Will the Suns Flame Out?

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From an outsiders point of view...
By Nick Prevenas Thursday, January 06, 2005


Let me preface everything I’m about to write with this: The Phoenix Suns are by far the most entertaining team the NBA has seen in years.



I’ve adopted them as my bandwagon team. I love their style, Nash’s hair, Amare’s dunks, and Marion’s hustle. I love all of it. They’re a borderline work of art when compared to their lead-foot contemporaries.



They’re one of a handful of teams that can execute a fast break without the ball touching the floor. They play on their toes and force opponents onto their heels for 48 minutes. They have a floor general, a go-to-guy, a top notch group of three-point shooters, and (most importantly) a swagger. They are truly more than the sum of their parts.



At 28-4, Phoenix owns the best record in the NBA. Their starting lineup boasts three potential All-Stars. They are sure to give teams fits in the playoffs. They have established themselves as a definite title contender.



But why won’t the Suns win the NBA’s big prize? Because of these four reasons.



1. Too much media hype



Every season, a team comes sprinting out of the gate and wins over fans and media pundits alike. Once the hype machine starts rolling, it’s nearly impossible to slow it down.



Eventually, the praise overwhelms the team’s actual performance and renders the “experts” useless when trying to accurately judge the on-court product. Lately, many have begun to wonder out loud whether this particular squad can approach the 1995-96 Chicago Bulls’ record-setting 72-10 season.



Are they serious???



Now I love this Phoenix team as much as anybody, but we’re talking about one of (if not THE) greatest basketball teams of all-time, playing under optimum circumstances. Not only was the league in a talent rut, this was also the season that welcomed the Toronto Raptors and Vancouver (now Memphis) Grizzlies into the league, further thinning out the talent pool. This was a season where Juwon Howard was 10th in the league in scoring. Plus, the Bulls had MJ and Scottie at the peak of their powers. They didn’t lose their fourth game until February 4th (to the Denver Nuggets!), after they had already complied 41 victories.



My guess is Phoenix reaches 60 wins and battles the Spurs for the #1 seed in the West. But they will not challenge the 70-win mark. No way.



When the press avalanche reaches this point, a team (especially one as young as Phoenix) might start to believe the hype. If they start worrying about 72 victories—especially in the brutal Western Conference—they can kiss their title hopes goodbye.



(Speaking of the media, I’m writing this as I watch the Suns cruise past the Rockets on ESPN. Play-by-play man Jim Durham stated that Steve Nash has never played with anyone who made him look as good as Amare Stoudemire. And he was serious. Apparently, Dirk Nowitzki only exists in my imagination because I could swear he made Nash look pretty good on several occasions).



2. Steve Nash’s lower back



For a team as loaded as Phoenix, it might come as a surprise that their playoff hopes rest squarely on the Canadian shoulders of Steve Nash. The Suns’ faithful better hope that weight isn’t too heavy, because his back will give out.



It’s no coincidence that everyone on the Phoenix roster is having a career year with Nash on board. He is one of maybe four or five point guards in the league that actually understands how to play the position. He has remarkable vision and a preternatural understanding of passing angles. He keeps everyone happy and scores only when necessary.



The best part about his game is that it’s contagious. Nobody on the Suns would have ever been called a good passer prior to Nash’s arrival. But now everybody looks for their teammate on the fast break and hits the shooter on the wing. It’s beautiful.



But if history is any indication, Nash will burn out during the stretch run. The biggest cause of Dallas’ collapses in the playoffs hasn’t been the lack of defense (though it hasn’t helped matters, either), it’s been Nash’s struggles with The Wall.



He plays at fifth gear all the time, which takes its toll during an 82-game season. During the second season, he’s not the same player. His passes are less crisp and his drives are less effective.



No player is more indispensable to his team’s success than Nash. The list of players as vital to their respective teams is short: KG, Duncan, LeBron, Shaq/Wade, O’Neal and Kidd (when healthy). Without Nash, the Suns lose their compass, their identity, their soul. If you think Leandro Barbosa is capable of leading this team on a deep playoff run...well...no.



3. Amare Stoudemire’s subtle, but apparent flaws



If you’ve seen any Phoenix highlights recently, you might be under the impression that Amare Stoudemire is the greatest power forward ever to play the game. By the time he retires, every NBA team will retire his #32. Teams like the Lakers that have already retired #32 will be ordered to re-retire Magic’s number in Amare’s honor. He will obliterate Kareem’s career scoring mark before he turns 30.



I love Amare as much as anybody, but let’s be reasonable here. He’s an immensely talented player with a Hall-of-Fame ceiling. But he’s not there yet. Anyone remember Shawn Kemp?



