would it be smart to sign cromartie to a long term contract now?

[Kody]

so that his asking price will be lower than it might be by the time his contract is up?

 

[Shogun]

No.

 

[Zeno]

He just finished up his first year of a rookie deal (a first round pick deal too). Why does everyone want to re-do contracts all the time?

 

[Unsterblich856]

so that his asking price will be lower than it might be by the time his contract is up?

Where have I heard of something like that happening before...

 

[General Chaos]

I could be wrong, but I think you're not allowed to redo rookie contracts til after a player's second year. That was the case with Boldin and Portis.

 

[AZ Native]

He just finished up his first year of a rookie deal (a first round pick deal too). Why does everyone want to re-do contracts all the time?

Because I bought his jersey and we have to reverse this longtime trend that everytime I buy a player's jersey he leaves. C'mon, enough is enough.

200th post in almost 2 years but I love reading your "stuff".

 

[Evil Ash]

I could be wrong, but I think you're not allowed to redo rookie contracts til after a player's second year. That was the case with Boldin and Portis.

Close. Deals can't be restructured until one year (not one season) to the day that the rookie contract was signed

 

[Perfectionist]

Why? If he has a pro bowl year, he would not be happy with it (the new contract) and demand to be traded.

 

[IAWarnerFan]

Lets wait until after he makes the Pro Bowl next year.

 

[cardsfanmd]

He's signed to a longterm deal right now.

 

[SuperSpck]

Why? If he has a pro bowl year, he would not be happy with it (the new contract) and demand to be traded.

The worst part is that even though you're just having a little fun, how far off are you?

Players are always looking to the next contract, because it means more guarantees, which means more financial security...

For a team, keeping those rookie contracts in place for as long as possible is critical because it helps keep the front office juggling act (re-signings, rookie signings, free agent signings, and staff deals) intact. If we redid a rookie deal a couple years in, the new contract would mean a higher cap hit than the original contract in roughly the same stretch of time.

Bottomline: Rookie contracts are usually the cheapest kind of contract (Top 10ers notwithstanding) and provide a team with the best bang for buck.

I do suffer from disconnect when a player who signed a contract just a handful of years ago, and was thrilled to get the money, now feels underpaid. Especially when they're already millionaires. I'm not singling any one person out, but a handful of people, both in the present and in the future (it'll come up again).

 

[bg7brd]

He's signed to a longterm deal right now.

Exactly

 

[Cody]

Exactly

oh i thought maybe 2 more years..how long is it???

 

[wa52lz]

From revengeofthebirds(dot)com "dug up the details of Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie's contract and it's a supposedly a six year contract for about $16 million with just over $6 million guaranteed. As we already mentioned, it's really only 5yr deal because the final year is voidable by the player but the base salaries per year are 295K, 385K, 750K, 950K, 1.13 million and 650K. All in all, not bad for a 22 year old kid from Tennessee State."

Wikipedia said this "he signed a 5-year, $15.1 million contract with the team that includes $9 million in guarantees."

 

[Savage58]

so that his asking price will be lower than it might be by the time his contract is up?

Was that a serious question?

We just drafted him less than 1 year ago?

Bad idea.

 

[Unsterblich856]

From revengeofthebirds(dot)com "dug up the details of Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie's contract and it's a supposedly a six year contract for about $16 million with just over $6 million guaranteed. As we already mentioned, it's really only 5yr deal because the final year is voidable by the player but the base salaries per year are 295K, 385K, 750K, 950K, 1.13 million and 650K. All in all, not bad for a 22 year old kid from Tennessee State."

Wikipedia said this "he signed a 5-year, $15.1 million contract with the team that includes $9 million in guarantees."

Any word if we stopped doing ridiculously stupid escalators?

 

[JeffGollin]

Sometimes a team can get too far ahead of itself.

The Cards extended Anquan Boldin only to discover later that he's still unhappy that he's not being paid enough. I don't fault Q - sometimes recent stuff happens that causes the entire dynamic to change.

Problem is, this can cut both ways - a player can have one or more sensational years that cause him to be underpaid under a multi-year contract. But, when a player underperforms (due to injury or simply lack of production), you never hear them volunteering to rework that contract so that it's lower.

I love DRC, and I'd love for us to lock him up for 8 years. But too much can happen during that period and, going by the Boldin experience, there's a good chance he might not be thrilled with the terms anyway, 3 or 4 years down the road. So what would we have gained?

 

[john h]

so that his asking price will be lower than it might be by the time his contract is up?

This is what consistently good teams do. They also have a good eye to the future so they do not overpay a one year wonder. I would try and do a deal as he looks like a long term keeper.

 

[john h]

This is what consistently good teams do. They also have a good eye to the future so they do not overpay a one year wonder. I would try and do a deal as he looks like a long term keeper.

Forgot to add he may be the fastest player in the NFL. Speed requires no teaching or experience.

 

[DoTheDew]

DRC's asking price will go back up fast if the cap continues to inflate at the rate it has. Even if we knew he was going to be a perennial pro-bowler who never got injured, he would still want to rework his deal early like Boldin because it won't look nearly as big in 4 years as it does now. People forget at the time Boldin signed his deal it paid him like an uper echelon WR, since then the cap has gone up about 50% since then from $85.5 million to somewhere between $123 million and $130 million this year.

That puts Boldin's $22.5 million extention at around $34 million over 4 years in today's NFL cap. That would put him close to Fitz and I think had we offered him that before Fitz's contract was done he might have accepted it.