Forcing The Ball To Marvin Harrison Junior

[Timm Rosenbach]

After only getting the ball to him once during the first week and not targeting him regularly after the first quarter last week, it seems like Kyler was forcing the ball to Harrison this week. Harrison is showing some weakness when it comes to drops and not looking for the ball when it is there. This team has a tremendous group of tight ends and decent receivers in Michael Wilson and Dortch. I think that Harrison not going through the typical draft preparation, offseason and preseason process has hampered his development. There is a difference between catching the ball from the jugs machine and actually playing against NFL quality talent. I hope that the Cardinals don’t continue to force the ball to Harrison going forward

 

[HairZach]

The typical draft prep for a WR is cutting weight and training for the 40 yard dash. What Marvin did instead of that was working on running routes and catching balls. The offseason and preseason process he had was the same as every other receiver in the NFL. What are you talking about?

Kyler was definitely forcing it to Harrison. I think he just didn't trust the defense to gets stops and hoped that throwing it to the best player on our offense would get results. The Lions shutting down our run game really killed us.

 

[GeorgiaCard88]

He made some extremely costly mistakes- but cmon man isn’t this a bit of an over reaction? I think there is a lot for him to learn from the game tape today.

Make no mistake though- if we can’t get MHjr-Kyler connection red hot- this offense is in big trouble. Let them go through the growing pains- keep looking his way

 

[BullheadCardFan]

The question is would DHop make those catches?

Or any other #1 WR?

 

[602 Native]

Week 1: K1 needs to get MHJ the ball.

Week 3: K1 is forcing the ball to MHJ.

You people are unserious.

 

[BullheadCardFan]

You people are unserious.

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[Crimson Warrior]

I think it was a thing today, yes.

Not incessant, but certainly the INT was a forced throw.

Not the end of the world however.

 

[Timm Rosenbach]

The question is would DHop make those catches?

Or any other #1 WR?

Malik Nabers is making these catches already

 

[Chris_Sanders]

Malik Nabers is making these catches already

I didn't want to say it but Nabers isn't making these drops.

 

[oaken1]

Making the hard catch when the team needs a play is exactly Marvin's job. It's why he was drafted at #4 instead of #14

Growing pains suck but we need the connection to get there. So far both kyler and Marv seem to be dedicated to putting in the work.

 

[BullheadCardFan]

Making the hard catch when the team needs a play is exactly Marvin's job. It's why he was drafted at #4 instead of #14

Growing pains suck but we need the connection to get there. So far both kyler and Marv seem to be dedicated to putting in the work.

We'll see

 

[Proteus]

He made some extremely costly mistakes- but cmon man isn’t this a bit of an over reaction? I think there is a lot for him to learn from the game tape today.

Make no mistake though- if we can’t get MHjr-Kyler connection red hot- this offense is in big trouble. Let them go through the growing pains- keep looking his way

And there's already an over reaction thread.

 

[Proximo]

I think the only ball that was forced to him was the jump ball in the end zone. That was just a stupid decision.

 

[Chopper0080]

I didn't want to say it but Nabers isn't making these drops.

I would argue Nabers is running easier routes. These back shoulder fade routes are not high percentage routes which is why it takes a very good WR and near perfect timing to consistently be successful on them.

 

[Proteus]

I would argue Nabers is running easier routes. These back shoulder fade routes are not high percentage routes which is why it takes a very good WR and near perfect timing to consistently be successful on them.

Mhj isn't at the DHop or Fitz level yet alas.

 

[Red Bird]

Didn’t Nabers have a crucial drop last week against Washington?

 

[Chris_Sanders]

I would argue Nabers is running easier routes. These back shoulder fade routes are not high percentage routes which is why it takes a very good WR and near perfect timing to consistently be successful on them.

He dropped a slant in the end zone. He has had bad drops in every game. Multiple fade throws and he can't adjust.

He can miss on the tough stuff. He is losing on the easy stuff

 

[BirdGangThing]

10 receptions for 198 yards on 21 targets (66 ypg)
9 first downs and 3 touchdowns in 3 games
19.8 yard avg - longest reception went for 60 yards

that's all with no preseason - but i get it - thread is about forcing the ball to mhj which is honestly fine when murray is throwing dimes but that wasn't the case today

it hasn't been bad and it'll only get better - i like that kyler has the confidence in him but there's a reason you throw it to the open receiver

15th in receiving yds (4 teams stats left to add)
only 3 other wide receivers have 3 tds

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[BACH]

I didn't want to say it but Nabers isn't making these drops.

Nabers doesn't fit the scheme as well and seem to have a character that this team do not want.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Nabers doesn't fit the scheme as well and seem to have a character that this team do not want.

What character is that?

 

[GatorAZ]

Nabers is built different but I think Marv will be elite in year two. People can blame Petzing but he doesn’t draw up plays that are supposed to be thrown into double coverage. Kyler has to go thru this progressions better.

 

[Phrazbit]

I didn't want to say it but Nabers isn't making these drops.

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That drop cost them a game.

Nabers has been targeted 37 times so far. He's making some plays but he is by no means a vacuum.

 

[BACH]

What character is that?

There were a rumors about him not beign a good player to add to your locker room before the draft.

 

[GeorgiaCard88]

There were a rumors about him not beign a good player to add to your locker room before the draft.

Honestly listening to the kid talk during the preseason- he really reminds me of Odell Beckham jr. I could see a scenario where he is toxic. 3 games in the season - I’d confidently still take MHJr in the long term for now

 

[Stout]

I think it was a thing today, yes.

Not incessant, but certainly the INT was a forced throw.

Not the end of the world however.

These kinds of games are why we get on Kyler, Crimson. He has this kind of game too often. We are not going to win many games when he plays like this, when he tries to force it where he shouldn't. He has the physical skills to force those kinds of plays, but only sometimes. Usually they're killers.

He's been great for one game, and good for half of game 1 and the very start of this one. He's been pretty terrible outside of that. We need more consistency out of him. Still, this long into his career.