First, he has no left hand. Watch Amare work on the block. Nearly every move he makes is to his right. Every turnaround jumper is over his right shoulder. The only time he goes left is if his defender is shadowing his right hand or if the double-team comes from his right. He had made some admirable strides in this area from his rookie season, but it’s not quite where it needs to be. A coach with a good defensive scheme and appropriate personnel (read: Gregg Popavich and Larry Brown) can exploit this weakness in a 7-game series.



Second, he is a lousy rebounder. A guy with his athleticism should average at least 12 boards a game, but he’s currently only averaging 8.6. Shawn Marion is by far team’s best rebounder and he is playing out of position at power forward against players three-four inches taller. Amare needs to learn how to box out fast if the Suns have any hopes of contending.



Third, he is always looking to make the SportsCenter highlights, sometimes at the detriment of his team’s success. He wants to dunk every time on offense and block every shot on defense. I love his enthusiasm, but sometimes, a layup or a box-out will do the job. His desire to block shots often leaves him out of position on defense, which is dangerous for an already defensively-challenged team. This is a common mistake with many younger players, especially ones with as much sheer athleticism as Stoudemire.



Amare’s 50-point effort against the Portland Trailblazers on January 2 displayed everything good and bad about the Stoudemire experience. His dominance was slightly misleading, since the men guarding him (especially Zack Randolph) are embarrassingly bad defenders. He grabbed 11 rebounds that evening for the same reason.



However, any night where you score 50 on only 27 field goal attempts is simply remarkable. If he could shoot free throws (flaw #4), he would’ve scored 55.



After Nash, Stoudemire is the most important member of this team. Personally, I hope he continues this string of dominance through the playoffs, but I still feel he’s another year away from truly realizing his potential. With that said, few other players cause me to rub my eyes in disbelief more often than Amare. He’s always worth the price of admission, but that doesn’t always translate into long-term playoff success.



4. Phoenix’s lack of big-game experience (especially with the coach)



To be honest, I like D’Antoni. I have relatively fond memories of his days coaching the Denver Nuggets, and trust me, I don’t have many fond late-90s memories of the Nuggs. He’s a solid coach and his teams always play hard.



But he’s coached exactly as many playoff games as I have.



It’s a different game entirely in the postseason. The intensity increases a full level, perhaps two levels. In the 7-game format, coaching staffs are given the opportunity to obsess over every detail and every weakness their opponent possesses. Scoring often decreases in the playoffs because there’s no room for extra points. Every basket is a precious commodity. Every possession is life or death.



Coach D’Antoni’s squad is a wide-open scoring machine. They adhere to the “we’ll run the opponent out of the gym” school of offense. Defense is an afterthought. In today’s NBA, those easy fast breaks will evaporate in the postseason.



The only way to become a successful postseason coach is through experience. You have to get to know your personnel inside and out. You have to address and correct your team’s weaknesses before the opposing coach has a chance to break down your film. You have to have battle-tested veterans who can help you carry the load.



Last I checked, the Suns (and their coach) are desperately lacking in playoff experience. Only Nash has any real playoff experience. It’s awfully difficult to ask a young team with an inexperienced coach to learn the brutal nuances of playoff basketball on the fly.



Every serious title contender has to take their lumps before they can break through to the next level. The Bad Boys-era Pistons had to overcome Larry Bird and the Celtics before they could capture back-to-back titles. MJ’s Bulls had to struggle against those same Pistons before Jordan could reel off those six championships. The Spurs and Lakers had to overcome each other for their respective titles. Even last year’s Pistons team dealt with playoff heartache at the hands of the New Jersey Nets before Larry Brown replaced Rick Carlisle.



At this point, it appears as if Phoenix’s biggest road block is a seemingly invincible San Antonio Spurs squad. In their first matchup, the Spurs beat the Suns 115-94 in San Antonio. Phoenix played a decent ballgame, but they were simply overwhelmed by a superior ballclub.



The scariest thing about the Spurs is that they remain only 2.5 games behind the Suns for the overall best record in the league and Tim Duncan is averaging less than 35 minutes a game. He’s going to have another gear ready for the postseason, one that the Suns (and every other NBA team) will be hard-pressed to keep up with. At this point, it appears as if Duncan and the Spurs will be the team most likely to administer Phoenix’s first dose of playoff heartache.



So before anyone starts comparing the 2004-2005 Phoenix Suns to the greatest teams in NBA history, please remember that there is a lot of season left to play. I hate to play the role of naysayer, but the hype machine has been spinning out of control for way too long. Phoenix has a lot of work to do before they can be mentioned with as a truly elite team. But for the time being, I’ll continue to watch every game, cheer every Nash assist and Amare slam, and quietly wish that every team had their “problems.”

[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Read Taking the Charge every Thursday (or thereabouts) on SportsFanMagazine.com. Contact Nick Prevenas at [email protected].


