With no cap, the Cardinals don't have a chance.

[RugbyMuffin]

Not looking good:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2317906

If we go into this offseason without a cap you can kiss our hopes of seeing the playoffs good bye.

How can the Cardinals compete with the Giants, the Redskins, and other big market teams ?

So close and to have the rules change right when our team is about to head in the right direction is a shame.

And looking at the big picture it will ruin football. Just like it did baseball.

 

[joeshmo]

Not this year next year will be uncapped.

Both sides are just throwing around a lot of negative buzz words and using the media to do to get reaction from the fans on their side. It is nothing but politics, and both sides are exaggerating their positions to a point.

As I have speculated many times before, Upshaw has finally made public what the real problem is.

NFL | NFLPA preparing to take league to court
Thu, 2 Feb 2006 14:35:41 -0800

The Associated Press reports the NFLPA is preparing to take the NFL to court if there is no contract extension for the collective bargaining agreement. NFLPA executive director Gene Upshaw said the contract stalemate is due more to a disagreement amongst owners on revenue sharing than a conflict between the league and the union.

It is a fight between the haves and the have nots among the owners, in deciding the revenue sharing which will then tell the owners how much they will make each year, which will then tell the players how much the cap would be each year for them to agree upon. Owners meetings are set to happen a lot during the offseason, I think there are 3 of them scheduled. Once the owners stop fighting amongst themselves a deal will get done pretty fast. A Deal will get done before the 2007 season, even the rich owners kow just how sweet a deal they have.

 

[Duckjake]

Not this year next year will be uncapped.

Both sides are just throwing around a lot of negative buzz words and using the media to do to get reaction from the fans on their side. It is nothing but politics, and both sides are exaggerating their positions to a point.

As I have speculated many times before, Upshaw has finally made public what the real problem is.


It is a fight between the haves and the have nots among the owners, in deciding the revenue sharing which will then tell the owners how much they will make each year, which will then tell the players how much the cap would be each year for them to agree upon. Owners meetings are set to happen a lot during the offseason, I think there are 3 of them scheduled. Once the owners stop fighting amongst themselves a deal will get done pretty fast. A Deal will get done before the 2007 season, even the rich owners kow just how sweet a deal they have.

Do they?

One thing you have to remember is that most humans have been driven by the "All for me and none for all" motto forever. It is especially applicable in sports. All the way down to pee wee football and T-Ball. Hopefully the few sane people who understand that it is better for the NFL for all 32 owners to make 60 million than for 4 to make 480 million will prevail.

 

[Redrage]

Jerry Jones + Daniel Snyder = Satan + the anti-christ.

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

Not looking good:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2317906

If we go into this offseason without a cap you can kiss our hopes of seeing the playoffs good bye.

How can the Cardinals compete with the Giants, the Redskins, and other big market teams ?

So close and to have the rules change right when our team is about to head in the right direction is a shame.

And looking at the big picture it will ruin football. Just like it did baseball.

Thats why we are the cardinals, stupid Pottsville!

 

[justAndy]

Jerry Jones + Daniel Snyder = Satan + the anti-christ.

Thee Andikrist however, has no power to influence NFL franchise owners - they are EVIL beyond compare.
All the tv networks will get together and lean on the NFL hard to keep the money printing machine going.

 

[Matt L]

Do they?

One thing you have to remember is that most humans have been driven by the "All for me and none for all" motto forever. It is especially applicable in sports. All the way down to pee wee football and T-Ball. Hopefully the few sane people who understand that it is better for the NFL for all 32 owners to make 60 million than for 4 to make 480 million will prevail.

this is the most communist thing i have ever read, where are you free-market capitalists to jump all over this notion?

 

[Duckjake]

this is the most communist thing i have ever read, where are you free-market capitalists to jump all over this notion?

They're busy watching the Enron trial on Court TV.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

this is the most communist thing i have ever read, where are you free-market capitalists to jump all over this notion?

I thought it was more socialist ?

But non-capped sports do well.

I mean look at Hockey....well, don't look at hockey they are suffering right now.

A better example is basketball their popularity is ...er....well no they are not doing that well either.

But BASEBALL that is america's pastime....well it used to be.....I mean when I was a kid I watched......ahhh nevermind.
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But seriously the NFL has in place the best finacial system I have ever seen. It is a nice balance of socialism and free market capitalism. aka Salary and signing bonus. And all I need to back that statement up is to say look at the NFL. The games are great/competitive, the players are making SUPERB money, and everyone in the NFL are doing quite well.

Put baseball, hockey, and basketball together and they are not as popular or successful.

To screw this up would be foolish. If the players are saying they are not making enought then they are greedy. If the owners say they are not making enough then they are greedy. Just ask hockey, and baseball where their greed got them.

JMHO.

 

[Matt L]

i was actually kidding, i dont think that we should talk politics on a football board. i probably should have put a just kidding note or something.


sorry

 

[AntSports Steve]

Yep, This next extention has nothing to do with the NFLPA, it's all about the Rich owners vs the Other owners. And, the rich owners will hammer on the others for consessions right down to the last minute trying to get all they can out of them. I guess the Redskins and the Cowboys don't want to give up their 100M profit more than the rest of the teams. Who would have thought.

I predict without a doubt that the extension will get done in time and 2007 will include a salary cap, which will be more than $100M per team.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

i was actually kidding, i dont think that we should talk politics on a football board. i probably should have put a just kidding note or something.


sorry

Agreed. See editted post above

 

[RedViper]

Not saying I want to see the cap go away, but doesn't it seem like in the system in place the Cards don't ever have a chance anyway? I don't think things could get worse. If anything, we will suck just as bad under the MLB style system. It seems like small markets like Minnesota, KC, Tennessee, Buffalo, PITTSBURGH, should be the ones really worried about this deal. At least those small markets seem to succeed at time among the huge Markets.

 

[JeffGollin]

Formula for Franchise Building...

How can the Cardinals compete with the Giants, the Redskins, and other big market teams ?
The problem won't be with Market Size. It will have to do about winning.

Greater Phoenix has emerged as a Top 10 (maybe a Top 5) market in terms of population.

We're about to open a fantastic new stadium and with it, both an expanded existing revenue stream and plenty of new ones.

The only thing holding us back is lack of fan-support (partly due to the "I still root for GB or Minnesota" phenominon and mainly because the team has failed to win consistently).

Getting our panties in an uproar over the end of the cap is merely a reflex-action based on the way things used to be. We should be OK under new circumstances - but only so long as we start winning.

(It's always been that. Always will be).

 

[john h]

Not looking good:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2317906

If we go into this offseason without a cap you can kiss our hopes of seeing the playoffs good bye.

How can the Cardinals compete with the Giants, the Redskins, and other big market teams ?

So close and to have the rules change right when our team is about to head in the right direction is a shame.

And looking at the big picture it will ruin football. Just like it did baseball.

We would become the Montreal Expos of the NFL. Washington would be like the Yankees and could buy anyone they want. In the long run this would not work and the NFL would shrink.

 

[Goldfield]

Have you seen us each year?

Are you telling me we have allready had a chance to win? And now its gunna get worse? Good luck with that...

 

[spanky1]

We would become the Montreal Expos of the NFL. Washington would be like the Yankees and could buy anyone they want. In the long run this would not work and the NFL would shrink.

Which is why the deal will get done. Some of the owners might be greedy but they are not crazy. Now is not the time to ruin "America's Game" (yes baseball fans, the game has slipped to 2nd place at best).

IMO, much ado about nothing.