Winning breeds disappointment

[slanidrac16]

It just does. Going into the season I would think that 90% of this board would have taken 7-7 with at least a tiny opportunity for a playoff spot in mid December.
But not now. We had a little taste of success. We were 6-4 on a 4 game winning streak albeit against mainly patsie opponents. But we didn’t care.

Then we lost. Okay. Then we lost again. Dang it. But then we lost again and just like that we were 6-7. The thought of playoff sugar plums dancing in our heads were suddenly dashed.

Would we be happier if we were 3-11? Of course not. But man, when we get a taste of winning the losses just rip your heart out.

Making strides once were looked at with content. But not now. Barring a miracle ending to this 2024 season we will be here debating who needs to be fired, who needs to go and just what we need to do to get to the playoffs.

Every fan goes through it except for one. Every year we as fans are let down. When you ane eliminated from the playoff hunt. When you lose that first playoff game. Even when your team loses the Super Bowl.

The more you win, the bigger the disappointment. It’s just the way it is.

 

[oaken1]

Expectations change.
But I been expecting 10 wins for months. It's still possible

 

[Devilmaycare]

Would we be happier if we were 3-11? Of course not. But man, when we get a taste of winning the losses just rip your heart out.

I honestly think I would be. 3 wins would help to force a OC and QB change. Right now we're getting set up to be mired in a bunch of 7-8 win seasons and never getting real tractions going. Mikey B's always been fine treading water like that.

 

[WisconsinCard]

I honestly think I would be. 3 wins would help to force a OC and QB change. Right now we're getting set up to be mired in a bunch of 7-8 win seasons and never getting real tractions going. Mikey B's always been fine treading water like that.

Maybe, but it could also force MO to try and build the defense into a great defense. They're playing above expectations so it's possible a few pieces could make it great.

Then our run first, field position, and time of possession game means K1 doesn't have to be great. Just like today he wasn't great but good enough to win.

 

[cardcrazy]

I’m pretty happy with 7-7 at this point of the season.
I would consider a 9-8 record in JGs second season a success (10-7 would be unexpectedly welcome, and a playoff game, I would be one proud Card fan!)
It’s an improvement over 4-13 and a….winning record.
We have seen the offense click and when they did it was pretty impressive.
The defense has played with intensity and heart and fairly consistently.
I’m an optimist and I think we can build on this season and with some more pieces, be a contender next year.
IMO KM and JG showed improvement and deserve not only another chance but our backing for next year!
Go Cards! Let’s get this thing going!

 

[D-Dogg]

Petzing needs to be fired. Has been true all season.

But yeah, I get you.

 

[PJ1]

Blowing the 13 point lead in second half vs Vikings was painful. We really should have won that game. Losing twice to Geno Smith and the Hags with KM wilting under the pressure put a huge damper on the good feelings I had to that point.

 

[Russ Smith]

It's because for me, the Viking game we should have won and getting dominated twice by Seattle is hard to explain.

I watched a bunch of seattle and Green Bay today, the Packers are better than us we know that they handled us easily, but they just basically destroyed Seattle. Take away the one fumble and that game is a complete rout. Green Bay on offense didn't have near as much trouble with the Seahawks DL as we did, Love had time to throw and as a result guys open. Seattle's DL just completely destroyed our OL both times.

So that's kind of hard to look at and NOT think how far we are away from a team like the Packers

 

[Shane]

It's because for me, the Viking game we should have won and getting dominated twice by Seattle is hard to explain.

I watched a bunch of seattle and Green Bay today, the Packers are better than us we know that they handled us easily, but they just basically destroyed Seattle. Take away the one fumble and that game is a complete rout. Green Bay on offense didn't have near as much trouble with the Seahawks DL as we did, Love had time to throw and as a result guys open. Seattle's DL just completely destroyed our OL both times.

So that's kind of hard to look at and NOT think how far we are away from a team like the Packers

That would be great if that’s how the nfl worked… every game is different.

 

[Russ Smith]

That would be great if that’s how the nfl worked… every game is different.

Oh sure but the fundamental things in our 2 losses to Seattle were turnovers by Kyler, and that our OL couldn't block them. We couldn't run, and we couldn't run our offense because they destroyed us. Pressure, holding penalties, false starts it was a complete mismatch. in Seattle ok it's a noisy stadium, in Arizona, they still manhandled our OL.

 

[Stout]

I honestly think I would be. 3 wins would help to force a OC and QB change. Right now we're getting set up to be mired in a bunch of 7-8 win seasons and never getting real tractions going. Mikey B's always been fine treading water like that.

Someone compared it to the Jeff Fisher Rams. I think that's our high end if we keep rolling it back with Kyler and Monti keeps spurning to spend his FA dollars.

 

[DVontel]

Someone compared it to the Jeff Fisher Rams. I think that's our high end if we keep rolling it back with Kyler and Monti keeps spurning to spend his FA dollars.

Jeff Fisher Rams never finished with a winning record or even .500. It’s very possible we finish above that. I don’t think that’s a good comp at all.

 

[Stout]

Jeff Fisher Rams never finished with a winning record or even .500. It’s very possible we finish above that. I don’t think that’s a good comp at all.

