WVU wins NIT championship - Would have went far in NCAA tourney

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Too bad teams like Stanford, Illinois, etc made it when WVU was 23-9 on a Big East schedule. They would have been a tough team to play in the NCAA tourney with their trapping 1-3-1,barrage of three pointers, and THE best coach in college basketball-John Beilein.

Go Mountaineers!
 

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Congrats on WVU winning the NIT.


Now, will Beilein stay?

Michigan is expected to seek out West Virginia's John Beilein this weekend in Atlanta after the Mountaineers finish with the NIT final Thursday night in New York.


Multiple sources tell ESPN.com that the Wolverines' plan was to unofficially interview three or four candidates (possibly Beilein, Xavier's Sean Miller and Southern Illinois' Chris Lowery) and then choose one to give the formal interview. The focus is on Beilein. The problem is that the buyout in his contract, a dollar for dollar buyout of his remaining deal that is at $2.5 million, isn't going away.
 

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Who exactly did West Virginia beat this year away from home? Oh yeah, nobody. Getting two quality wins all season (one of which came when playing a Collison-less UCLA), stacking your OOC schedule with the likes of Mount St. Mary's, Slippery Rock, Savannah State, Citadel, and Maryland Eastern Shore, and performing well in a Tournament even half the players don't care about does not mean you'll make an impact in the NCAA Tournament nor does it mean you deserved a bid.

And suggesting John Beilien is the best coach in college basketball is laughable at best. He's good but not even Top 10.
 
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Yeah I agree they should have been in the tourney.

Any truth to the Beilein to Michigan, Bob Huggins to WVU rumors?

Apparently Huggie has a special clause in his contract that severely lowers the buyout cost if he gets an offer from WVU, his alma mater.
 
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Who exactly did West Virginia beat this year away from home? Oh yeah, nobody. Getting two quality wins all season (one of which came when playing a Collison-less UCLA), stacking your OOC schedule with the likes of Mount St. Mary's, Slippery Rock, Savannah State, Citadel, and Maryland Eastern Shore, and performing well in a Tournament even half the players don't care about does not mean you'll make an impact in the NCAA Tournament nor does it mean you deserved a bid.

And suggesting John Beilien is the best coach in college basketball is laughable at best. He's good but not even Top 10.


First off, why so bitter? ASU will be good again, just give it 10-12 years!

Beilein is regarded by most as one of the top 2-3 bench coaches in college basketball, and has been for years. You have zero understanding of his offense and the way his teams play. I guess being wooed by Michigan, Illinois, and Kentucky means nothing. The guys is a first rate coach and runs a fantastic offense.

Yes they would have made an impact for the simple reason that their 1-3-1 trap zone and their movement offense is so unique it is hard to prepare for on a day or two notice.

But keep on rooting for Stanford! They rock!:thumbup:
 
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Yeah I agree they should have been in the tourney.

Any truth to the Beilein to Michigan, Bob Huggins to WVU rumors?

Apparently Huggie has a special clause in his contract that severely lowers the buyout cost if he gets an offer from WVU, his alma mater.


Beilein is hoepfully staying but is now being sought after by Kentucky, Michigan, and Illinois. The school that scares me is Kentucky. That is a dream job if you can just half-way recruit.
 

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Beilein is hoepfully staying but is now being sought after by Kentucky, Michigan, and Illinois. The school that scares me is Kentucky. That is a dream job if you can just half-way recruit.

I think Donovan is still leaning towards UK. He apparently told his recruits he's not taking the job but Patrick Patterson has put off making his final decision until UK hires a new coach. he's basically down to Florda, UK and Duke and most think Florida is the leader, so he's basically saying I want to play for Donovan so I'm waiting until UK hires a coach.

I love the way Beilein coaches and yes they are very tough to prepare for on short notice nobody else plays that style on offense and defense.
 

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First off, why so bitter? ASU will be good again, just give it 10-12 years!
Um, who said I was an ASU fan? I'm not bitter, it just gets really old hearing fans of teams bitch about a lack of respect when they have done nothing to earn it. Also when you somebody claim a guy who has never been to a Final Four nor even won his conference (let along finish above third place) being lauded as "THE best coach in college basketball." He's without a doubt the sixth best coach in his own conference and that's being generous.

Beilein is regarded by most as one of the top 2-3 bench coaches in college basketball, and has been for years. You have zero understanding of his offense and the way his teams play. I guess being wooed by Michigan, Illinois, and Kentucky means nothing. The guys is a first rate coach and runs a fantastic offense.
By who? West Virginia fans? You'd think one of the 2-3 best bench coaches in collehe hoops would've won something by now. You're right being wooed by Michigan and Illinois means nothing to me as they're marginal programs. Kentucky has bigger fish to fry than John Beleien who has accomplished less at every level than the guy they just fired.

Yes they would have made an impact for the simple reason that their 1-3-1 trap zone and their movement offense is so unique it is hard to prepare for on a day or two notice.
Where have I heard this before? Oh yeah, when you were claiming the greatness of WVU's football offense that like their basketball team has produced absolutely nothing.

But keep on rooting for Stanford! They rock!:thumbup:
At least Stanford beat a good team away from home this year as well as UCLA with Darren Collison. Like your football team, the Mountaineer Hoops team cakewalked their way through a joke of a schedule only to rightfully get left out in the cold followed by their fans bitching about lack of respect. Congrats WVU, you're the Kansas State of this decade. Beat somebody and then we'll talk.

