Your (and my) Mock Lottery

HooverDam

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So I wanted to see what everyones (very) early predictions for the NBA draft are. Im just going to do up to the Suns pick because after that I dont really care :p Here it goes:

1. LA Clippers: Blake Griffin, PF, Oklahoma. Consensus #1 pick and Dunleavy has already said they'll take him even though they have a front court log jam (theyll likely make some trades).

2. Memphis Grizzlies: Ricky Rubio, PG, Spain. They already have Mike Conely but from everything Ive read their not super high on him. Further I think he's a serviceable player but not a star. They'll take Rubio and have an awesome perimeter combination of Rubio-Mayo-Gay for years to come.

3. Oklahoma City Thunder: James Harden, SG, Arizona State. Harden wouldn't go this high if anyone else had the pick, but he's a perfect fit for OKC. Durant hasn't done as well when he plays the 2, and this would allow him to slide to his natural position of the 3. Westbrook-Harden-Durant-Green is a terrific core and they already have some serviceable bigs in Collins and Kristic so I think they'll pass on Thabeet.

4. Sacramento Kings: Brandon Jennings, PG, Italy. The Kings really got boned in the lottery. They desperately need a PG, but Rubio will be off the board already. I suspect they'll try to move out of this pick one way or the other, as Jennings is a slight reach at this point and someone may want to move up to take Thabeet. Id be surprised if Sacramento takes him as they have Hawes and Thompson in the front court which they seem to like.

5. Washington Wizards: Hasheem Thabeet, C, UCONN. The Wizards need is more at the PG (to allow Gilbert to slide to the 2) and this is a deep draft for that, but I can't imagine Thabeet sliding any further. I think they take Thabeet and try to move Antwan Jameson to free up salary, try to get a PG in return and clear up their front court log jam.

6. Minnesota Timberwolves: DeMar DeRozan, SG/SF, USC The Wolves love unathletic, undersized white players, so Im sure they wish they could take Hansbrough, but even McHale isn't dumb enough to reach that much. They also need a PG so they could go that way with this pick. But since Corey Brewer hasn't really panned out and may not, I think they'll go for a wing player. Additionally, Miller and Gomes expire after next year, so another reason to take a wing. Jordan Hill is probably the top rated guy on the board, but they already have 2 offensive minded bigs in Love and Jefferson, Hill would be redundant.

7. Golden State Warriors: Jordan Hill, PF, Arizona. Golden State probably needs a PG to allow Ellis to play off ball, but any left here are reaches or combo guards, which doesn't do them much good. Hill can run the floor and play in an uptempo Nelliball style and is the best player available, so the Warriors take him.

8. New York Knicks: Stephen Curry, SG/PG, Davidson. Im not high on him (this high in the draft anyway), but D'Antoni and the Knicks apparently love him, so they won't pass on him if he's there. Robinson expires after next year, so if they don't resign him, Curry could fill the same role but on a rookie scale contract.

9. Toronto Raptors: Earl Clark, SF, Louisville. I think this is a bit of a reach for Clark, but with Marion being in a contract year I could see them wanting a SF. Clarks passing ability and athleticism should appeal to Colangelo. They could also look to trade down.

10. Milwaukee Bucks: Tyreke Evans, SG/PG, Memphis. The Bucks are a tough team to predict. They wont take a SF (Jefferson, Alexander), Center (Bogut) or a shooting guard (Redd), and they need a PG so I have them taking Evans. They could also take a PF like Blair if they think Villanueva is gone, or just for depth. Which PG they take will depend on their own evaluations and if they think Evans is more of a 1 than a 2 will of course play in. They could also take Lawson or Flynn, but Evans is the highest rated on most peoples boards so Ill slot him here.

11. New Jersey Nets: DeJuan Blair, PF, PITT. The Nets have a nice young Center (Lopez), I assume they'll bring back Harris, and Carter still has a long deal. I think this pick will depend on what they see Yi as, if he's a PF, then you take a SF, if he's a SF, then you go for a big Id guess. From the limited amount I've seen Yi he seems too weak to play the 4, so Ill have the Nets taking Blair.