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I think the article is reasonable. As amazing as the Suns have looked so far, I don't think most people on this board really expect them to be title contenders this season. (When I posted a poll asking whether a 58-24 record with a loss in the second round would be considered a success, almost everyone voted Yes.)

Of course there is no way that the Suns will win 70 games. I think 60 would be a terrific accomplishment. To win 60, Phoenix will have to go 32-18 over its last 50 games. That's within reach, but hardly a foregone conclusion. Still, a 31-win improvement over last season? That would be one for the ages.

Nash's history of breaking down is a concern, but he did say that he spent the summer strengthening his "core" muscles. Maybe that will do the trick.

Some of the criticisms of Stoudemire are valid, but some aren't. He isn't a complete player yet; we all know that. His repertoire of moves might be narrow, but it has been getting the job done so far. The charge that he tries to dunk everything in order to get on SportsCenter is just stupid. He tries to dunk everything because that's the highest-percentage shot. Earlier in the season, he was committing a lot of offensive fouls by forcing the issue, but those are starting to come down. And besides, no one ever criticized Shaquille O'Neal of trying to dunk everything.

The "big-game experience" issue is one to think about, but inexperienced teams sometimes do just fine in the playoffs. The Nets had almost no playoff experience in Kidd's first two years, but they made the Finals both times. We already know that D'Antoni isn't going to change his style come playoff time, so it isn't a question of whether he can make the necessary adjustments, but whether what he's been doing all along will continue to work.
 

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elindholm said:
I think the article is reasonable. As amazing as the Suns have looked so far, I don't think most people on this board really expect them to be title contenders this season. (When I posted a poll asking whether a 58-24 record with a loss in the second round would be considered a success, almost everyone voted Yes.)

Of course there is no way that the Suns will win 70 games. I think 60 would be a terrific accomplishment. To win 60, Phoenix will have to go 32-18 over its last 50 games. That's within reach, but hardly a foregone conclusion. Still, a 31-win improvement over last season? That would be one for the ages.

Nash's history of breaking down is a concern, but he did say that he spent the summer strengthening his "core" muscles. Maybe that will do the trick.

Some of the criticisms of Stoudemire are valid, but some aren't. He isn't a complete player yet; we all know that. His repertoire of moves might be narrow, but it has been getting the job done so far. The charge that he tries to dunk everything in order to get on SportsCenter is just stupid. He tries to dunk everything because that's the highest-percentage shot. Earlier in the season, he was committing a lot of offensive fouls by forcing the issue, but those are starting to come down. And besides, no one ever criticized Shaquille O'Neal of trying to dunk everything.

The "big-game experience" issue is one to think about, but inexperienced teams sometimes do just fine in the playoffs. The Nets had almost no playoff experience in Kidd's first two years, but they made the Finals both times. We already know that D'Antoni isn't going to change his style come playoff time, so it isn't a question of whether he can make the necessary adjustments, but whether what he's been doing all along will continue to work.

If the Suns continue playing the way that they have, I think 60 wins is more than reasonable, for a variety of reasons. The league appears to be weaker, at least in the western conference this year. The suns seem to handle the teams they "should beat" every night, even teams like Houston last night, that had all the classic signs of a letdown game. (less important game of a back to back road trip). In regards to the big game issue, it seems like this team has been in plenty of situations where they take it to another level when it matters most, one of the most important skills a team can have.

I think the x-factor in whether or not Steven Hunter gets significant experience. He is another guy that completely changes the face of the team, and fits perfectly into what they are doing. He appears to be an unbelievable steal at this point, affecting countless shots on defense, and his footwork and low post moves are arguably better than Amare's. If I were GM, I would give him a 3 year contract immediately, because if he hits the open market, he will get a very lucrative contract. If Hunter continues to develop, I believe we can compete with the Spurs, because then it is not a neccesity to double team on Duncan, and leave the shooters open, who ultimately killed us in the previous game. It will be interesting to see how we play them on the 21st, perhaps at that point, Hunter will be starting...
 

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Two additional factors will play a role in getting to 60 (or even 70).

- Injuries.

- Who PHX adds with to this mix via a trade. This will happen. Just a matter of when. My guess is a veteran who's had playoff experience (with a "team" mentality).
 

