ASUCHRIS said:
Ugh, I don't even want to respond to this. If you don't realize that we could get excellent return for Randy Johnson, this conversation isn't even worth considering. We would have easily gotten Lo Duca, Mota, and top prospects for Johnson if we wanted it. I am guessing "Trader Joe" has some sort of plan for the winter....actually, what the hell am I thinking?
Um, no, we wouldnt have. The Dodgers werent even giving us Edwin Jackson. If memory serves, the center of the deal was Penny, Billington, Murphy, and spare parts for Johnson and Finley. I dont call that an excellent return. The Dbacks thought that Jackson was in the deal, the Dodgers didnt, and the deal broke down. Well, at least that was what was rumored, so we'll probably never know the truth. If the Diamondbacks in the offseason again make it known that we are desperate to dump, we arent going to get anything worthwhile in return (right, Schilling?). There are just too few teams that match up to make the trade. Oh, and next time check your math. Johnson is not anywhere near 30% of the payroll.
If we can get Sexson to a decent contract? This is just ridiculous. It has been reported ad naseum that Sexson will give us no break. He is gone, and if we spend what it takes to get him back, with our joke of a pitching staff, we are ********. On top of this, his injury takes generally two years to recover from, and some players (i.e. Shawn Green) are no longer the same player after it. Sexson was a terrible mistake, and if this organization wants to move forward, we need to get past Sexson.
It has also been reported at naseum that Sexson did want to come back, but yeah, I would not be betting on getting him to a contract that works for the Diamondbacks. Thats why I said if. However, on the chance we can, Id still like him on my team if he can come back healthy (another big if). There is also plenty of money freed up from Finley, Mantei, Dessens, Colbrunn, etc. to get both Sexson and a bit of pitching, IF the Diamondbacks wanted to go that route. It doesnt necessarily have to be one or the other. And Sexson was only a terrible mistake because he got injured. We gave up expensive junk + Chris Capuano for an upgrade from Overbay to Sexson. Considering how many people thought that last year's offense was unacceptable, we needed to add a guy like Sexson.
Young, decent, cheap pitcher for Hillenbrand? Yeah, that seems likely.....people give those away for a dime a dozen.....
Plenty of rumors saying that a lot of teams wanted Hillenbrand. There was even a Hillenbrand-Garcia trade rumor. I dont know whats true and whats not, but lots of teams could use a guy like Hillenbrand. And I said decent, not spectacular. I wouldnt expect a guy like Garcia, but based on the interest level of Hillenbrand, I bet we could get a guy that could give us solid outings in the back of the rotation.
I wasn't suggesting to trade Gonzo, no GM is stupid enough to trade for a ten million dollar albatross, with a noodle arm and a .260 average.....maybe if we let go of Joe G and some other team picks him up......His contract will hamper this team for the next two years....ugh....
Ok, I misread then. When you said you wanted him off the books, I thought you meant we should try and trade him. But at least we agree that he would be difficult to trade.
