Clean House- K1, JG, MO

[Carolinacacti]

They gave me the over with 7 wins not sure way some people are upset. Be happy, listen to some reggae

 

[Russ Smith]

The Zach Allen one will never stop bothering me. I remember during the season being incredulous when people said we were probably going to let him walk, don't be stupid they won't do that. They did. Same with Murphy but moreso Allen because it was a team weakness. Watt retired, we'd let Chandler Jones go, allen was our best DL and we just let him go. He's never going to be JJ Watt but he's a good player who plays hard.

That was a huge mistake.

 

[kerouac9]

Those are all great examples and we'll see if they have long term sustainability. The Chargers and Broncos both hired HOF coaches, which is a big deal. The Commanders got the best QB in the draft and have felt a QB away for several years now.

Time will tell. I'd rather tear it down and start over after what we saw from Keim with both KK and Wilks. We've been doing patch work quick fixes for 20 years and I'm ready to try something new and happy with where we're going. I'm also on the "dump Kyler club" now too.

I do not know how you can trust Monti and Gannon’s judgement after they went all in on Kyler.

Either they were lying or they were wrong but either way it ain’t a promising start.

 

[kerouac9]

Agreed. The easiest leap for most teams is from gawd awful to mediocre. You literally have to just not be awful. In a league built for parity that’s the easiest step. And if this team loses out (which it easily could) a step from 4 wins to 7 is just that, meeting expectations. If you can’t make that step you’re just terrible at your job.

To think otherwise is a loser s mentality. I get it, we’re all cards fans, so we’ve been conditioned to have low standards. But to think finishing 3 games under .500 would be something to be ecstatic about is not how most nfl fans would react.

Yeah we can go back to the preseason expectations thread and less than six wins was by far a minority position—with the expectation that the Rams and Niners would be good.

Some of the strum and drang here is because the division was worse than we anticipated but the results will be about the same.

It’s gonna be real bad if we end up 2-4 in the division.

 

[BullheadCardFan]

I do not know how you can trust Monti and Gannon’s judgement after they went all in on Kyler.

Either they were lying or they were wrong but either way it ain’t a promising start.

I'm thinking MB had something to do with that

"I'm not cutting this guy and eating the money. Find a way to make it work"

 

[PDXChris]

I'm thinking MB had something to do with that

"I'm not cutting this guy and eating the money. Find a way to make it work"

This! That was why I posted the Bears last 13 years. Hopefully Monti and Gannon can get their guy soon so this team truly is theirs. I was jealous watching Cooper Rush of all people last night.

 

[PDXChris]

I do not know how you can trust Monti and Gannon’s judgement after they went all in on Kyler.

Either they were lying or they were wrong but either way it ain’t a promising start.

You know why, I'm always an optimistic person with this team. Heck, it took until this week to turn on Kyler. Football is my escape and I like to look at it with Rose colored glasses! Heck, these are even my sunglasses! Life looks better this way for me!

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For the record, I love your brutal honesty and I know you're generally right, but in this case, I'm willing to wait to see how next season plays out. I've been saying since say one that I was giving them 3 years.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

You know why, I'm always an optimistic person with this team. Heck, it took until this week to turn on Kyler. Football is my escape and I like to look at it with Rose colored glasses! Heck, these are even my sunglasses! Life looks better this way for me!

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For the record, I love your brutal honesty and I know you're generally right, but in this case, I'm willing to wait to see how next season plays out. I've been saying since say one that I was giving them 3 years.

They undoubtedly get three years. No matter the outcome of the final two games. Doesn’t mean there’s reason for optimism or expectations beyond pure hope.

 

[PDXChris]

They undoubtedly get three years. No matter the outcome of the final two games. Doesn’t mean there’s reason for optimism or expectations beyond pure hope.

I totally get that. My posts were in regards to the thread title and firing Monti and Gannon. That would be like firing a home builder for the house being drafty before the walls were closed off. I personally see a foundation and posted the 30 or so players that a part of that and who will all be back next year.

We'll see if it's solid after one more draft and 4-5 impact FA signings. If Monti doesn't spend this offseason, I'll turn on him. This for me the most important offseason for this regime.

 

[Phrazbit]

I don't see Gannon or Monti going anywhere for, at least, another full season.

Kyler could get shipped off though. I don't think they'll cut him, it's too much dead money, but if there is a market for him in a trade, and given the wacky QB trades I've seen the last few years, there are probably 2 or 3 teams that could talk themselves into shipping a pick 2nd or 3rd rounder for him.

They'd have to have an alternative in mind, my guess would be we sign Cousins on the cheap when Atlanta dumps him in March. Not an endorsement of Cousins though, I would not be thrilled to bring in another check down QB.

 

[AZ Native]

I totally get that. My posts were in regards to the thread title and firing Monti and Gannon. That would be like firing a home builder for the house being drafty before the walls were closed off. I personally see a foundation and posted the 30 or so players that a part of that and who will all be back next year.

We'll see if it's solid after one more draft and 4-5 impact FA signings. If Monti doesn't spend this offseason, I'll turn on him. This for me the most important offseason for this regime.