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this is a classic case of moronic sportswriting. everyone keeps saying how good phoenix is, and this guy interprets that to mean they are the best team ever. jeff van gundy has been the only one to mention 70 wins thus far, and last i checked, he's not media. he also conveniently glosses over the whole 'youngest team in the league' bit. oddly enough, my guess is that's a significant aspect of why the suns are so popular. THEY WILL GET BETTER! he even says that next year, amare will realize his potential. then whats the problem??? i don't even understand his point. the fact of the matter is that if the suns stay healthy, the next 5 years should be dominated by suns wins (and maybe a title as well).

in addition, as of yet, it hasn't sounded as though this young team has let the media hype get to them. every time amare gets showered with praise, he keeps talking about all the things he's got to do better. every time they ask nash how good this team is, he keeps saying we have a long way to go.

however, the facts are facts, and the facts are these:
-near record pace
-youngest team in the league
-mad entertainment

if that doesn't get you serious media hype, what does?
 

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playstation said:
this is a classic case of moronic sportswriting. everyone keeps saying how good phoenix is, and this guy interprets that to mean they are the best team ever. jeff van gundy has been the only one to mention 70 wins thus far, and last i checked, he's not media. he also conveniently glosses over the whole 'youngest team in the league' bit. oddly enough, my guess is that's a significant aspect of why the suns are so popular. THEY WILL GET BETTER! he even says that next year, amare will realize his potential. then whats the problem??? i don't even understand his point. the fact of the matter is that if the suns stay healthy, the next 5 years should be dominated by suns wins (and maybe a title as well).

in addition, as of yet, it hasn't sounded as though this young team has let the media hype get to them. every time amare gets showered with praise, he keeps talking about all the things he's got to do better. every time they ask nash how good this team is, he keeps saying we have a long way to go.

however, the facts are facts, and the facts are these:
-near record pace
-youngest team in the league
-mad entertainment

if that doesn't get you serious media hype, what does?

Yeah, I agree for the most part. Some of the trash media is just waiting for a Suns collapse. Unfortunately, they've been waiting 2 weeks into the season.

PHX keeps setting the bar, and the media-types like this like to play Dr. Naismith and predict their downfall.

There will be articles like this every step of the way.

LOL, it all started with David Aldridge and his "Jared Jefferies" prediction.
 

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This seems like a pretty good article to me. I guess it's because I don't see the Suns winning 72 games or a championship this season. :p Anyway, I think he brings up most of the relevant obstacles to the Suns' success this year.


For another viewpoint, you should go back to phxsuns.net for the next article--the one that compares the Suns to the Milwaukee Bucks' title team from the 70's. A few more of those and I'll believe that the Suns have a legit shot this year. :thumbup:
 

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The odd part about the article is how he feels he has to prove the Suns are not one of the all time great teams. A month ago it was just taken for granted that the Suns would collapse. And as for dealing with pressure, I think the Suns have been teams in a playoff atmosphere for weeks ask every team gets "up" to play the soaring Suns.

None the less, I agree with Eric that the article is mostly pretty accurate. Other than the misunderstanding about Amare's dunks (it's hard to block an Amare dunk), he didn't say much we haven't pointed out on this board.

There is one item he missed. While we may be overly enthusiastic about Hunter's development, he is beginning to look the missing piece. The Suns have to be able to defend better if they are going to have a chance in the playoffs and having a real shot blocker helps. We'll see.
 

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There are some reasonable observations made in this article, but he draws terrible conclusions.

1. Media hype. Who's talking about 70 games. Who cares about 70 games. I don't think the Suns do. All they care about is improving. You don't hear them talk about their record very much even. Nash, D'Antoni and crew are doing a very good job of keeping this team focused simply on improving themselves. The media can do whatever the blank they want, they can't lose even one game for this team. The all-star game could present a distraction, but I doubt it.

2. Nash and injuries. Good point. But Tim Duncan has been injured in the playoffs before. Shaq could get injured, Kidd could relapse. This is a potential problem for anyone. We do need to get Barbosa back, and it would be good to keep Nash under 35 minutes (which we nearly are, same # of minutes as Duncan).

3. Amare's flaws. He's not as bad a rebounder as that. Its just that we have other rebounders on the floor. He'll be a better rebounder by playoff time. And the "going to his right" thing--yep, its true. The whole league has known about it since his rookie year. In the words of one opponent, "you know he is going to his right, you plan for him to to go to his right, and there is still nothing you can do to stop it."

4. Lack of big game experience for the coach. This is the most reasonable point of the article. MD has won championships in Europe and he is very familiar with the NBA, I can't really believe that anything in the playoffs is going to come as that big of a shock to him. He has plenty of assistants who know the playoffs and all kinds of people in the organization who have bee to the playoffs before.

The big question about the playoffs is whether the refs will continue to call the perimeter handchecking foul. If they don't, we'll have a hard time. For this league, its time to fish or cut bait. I think they are going to call it. The future of the league depends on it--literally.

If you are into conspiracy theories, its in the league's best interest for the Suns to win it all this year. Their brand of ball is what this pugilistic league needs.

There are other points I could make, but some of you have already eloquently addressed them.
 

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