The comp was referring to the team always hovering near .500, never breaking through, teasing a trip to the playoffs but never delivering. Perhaps we squeak into the playoffs a year for a first round loss, but that would be about it. If we upgrade on Kyler or Monti does finally fully try to build a team in an offseason, the comp could change for me. Until then, I think it's a good comp for the reasons I described.

 

[DVontel]

The comp was referring to the team always hovering near .500, never breaking through, teasing a trip to the playoffs but never delivering. Perhaps we squeak into the playoffs a year for a first round loss, but that would be about it. If we upgrade on Kyler or Monti does finally fully try to build a team in an offseason, the comp could change for me. Until then, I think it's a good comp for the reasons I described.

Except the Jeff Fisher Rams never did any of what you said.

They never were .500
They never teased a trip to the playoffs.
They were always undisciplined.
They underachieved relative to their talent level while it looks like we’ll overachieve to where our current talent level is at.


I’m sorry, but that comp is just an awful one. There has gotta be much better ones out there.

 

[602 Native]

Keep this doomer nonsense in the darksiders thread.

Lighten up Eor

 

[Harry]

I started out expecting 8-9. The Robinson injury and other Dline injury losses hurt more than many realized. As the season progressed I thought the Cards were better than Seattle and 10 wins was possible. I was wrong. 2 losses prove Seattle was better. So much of success in the NFL is about individual matchups. The Seattle teams Dline tackle strength was too much for the Cards. So the Cards will end up about where I expected. I’m satisfied as I believe it’s plausible to achieve significant improvement this off season. I also think the vast majority of Ossenfort’s moves last season were successful. There has been criticism about unmade moves, but I think he wanted to see how the moves he made worked out before committing too much capital in that direction. That may be conservative, but seems logical. He’s new to the job. On the whole, the coaching staff has exceeded expectations. My main criticism of that staff would be WR development. Fundamental skills such as coming back or mirroring the direction of a scrambling QB have not been taught. If taught they are not being enforced. I realize the lack of overall speed condenses the receiving plane, hindering separation. Also Oline weakness has limited pocket time, again impacting deep routes and double moves. These are easily correctable. The Cards need a reliable speed receiver and also acquiring a developmental prospect would seem the needed direction. Still I want a new WR coach. On the whole the Cards seem on the correct path.

 

[Stout]

Except the Jeff Fisher Rams never did any of what you said.

They never were .500
They never teased a trip to the playoffs.
They were always undisciplined.
They underachieved relative to their talent level while it looks like we’ll overachieve to where our current talent level is at.


I’m sorry, but that comp is just an awful one. There has gotta be much better ones out there.

Way to misquote. I said hovered near .500, not WERE .500. Which is 100 percent accurate. You are wrong there.

Never teased a trip to the playoffs? They always seemed to be "in the hunt" but never got there while underachieving. How else do you tease a trip to the playoffs, pray tell? Do you have to be seconds away from securing the playoffs? Do you have a dictionary definition I am unaware of? LOL

I can agree with your other points. That's why it's a comp and not a direct correlation, especially given the sources of the underachievement. There are definite similarities. You don't personally like the comp so you declare it awful. Par for the course.

 

[Stout]

Keep this doomer nonsense in the darksiders thread.

Lighten up Eor

Honestly, you gave me a laugh as I imagined you pouting and throwing a "Stout's ruining the message board!" tantrum behind your keyboard.

I mean, a guy obsessed with one player telling another poster exactly how to post. Another good laugh!

 

[602 Native]

Honestly, you gave me a laugh as I imagined you pouting and throwing a "Stout's ruining the message board!" tantrum behind your keyboard.

I mean, a guy obsessed with one player telling another poster exactly how to post. Another good laugh!

I’m just a realist masquerading as an optimist.

 

[DVontel]

You don't personally like the comp so you declare it awful. Par for the course.

It’s not about me not liking it. It’s just an awful comp, Stout. I know you’re much better than that.

 

[slanidrac16]

Petzing needs to be fired. Has been true all season.

But yeah, I get you.

The debate will continue. Is it Kyler? Does he handcuff Petzing? Is it Petzing?
Stay tuned.

 

[HairZach]

I think some of the disappointment comes from it being week 15. Anyone who drafted Kyler or Marv to their fantasy team just got booted from the playoffs

 

[TheCardFan]

Someone compared it to the Jeff Fisher Rams. I think that's our high end if we keep rolling it back with Kyler and Monti keeps spurning to spend his FA dollars.

We are in year 2 of MO/JG...looking at double the wins with a subpar roster.

Completely over performing based on 90% of Cardinal fans this year.

Comparing this to Jeff Fisher? C'mon man!

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

We are in year 2 of MO/JG...looking at double the wins with a subpar roster.

Completely over performing based on 90% of Cardinal fans this year.

Comparing this to Jeff Fisher? C'mon man!

90%? Is that what the preseason poll showed? I recall a lot of people thinking we’d win 7-10 games this season.

 

[Stout]

90%? Is that what the preseason poll showed? I recall a lot of people thinking we’d win 7-10 games this season.

Preseason I went with 6. Nick Rallis has really bailed this team out. If this defense had been playing to it's talent level, we'd be lucky to reach 6 wins.