12. Charlotte Bobcats: Gerald Henderson, SG, Duke. Raja Bell and Raymond Feltons deals are both done after next year, Felton hasn't been great and Bell is getting old, so who knows if they'll be back. The Bobcats can take Henderson, another player from their home state, and fill a need as well as take the guy who might be the BPA.

13. Indiana Pacers: Johnny Flynn, PG, Syracuse. The only position the Pacers have that I like is Small Forward, otherwise I think every position could be categorized as a 'need'. Even though they have Jack and Ford, neither are world beaters are neither are on long term deals. PF/C may be more of a need but theres none available at this point worth this pick, so I think they go PG, the deepest position in the draft.

14. Phoenix Suns: Terrence Williams, SG/SF, Louisville. The Suns are reportedly high on Flynn and if he was here they'd take him- even though they talked up Dragic and did a lot to get him. Barnes and Hill may not be here next year and Dudley will probably end up starting at the 3 if theyre gone. They also need a Center with Shaq expiring and Lopez being freakin' awful, but anyone they'd take here is a reach/project as well (i.e. Mullens).

Williams is a bit undersized for the 3 and not a great three point shooter to play the 2 (but that can always be improved). But he's a good rebounder and passer which will definitely appeal to the Suns who need rebounding and additional distributors. He's touted as a good defender who can guard multiple positions and that'll certainly appeal to Kerrs defense first mentality.

Anyway, thoughts? Am I way off? Close? Post yours! :D
 

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Hoover, nice list. Have to ruminate on it. Hasheem Thabeet has athetic height you can't teach. Would he slide beyond #3?

We've debated our ASU brother James Harden on the college board. I continue to disagee with you there. He's not a top ten pick to me. A man without an NBA position who still has trouble going right.
 
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Hoover, nice list. Have to ruminate on it. Hasheem Thabeet has athetic height you can't teach. Would he slide beyond #3?

We've debated our ASU brother James Harden on the college board. I continue to disagee with you there. He's not a top ten pick to me. A man without an NBA position who still has trouble going right.

Right but remember, just because you don't like him in the top 10 doesn't mean a lot of NBA GMs don't. Im not predicting what I think should happen, but rather what will. :D
 

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Williams -_- :eek:

The draft order doesn't help much, I predict that two of the top 5 picks will be involved in trades. Most likely Washington and Memphis or OKC.

1. Clippers - Blake Griffin
2. Memphis - Ricky Rubio
3. Oklahoma - Hasheem Thabeet
4. Sacramento - Jrue Holiday
5. Washington - Jordan Hill
6. Minnesota - James Harden
7. Golden State - DeMar DeRozan
8. New York - Stephen Curry
9. Toronto - Tyreke Evans
10. Milwaukee - Dejuan Blair
11. New Jersey - Chase Buddinger
12. Charlotte - Wayne Ellington
13. Indiana - Ty Lawson
14. Phoenix - Brandon Jennings

Keeping my fingers crossed. Jennings, Flynn, Holiday, Lawson and even Maynor could go in any order.

Milwaukee doesn't need a PG. Sessions is a stud in the making and they still have Ridnour and Charlie Bell as well.
 
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I would definitely put James Johnson on a mock list for the Suns. He is 6'9", weighs 250 and reportedly can play both forward positions.
 

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Yep New Jersey doesn't need a PG and all other positions are pretty thin.

There is no big man available that wouldn't be a reach at #11. I figure that the other option would have been Earl Clark or a Vince Carter replacement but all of those are gone at #11 also.

Really there aren't too many wing players that are better than Buddinger in the draft, I'd say that DeRozan is the only one. I also think that Buddinger's stock will rise dramatically when workouts start.
Someone fell in love with Mike Miller also, and I wouldn't say that Buddinger is a worse prospect.
 

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Clippers' pick is a no brainer even for them.

Memphis won't take Rubio. Well, they might but they'll him trade down and get a big. No way they use their third consecutive pick on a guy under 6'4. Then again their GM is Chris Wallace so you never know. Memphis is probably best served trading Rubio for Jordan Hill and picking up another pick or two and a player. Conley's a decent PG for his age and has improved every year. Jordan and Marc Gasol would complement each other pretty well.

