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How you're playing has nothing to do with the Pro Bowl. The Pro Bowl is more about how people think you are playing. Rep carries a long way. Marshon Lattimore made the Pro Bowl bowl for years based on a couple of great seasons.
Did you reply to the wrong person? Not sure what any of this has to do with my post.
 

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Budda for sure pro Bowl 100%. But 1st team all pro? Just don't think he should be with how one dimensional he is. As well as his complete lack of creating turnovers.
but his one dimension is a level above most of his peers.
 

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but his one dimension is a level above most of his peers.
Ehhh still not all pro. Pro Bowler? 100%

We are in week 10 now and not a single FF, not a single Int, Only 4 TFL. A whopping 2 passes defended in 9 full games. If that’s all pro to anyone then good for them. Not me.
 

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I'm thinking McBride is closer to All-pro than Budda. McKinny is a DPOY candidate at S

McBride is a an odds on favorite for the Pro Bowl no?

He's 2nd in the NFC in yards (and only 22 behind leader) and with a fair wind should break 1000 yards. Next closest NFC contender is Kyle Pitts who's 50 yards back.

People aren't going to love this heuristic, but McBride is TE6 and 41st overall in Fantasy (per PFR). Four of the five TEs above him also play in the NFC. George Kittle has only played in seven games and he's still TE1.
 

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Budda has played so well you have to consider keeping him at his ridiculous salary
No need to pay him a ridiculous salary, as really no safeties are making ridiculous money these days. 10 per should do it.


Edit: Yikes...maybe I'd go 12 or 13, but 15M per year, especially with what we have invested in Thompson as well seems like a lot.
 

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No need to pay him a ridiculous salary, as really no safeties are making ridiculous money these days. 10 per should do it.


Edit: Yikes...maybe I'd go 12 or 13, but 15M per year, especially with what we have invested in Thompson as well seems like a lot.
I think it’s more about the guarantee monies.
 

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in the NFC

its really Kittle and McBride in competition for Pro Bowl Starter
 
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No need to pay him a ridiculous salary, as really no safeties are making ridiculous money these days. 10 per should do it.


Edit: Yikes...maybe I'd go 12 or 13, but 15M per year, especially with what we have invested in Thompson as well seems like a lot.

Thompson is the contract I want out of
 

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Yeah, hard to justify two huge salaries at S when you have many other positions that are desperately in need of good players.
When you don't have any other good players to pay it actually isn't that big a deal. That's the situation we're in right now. That money is just gonna roll over again.
 

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When you don't have any other good players to pay it actually isn't that big a deal. That's the situation we're in right now. That money is just gonna roll over again.
We are almost in "QB on a rookie contract" territory. Very little cap dollars tied up long term. There is no need to cut Jalen to move off of his contract. The reason you would trade him is to open up a spot for DTD and if you extend Budda.
 

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I really don't understand this love for Ryland. He has made a bunch of 30 yard kicks and a couple 50 yarders.

Somehow just doing his job like an average kicker makes him a pro bowler to you. I don't get it.
Sometimes you don't realize how important a good kicker is until you don't have one. We had some bad ones before Prater, who is 40 btw.
 

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Sometimes you don't realize how important a good kicker is until you don't have one. We had some bad ones before Prater, who is 40 btw.
When was the last time the Cardinals had a kicker who that only can kick from distance distance, but had multiple game winners?

Plus his kick off in the Bears game that landed in the zone and rolled into the end zone was a thing of beauty and the bears 10 yards
 

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Sometimes you don't realize how important a good kicker is until you don't have one. We had some bad ones before Prater, who is 40 btw.
When was the last time the Cardinals had a kicker who that only can kick from distance distance, but had multiple game winners?

Plus his kick off in the Bears game that landed in the zone and rolled into the end zone was a thing of beauty and the bears 10 yards
 

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We are almost in "QB on a rookie contract" territory. Very little cap dollars tied up long term. There is no need to cut Jalen to move off of his contract. The reason you would trade him is to open up a spot for DTD and if you extend Budda.

Yes, we should extend Budda, open up a spot for DTD, and clear Jalen's money.

You say no need to cut him because you know nobody is trading for that contract.
 

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How you're playing has nothing to do with the Pro Bowl. The Pro Bowl is more about how people think you are playing. Rep carries a long way. Marshon Lattimore made the Pro Bowl bowl for years based on a couple of great seasons.
That’s a BS argument people make every year.
How many bad players are named to the pro bowl?

Some lesser guys get in as replacements but the starting team is pretty much all guys that deserve it.
 

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That’s a BS argument people make every year.
How many bad players are named to the pro bowl?

Some lesser guys get in as replacements but the starting team is pretty much all guys that deserve it.

The starting team is never guys that deserve it, not wholly, and not for a long time.

The AFC offence last year started Tua and Mostert. Lamar, and Mahomes were reserves and Stroud and Minshew(!) were alternates. Does anyone think Tua was better last year than Lamar, Mahomes and Stroud? Mostert had the 5th most yards in the AFC but beat out James Cook and Henry. Mostert had a bunch of TD's because he ran in a lot of 5 yarders.

Budda made it last year and had a super meh year.

It's mostly good players (you get the odd Trubisky) but it's never all the best players. There's often 2-4 on each side where your like, "How did that guy make it over him?".
 
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