up through the draft, and our OL, TE and STeams especially at KO returner! I'd like to go after the guy from Cleveland, the KO returner who we could trade for...Can you imagine starting at the 50 almost 1/2 the time because of your return game...?
Rolle is not a FA next season
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Where did this thread come from. Just curious if anything brought it on or just random conversation.
1. They will have enough money, every team in the league will have enough money.
2. Free agency will outright stink this coming offseason. With it being uncapped the rules change. Instead of only being able to use one franchise tag teams can now use one franchise tag AND one transition tag, or two Transition tags. Meaning far fewer high profile guys in the free agent market. Plus restricted free agent rules change meaning far fewer unrestricted free agents on the market. There will be the fewest amount of free agents on the market then ever before.
3. With no cap also comes now spending limit. Teams are no longer forced to spend to a certain amount anymore. They can spend 25 mill if they want to and get away with it, they are no longer forced to spend to a certain percentage of the total cap. Total NFL salary will be at a all time low for this past CBA period. And most teams will spend less because of the economy and how would it look for teams to spend like mad during a new labor negotiation when the whole time the owners are telling the players they cant pay anymore money to them. It would be like a friend telling you they cant pay you the $100 they owe you as they drive away in their new luxury car.
4. In the uncapped year the top 8 teams are heavily restricted as to who they can get and how much money they can spend in free agency. Top 4 teams are even more heavily restricted. The gist of which being that team cannot sign another player unless they loss a player of equal value first. So the top 8 teams will pretty much not even partake in free agency at all. All they will be able to do is sign their own guys, trade, and the draft. Since its looking like we will be in that top 8, I suggest everyone here not get their hopes up of even signing a mid level free agent concerning the 2010 free agent period if it stays uncapped.
1. They will have enough money, every team in the league will have enough money.
2. Free agency will outright stink this coming offseason. With it being uncapped the rules change. Instead of only being able to use one franchise tag teams can now use one franchise tag AND one transition tag, or two Transition tags. Meaning far fewer high profile guys in the free agent market. Plus restricted free agent rules change meaning far fewer unrestricted free agents on the market. There will be the fewest amount of free agents on the market then ever before.
3. With no cap also comes now spending limit. Teams are no longer forced to spend to a certain amount anymore. They can spend 25 mill if they want to and get away with it, they are no longer forced to spend to a certain percentage of the total cap. Total NFL salary will be at a all time low for this past CBA period. And most teams will spend less because of the economy and how would it look for teams to spend like mad during a new labor negotiation when the whole time the owners are telling the players they cant pay anymore money to them. It would be like a friend telling you they cant pay you the $100 they owe you as they drive away in their new luxury car.
4. In the uncapped year the top 8 teams are heavily restricted as to who they can get and how much money they can spend in free agency. Top 4 teams are even more heavily restricted. The gist of which being that team cannot sign another player unless they loss a player of equal value first. So the top 8 teams will pretty much not even partake in free agency at all. All they will be able to do is sign their own guys, trade, and the draft. Since its looking like we will be in that top 8, I suggest everyone here not get their hopes up of even signing a mid level free agent concerning the 2010 free agent period if it stays uncapped.
overseascardfan
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Sorry 2011, but with an uncapped year we should lock him up along with Dockett. I really don't see why Dansby would want to leave, the top 8 teams will not be able to go after him so he can't go to a contender, unless the team doesn't want to pay him then he will be gone. I just can't see the FO not paying the guy to stay, they've paid him almost $20M the last couple of years with the frachise tag. I would rather keep this defense intact and add some youth through the draft. BTW, I would also keep Gandy, rookie OT's are almost never ready to start Day 1, at least extend him a couple of years to groom a replacement.
To Joe:
If an uncapped season rolls along and a given team is able to go nuts and buy $300 million dollars of total salary for players (per year) and then a new CBA is agreed upon with a $200M ceiling, will said team be forced to fall into compliance in one offseason, one year, or could it be prorated?
What happened when the cap was first enforced? Was everyone under it already?
If an uncapped season rolls along and a given team is able to go nuts and buy $300 million dollars of total salary for players (per year) and then a new CBA is agreed upon with a $200M ceiling, will said team be forced to fall into compliance in one offseason, one year, or could it be prorated?