I am fully confident they could beat most of the pac-10. What that say?
That say you're a homer with no intelligent understanding on college hoops. Every team in the Pac-10 not named ASU, Cal, Washington, and Oregon State has more quality wins this year than West Virginia and comparable or better records when you even out for scheduling. But I guess they have that genius offense that led them to that astounding 9-7 Big East record so you might as well replace Ohio State with them and watch G'Town and Florida piss their pants in fear.

This arguably could be one of the dumbest arguments I've ever heard on ASFN. Winning the NIT means a team would've went on a deep NCAA tourney run. I suppose if Arizona wins the Insight.com Bowl this year I should start a thread saying they belonged in a BCS game due to their "imaginative" offense and coach who has never won anything.
 
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FYI the West Virginia Scout.com board is apparently reporting that Beilein will accept the Michigan job.
 
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Um, who said I was an ASU fan? I'm not bitter, it just gets really old hearing fans of teams bitch about a lack of respect when they have done nothing to earn it. Also when you somebody claim a guy who has never been to a Final Four nor even won his conference (let along finish above third place) being lauded as "THE best coach in college basketball." He's without a doubt the sixth best coach in his own conference and that's being generous. -This is the simplest minded statement I have ever read from you, and you have produced some winners before. I guess the fact that WVU gets zero college BB exposure or is hurt by being in the best college basketball confernece in the country wouldnt have anything to do with this right?Coz they are routinly in the hunt for the best college baskeball players int he country! :rolleyes:


By who? West Virginia fans? You'd think one of the 2-3 best bench coaches in collehe hoops would've won something by now. You're right being wooed by Michigan and Illinois means nothing to me as they're marginal programs. Kentucky has bigger fish to fry than John Beleien who has accomplished less at every level than the guy they just fired. See below, oh, and switch off the "All Arizona" channel once in a while. there are other schools out there.
Where have I heard this before? Oh yeah, when you were claiming the greatness of WVU's football offense that like their basketball team has produced absolutely nothing.

Huh? They do have a great offense and two potential heismann trophy candidates in White and Slaton. They lost to South Florida last year and it ruined their season. I never once suggested they had any right to play in any other bowl than the Gator bowl after that. But do remind me what was the Pac-10's bowl record last year?

At least Stanford beat a good team away from home this year as well as UCLA with Darren Collison. Like your football team, the Mountaineer Hoops team cakewalked their way through a joke of a schedule only to rightfully get left out in the cold followed by their fans bitching about lack of respect. Congrats WVU, you're the Kansas State of this decade. Beat somebody and then we'll talk. We did UCLA -TWICE. That pinnacle of teams you ASU fans aspire to be got beat by the nobody's at WVU, not once, but twice. If WVU is Kansas Stateof this decade then Pac-10 football must be the Ohio Universites and Baylors we beat up on all the time!

That say you're a homer with no intelligent understanding on college hoops. Thats rich coming from the biggest west coast homer on the board and one who touts being a fan of another west coast loser with that avatar! Every team in the Pac-10 not named ASU, Cal, Washington, and Oregon State has more quality wins this year than West Virginia and comparable or better records when you even out for scheduling. But I guess they have that genius offense that led them to that astounding 9-7 Big East record so you might as well replace Ohio State with them and watch G'Town and Florida piss their pants in fear.

This arguably could be one of the dumbest arguments I've ever heard on ASFN. Winning the NIT means a team would've went on a deep NCAA tourney run. Thats not what I said. You choose to ignore what I said. I said because of the unique style of offense and 1-3-1 zones of WVU, they are very hard to prepare for. Just like the last two years whent hey went to the elite 8 and sweet sixteen, I would expect they would have done the same this year. I suppose if Arizona wins the Insight.com Bowl this year I should start a thread saying they belonged in a BCS game due to their "imaginative" offense and coach who has never won anything.
I figured you would do that anyway. Afterall, they are part of the Joke-10 football conference.

Not bitter? Puhleease.

You can bash them all you want, it is pretty apparent that if a team, regardless of sport-resides outside the Pac-10 you dont like them. Facts are still facts. WVU beat UCLA this year and in case you forgot, smoked them last year on their home court. What was the excuse then? keep crying...

And your ignorance of Beilein is amazing. Have you even followed his career? Oh thats right, he didnt coach in the Pac-10, no you didnt.

Let me give you some facts:

1. Beilein has won 550 career games and is ranked 22nd all-time in wins among NCAA Division I coaches

2. Last three years:

2004-05 24-11 NCAA Elite Eight
2005-06 22-11 22 NCAA Sweet Sixteen
2006-07 27-9 NIT Champions

3. Has compiled winning records in 25 of his 28 years as a Division 1 coach

4. In the past two years West Virginia reeled off wins against No. 3 Villanova, No. 7 Oklahoma, No. 8 Pitt, No. 7 Florida, No. 18 UCLA, No 2 UCLA, and No. 15 Georgetown.

And by the way, he did this the first two years with only 7 kids on scholarship, and this year has only 1 senior on the team. Not to mention the difficulty in recruiting for WVU basketball! But, yeah he sucks! :rolleyes:

Quotes

Jim Calhoun:

"I don’t believe we’ve recruited against a John Beilein player yet. And the point being is that his system, they run it like perfection.He’s one of the best coaches in the business.”

John Calipari:

"He has refined it (the offensive system) so well, that when you finally figure out how to take something away from them, they just move on to plan B"

Digger Phelps:

"...There are lots of really good college basketball coaches out there, but only a handful of great ones. John Beilein and Chris Lowery first come to mind"


I'd say you ranke right up there with other ignorant asses on this board who cant look outside their own "Bubble" to see what else is really out there. Hint for you: There are lots of other sports programs out there besides the Bruins, Sun Devils, and Cardinals....
 

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Maotosi, you can make your points without the insults, please.
 
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