Great analogy.

 

[Cheesebeef]

I totally get that. My posts were in regards to the thread title and firing Monti and Gannon. That would be like firing a home builder for the house being drafty before the walls were closed off. I personally see a foundation and posted the 30 or so players that a part of that and who will all be back next year.

We'll see if it's solid after one more draft and 4-5 impact FA signings. If Monti doesn't spend this offseason, I'll turn on him. This for me the most important offseason for this regime.

4 or 5 impact FAs? There’s optimism and then there’s just smoking crack, Banky.

 

[Cheesebeef]

I don't see Gannon or Monti going anywhere for, at least, another full season.

Kyler could get shipped off though. I don't think they'll cut him, it's too much dead money, but if there is a market for him in a trade, and given the wacky QB trades I've seen the last few years, there are probably 2 or 3 teams that could talk themselves into shipping a pick 2nd or 3rd rounder for him.

They'd have to have an alternative in mind, my guess would be we sign Cousins on the cheap when Atlanta dumps him in March. Not an endorsement of Cousins though, I would not be thrilled to bring in another check down QB.

This is exactly what I’d suspect if they decided to move on from Kyler and found a willing suitor.

 

[WisconsinCard]

JG will get another chance with another QB before his seat warms up. He could be forced to make changes in his staff though

MO will get to hire at least one more coach before his seat gets warm

Both of these are iMO of course.

 

[AZ Native]

Nah, the offense sucks dude.

Yeah, with checkdown Charlie.

 

[kerouac9]

JG will get another chance with another QB before his seat warms up. He could be forced to make changes in his staff though

MO will get to hire at least one more coach before his seat gets warm

Both of these are iMO of course.

The full bears then

 

[unseenaz]

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...The joy is competition...

This is the first time I've seriously questioned if JG is the right guy.

MF'er, if your goal is to compete, go coach your kids. This is the NFL, winning is the joy.

 

[TJ]

I'm not calling for Monti and Gannon (or even Petzing) to be fired, but this leadership group is 11-21 so far with a -123 point differential. They don't really "deserve" the benefit of the doubt at this point, much less faith to continue to implement the program.

You have to give JG credit for doing something of substance with this roster. He has this team competitive with a patchwork defense, poor QB play, and no depth anywhere. Monti needs to be more aggressive in the offseason with signings and trades. Steve Keim left this team completely poopy.

 

[kerouac9]

He has this team competitive with a patchwork defense, poor QB play, and no depth anywhere.

I just see four non-factual statements here.

 

[TJ]

I just see four non-factual statements here.

Then elaborate, because I look at this roster and I have a hard time figuring out how we are a 7 win team with it, and the QB has looked like crap for some time

 

[D-Dogg]

Yeah, with checkdown Charlie.

There are more problems on the team than just Kyler, One-Note. Stop being exhausting.

 

[BullheadCardFan]

Jonathan Gannon calls Cardinals' collapse an "indictment on myself"

After limping to a 1-3 start, the Cardinals turned it around.

www.nbcsports.com

 

[Stout]

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...The joy is competition...

This is the first time I've seriously questioned if JG is the right guy.

MF'er, if your goal is to compete, go coach your kids. This is the NFL, winning is the joy.

Yeah, that is a very, very bad look. The only thing he should be saying is nothing, as in remaining tight-lipped, or expressing extreme displeasure on how the team has collapsed. I want to hear words like unacceptable, inexcusable, undisciplined, etc. "The joy is in the competition?" MFer please!

 

[WeBlitz]

Then elaborate, because I look at this roster and I have a hard time figuring out how we are a 7 win team with it, and the QB has looked like crap for some time

I will copy & paste my post I made in another thread that was seemingly ignored for the intended poster.

“Question. What makes you like the GM so much? It is still early, but it is starting to look like the GM made the wrong decision to trade out of Will Anderson and drafted the wrong WR in the first round.

He has also swung and miss on FAs more than he has hit this year.

I have also seen your posts of not being a believer in Darius Robinson and not liking that pick. Well….take a guess who drafted him?

Has Monti added some talent? Sure, but that’s such a low-bar to where Keim left it at until Monti’s arrival.

I just don’t understand where all of this assurance is coming from when it comes to Monti.“

This is not even accounting the misstep of not resigning Zach Allen who would easily be our best player on the front-seven. Now, if he absolutely wanted to follow Vance Joseph at all costs? That’s understandable. However, if it was a matter of money, that’s awful on Monti’s part.

I’m aware Kyler has been crappy. A majority of us are ready to move on from him. However, none of the missteps above have anything to do with Kyler. Those are all the moves, or lack of, the GM has made. I can somewhat understand with the coaching staff, but the GM does not deserve the slack you and some other guys are giving him.

 

[BullheadCardFan]

Yeah, that is a very, very bad look. The only thing he should be saying is nothing, as in remaining tight-lipped, or expressing extreme displeasure on how the team has collapsed. I want to hear words like unacceptable, inexcusable, undisciplined, etc. "The joy is in the competition?" MFer please!

Terrible reply

Talks a big game and shrivels up at the wrong moments, just like his team