What happened when the cap was first enforced? Was everyone under it already?
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I am not thinking much beyond the Cards v Titans
plenty of time for the offseason, when the offseason gets here
I am not thinking much beyond the Cards v Titans
plenty of time for the offseason, when the offseason gets here
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I was never a big believer in the free agency helping a team anyway. We have wasted a fortune over the years paying top dollar for so-called, can't fail players, that never played up to their press-clippings. I'd name a few but I forgot their names already. 
Not to say that you can't find a keeper once in awhile that slips below everyone's radar.
Not to say that you can't find a keeper once in awhile that slips below everyone's radar.
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The CARDINALS now under Head Coach Whiz are growing our own.We are taking draft picks and undrafted FA's and turning them into real players that are gonna end up starting for years.
Its the best and only sure way to succeed in this NFL.Plus your scouting staff has to be the tops in what they do.Like Having Joe S. working for your team.
We've seen some good drafts get even better as last years draft did'nt look like much at first but it met needs and the players are gonna all end up playing except for maybe the last one picked.You can't keep them all.
Drafts like that year in and year out and the CARDINALS will never be joked about ever again.
Tons of uncertainty of what will happen next season.We have quite a few players that are in strange senerio's.We'll find out soon enough once the season ends.I even think we'll know before the year is out how the NFL will approach next season cap wise and by playoff time we'll know which teams will be under tighter rules.
Its good the CARDINALS have players to move up into every slot we might lose someone except for maybe an ILB if we lose Dansby.Not sure about Highsmith just yet,but if Whiz thinks he can do it and we draft someone real high to back him up.Maybe we'll be okay by the time the rookie is ready.He may be ready early as we have one heck of a coaching staff.I'm also looking for great things from Cody Brown fighting with Will Davis next year to both be starters.I know Haggans will give one of em' the fight of his life.Don't know if Okeafor will return or not.
We need to have Hayes fully recover also.Two picks on the inside would'nt hurt,like we picked two on the outside last draft.Maybe even pick another this season.We also need an OLT unless Keith or H.Johnson is the answer Grimm has for the team.I can't wait to see.
Besides a top ILB that could possibly start my other dream draft pick would be a player like the Texas wr that would be our Wes Welker and would'nt have to be drafted that high either.Ask DuckJake who that player is if you don't already know from being a college football watcher.You should know.(shipley)I don't see any team using a first rounder on him or even a very high second rounder.Yet he has what we don't have in a very speedy awesome route runner with GREAT HANDS and quicks like a Wes Welker.
Many of you say NO WAY to a wr.It just my own personal opinion and I think this team could do wonders with the key reciever in the mix.We need more team speed as the saints,colts,patriots,vikings all have in the same position.Even though we have 3 recievers at this time.We'll probably lose Boldin after one year one way or the other and we'll have the player already to take over his spot.Hoping Doucet will one day grow a pair and fill the shoes he was drafted in the third round to fill.Look what Breaston is doing drafted in the 5th round.
Plus we need to give Garvin another shot next season at returnman.We need more team speed.This team is very hard not to love. Adding more depth is just SICK....When you have up and comers like Toler,H.Johnson,Keith,CC,Watson&Branch,Rashad Johnson,CodyBrown,Big Beanie Wells,THT,DRC,Highsmith,Latui,Yes Levi Brown and many more.Its also the vets that add the flavor in Hayes,A-Dub,Fitz,Q,Breaston,B.Patrick,Graham,Rackers,McFadden,Ware,Haggans,etc...
Whether we can keep Rolle,Dansby,Gandy,Leinart are all off season treasures for Whiz,Billy and Graves to work through.
Its the best and only sure way to succeed in this NFL.Plus your scouting staff has to be the tops in what they do.Like Having Joe S. working for your team.
We've seen some good drafts get even better as last years draft did'nt look like much at first but it met needs and the players are gonna all end up playing except for maybe the last one picked.You can't keep them all.
Drafts like that year in and year out and the CARDINALS will never be joked about ever again.
Tons of uncertainty of what will happen next season.We have quite a few players that are in strange senerio's.We'll find out soon enough once the season ends.I even think we'll know before the year is out how the NFL will approach next season cap wise and by playoff time we'll know which teams will be under tighter rules.
