If you could get rid of two K's, who do you keep?
You have to keep one of the K's...who do you pick?
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To me, Start by getting rid of Keim and Kliff.
Even if Kyler is a bust, you can't keep the root of the problem - poor drafting, poor coaching, etc. No QB can thrive with this mess.
Even if Kyler is a bust, you can't keep the root of the problem - poor drafting, poor coaching, etc. No QB can thrive with this mess.
It's no choice. Kyler is impossible to get rid of and if Keim or Kliff go they go together.
The person I most want gone is Bidwill. He's a nice guy, but a terrible owner. Probably a terrible owner because he's a nice guy.
The person I most want gone is Bidwill. He's a nice guy, but a terrible owner. Probably a terrible owner because he's a nice guy.
LA Redbird
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Kyler has talent. He's not coached or developed. It's year 4, so he's getting stale, which is a risk for the rest of his career. But he's has potential tasty perhaps someone else can tap. Runaway choice here.
LA Redbird
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Yeah, it's all Bidwill to me as well.
MaoTosiFanClub
The problem
He's not a nice person at all. Mostly despised within the local business community.
I really dislike Kyler ( dislike the other two as well) but he is the only one who can possibly be salvaged. Has nothing to do with money but the remote possibility he can actually take control of his effort and development. I doubt he can change but am hopeful
HomerPimpson
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I'd get rid of Keim and Kliff but I am starting to worry that some of Kyler's skittishness (and panic at times) is becoming muscle memory.
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MaoTosiFanClub
The problem
Kyler is the most difficult to replicate. I mean even with him being mediocre this year there’s only about 15-20 mediocre or better NFL quarterbacks on the entire planet.
Drunken fat guys who do errand boy work for rich dudes and casually scout college football games (Keim) you can find dozens of at every sports bar every weekend. Fired disgraced college football coaches who spend too much time creeping on chicks half their age (Kliff) also are a dime a dozen in the sports world.
Drunken fat guys who do errand boy work for rich dudes and casually scout college football games (Keim) you can find dozens of at every sports bar every weekend. Fired disgraced college football coaches who spend too much time creeping on chicks half their age (Kliff) also are a dime a dozen in the sports world.
Chopper0080
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kerouac9
Klowned by Keim
Yeah, man, I dunno. Kyler in 2022 is 24th in DYAR. I think you can get that kind of production pretty easily. The thing with Kyler is that he's shown in stretches that he can be the most valuable player in the NFL with a pretty mediocre supporting cast around him (including the coach) and there are only eight of those guys on the planet (maybe).
That said, Kyler is the highest-quality of the three and you have to take another stab at getting through to him.
I would preorder immediately. Can we crowdfund an advance?
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You know what’s hilariously sad?
You could go back to the beginning of 2019 & ask this same question, but replace:
- Kliff Kingsbury with Steve Wilks
- Kyler Murray with Josh Rosen
What sticks out?
You could go back to the beginning of 2019 & ask this same question, but replace:
- Kliff Kingsbury with Steve Wilks
- Kyler Murray with Josh Rosen
What sticks out?
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Remove Keim and Kilff and hope Murray is better than he has looked this season.
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Cardsfaninlouky
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You can't get rid of Bidwill unless he does something stupid like Robert Sarver. I believe Bidwill just listens to the wrong people (Keim) he will spend money. The problem is he's listening to the wrong person because he works for him, as long as Keim works for him we'll be stuck with a bad roster. If (huge if) he were to fire Keim & hire a good GM things would improve imo. Doubt it happens but we can hope.
AZ Native
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With Kyler's contract I have to keep him. He has great potential and who would take his contract?
82CardsGrad
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Has to be Kyler… only because the $$ makes it so.
Ouchie-Z-Clown
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Dropthafoos
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So Keim does read this board. Interesting..
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TJ
Frank Kaminsky is my Hero.
I’ve also heard that Mikey is kind of an ass in public. Not Sarver bad, but borderline unapproachable
reebokalone2001
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We do have a board member named SteveKeimFan, don't we?
Jetstream Green
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I disagree if being a nice guy is the basis of whether he is good or not being an owner but being a lawyer he cannot be all that nice haha... now coaching is another story