I don't see how Harden's a good fit in OKC. Harden needs somewhere the offense can be run through him (a la Brandon Roy) and the OKC offense goes through Durant and always will. I think they go Thabeet here as their defense is awful.

I think the Kings take Jordan Hill right here and trade him to Memphis.

Here goes Harden to the Wizards. Hibachi starts at point but moves to the scorer's role where he is better served and no longer has to run the offense. The Wiz go back to the playoffs next year.

Will fill in more later, but I do think Demar Derozan will be a stud. Brandon Jennings will be good but not great. Jrue Holiday is terrible and the mere mention of him in the lottery is laughable, the volleyball player coming out of Tucson was a better player as a freshman. Stephen Curry will never make an AS game but will be a very good player on a couple championship teams (especially if LeBron goes to the Knicks). I don't see the Earl Clark love as he's another big with a jumpshot that GM's fall in love with. He's soft, say hello to Tim Thomas for me. I think Tyreke Evans could be good player just not explosive enough for me to ever be a great NBA PG and not good enough on the perimeter to play the 2. I think the team that picks him will determine his future.
 

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Robin Lopez had this didn't he?

Grrr. I typed "athletic height". Robin Lopez is not athletic. He moves like he smokes a doobie in the tunnel before warmups for each game.
 

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Clippers' pick is a no brainer even for them.

Memphis won't take Rubio. Well, they might but they'll him trade down and get a big. No way they use their third consecutive pick on a guy under 6'4. Then again their GM is Chris Wallace so you never know. Memphis is probably best served trading Rubio for Jordan Hill and picking up another pick or two and a player. Conley's a decent PG for his age and has improved every year. Jordan and Marc Gasol would complement each other pretty well.

I don't see how Harden's a good fit in OKC. Harden needs somewhere the offense can be run through him (a la Brandon Roy) and the OKC offense goes through Durant and always will. I think they go Thabeet here as their defense is awful.

I think the Kings take Jordan Hill right here and trade him to Memphis.

Here goes Harden to the Wizards. Hibachi starts at point but moves to the scorer's role where he is better served and no longer has to run the offense. The Wiz go back to the playoffs next year.

Will fill in more later, but I do think Demar Derozan will be a stud. Brandon Jennings will be good but not great. Jrue Holiday is terrible and the mere mention of him in the lottery is laughable, the volleyball player coming out of Tucson was a better player as a freshman. Stephen Curry will never make an AS game but will be a very good player on a couple championship teams (especially if LeBron goes to the Knicks). I don't see the Earl Clark love as he's another big with a jumpshot that GM's fall in love with. He's soft, say hello to Tim Thomas for me. I think Tyreke Evans could be good player just not explosive enough for me to ever be a great NBA PG and not good enough on the perimeter to play the 2. I think the team that picks him will determine his future.
Great post, MTFC. Thanks.
 

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Williams -_- :eek:

The draft order doesn't help much, I predict that two of the top 5 picks will be involved in trades. Most likely Washington and Memphis or OKC.

1. Clippers - Blake Griffin
2. Memphis - Ricky Rubio
3. Oklahoma - Hasheem Thabeet
4. Sacramento - Jrue Holiday
5. Washington - Jordan Hill
6. Minnesota - James Harden
7. Golden State - DeMar DeRozan
8. New York - Stephen Curry
9. Toronto - Tyreke Evans
10. Milwaukee - Dejuan Blair
11. New Jersey - Chase Buddinger
12. Charlotte - Wayne Ellington
13. Indiana - Ty Lawson
14. Phoenix - Brandon Jennings

Keeping my fingers crossed. Jennings, Flynn, Holiday, Lawson and even Maynor could go in any order.

Milwaukee doesn't need a PG. Sessions is a stud in the making and they still have Ridnour and Charlie Bell as well.

we should only be so lucky to have brandon jennings fall into our laps. i don't think there's a chance of that. and NO WAY ty lawson goes before jennings (though i'd love to see it).
 

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