Its good the CARDINALS have players to move up into every slot we might lose someone except for maybe an ILB if we lose Dansby.Not sure about Highsmith just yet,but if Whiz thinks he can do it and we draft someone real high to back him up.Maybe we'll be okay by the time the rookie is ready.He may be ready early as we have one heck of a coaching staff.I'm also looking for great things from Cody Brown fighting with Will Davis next year to both be starters.I know Haggans will give one of em' the fight of his life.Don't know if Okeafor will return or not.
We need to have Hayes fully recover also.Two picks on the inside would'nt hurt,like we picked two on the outside last draft.Maybe even pick another this season.We also need an OLT unless Keith or H.Johnson is the answer Grimm has for the team.I can't wait to see.
Besides a top ILB that could possibly start my other dream draft pick would be a player like the Texas wr that would be our Wes Welker and would'nt have to be drafted that high either.Ask DuckJake who that player is if you don't already know from being a college football watcher.You should know.(shipley)I don't see any team using a first rounder on him or even a very high second rounder.Yet he has what we don't have in a very speedy awesome route runner with GREAT HANDS and quicks like a Wes Welker.
Many of you say NO WAY to a wr.It just my own personal opinion and I think this team could do wonders with the key reciever in the mix.We need more team speed as the saints,colts,patriots,vikings all have in the same position.Even though we have 3 recievers at this time.We'll probably lose Boldin after one year one way or the other and we'll have the player already to take over his spot.Hoping Doucet will one day grow a pair and fill the shoes he was drafted in the third round to fill.Look what Breaston is doing drafted in the 5th round.
Plus we need to give Garvin another shot next season at returnman.We need more team speed.This team is very hard not to love.
Adding more depth is just SICK....When you have up and comers like Toler,H.Johnson,Keith,CC,Watson&Branch,Rashad Johnson,CodyBrown,Big Beanie Wells,THT,DRC,Highsmith,Latui,Yes Levi Brown and many more.Its also the vets that add the flavor in Hayes,A-Dub,Fitz,Q,Breaston,B.Patrick,Graham,Rackers,McFadden,Ware,Haggans,etc...Whether we can keep Rolle,Dansby,Gandy,Leinart are all off season treasures for Whiz,Billy and Graves to work through.
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Basically, if you are a top 8 team, you can only sign a free agent to replace a player lost to another team...and you can only replace that lost player with another player of a similar salary. So, if the Cards win just 1 playoff game, they will be severely restricted.
FA is a vital part of the game, but I think that the important part of FA is allowing your Head football coach to bring in guys who fit your team. I.E. keith brooking or igor olachansky for dallas. both wade phillips guys. Or a terry glenn a prior bill parcells guy. those guys rather not being big names have been bargain guys who have given so much to the team. then there are the flashy guys that make the fans happy. T.O., pacman, etc. but we all saw how that worked out. the first approach is the way to go. It is a rarity that you are going to get a top quality free agent fall in your lap(that doesn't come with some warts). a drew brees for example. now there are some big name guys you can get in FA not saying it can't be done. but it is always a gamble.
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I was never a big believer in the free agency helping a team anyway. We have wasted a fortune over the years paying top dollar for so-called, can't fail players, that never played up to their press-clippings. I'd name a few but I forgot their names already.
You're right. We'd totally be where we are today without free agents like Bert Berry, Bryan Robinson, oh and that Kurt Warner guy.
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You're right. We'd totally be where we are today without free agents like Bert Berry, Bryan Robinson, oh and that Kurt Warner guy.
Sean Morey, Mike Gandy, Clark Haggans.... we've actually done pretty well in free agency since Whiz has been here.
You're right. We'd totally be where we are today without free agents like Bert Berry, Bryan Robinson, oh and that Kurt Warner guy.
All of whom were bargains. Look at what Kurt's salary was last year compared to his production. Warner wasn't a big money free agent signing, when he got here this was his third team in 3 years.
Starting with Denny Green and continuing through the current staff, our FA signings have been great bang for the buck values. I like the philosophy of drafting the core of your team and using free agency to fill in the gaps.
