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It would be absurd to think the Suns will beat the league-leading Cleveland Have-A-Beers Cavaliers next week; in fact they might get their rear end kicked. The only thing they have on the Cavaliers is Donovan Mitchell being undersized. But...it sure would be glorious if they did beat the Cavaliers. It would probably shock and annoy the league.
It is absurd.

Any team can win any given night, but to expect the Suns to beat a top tier team is laughable at this point.
 

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LOL, I just heard Draymond on his podcast talking about how Nurk threw a punch to get suspended because he didn't want to go against Draymond the next day. Then he went into his schtick about how Nurk needs to get some psychological help - you know just like Nurk said to him after their altercation.

I am not a Draymond fan, but I was laughing and found myself wondering if his theory about Nurk is right. All of which tells me how much I dislike Nurk. I hope he has played his last game with us.
 

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LOL, I just heard Draymond on his podcast talking about how Nurk threw a punch to get suspended because he didn't want to go against Draymond the next day. Then he went into his schtick about how Nurk needs to get some psychological help - you know just like Nurk said to him after their altercation.

I am not a Draymond fan, but I was laughing and found myself wondering if his theory about Nurk is right. All of which tells me how much I dislike Nurk. I hope he has played his last game with us.
It's not. Because Nurk already played against them since that time. They were talking about this on the radio. Draymond is an idiot and troll. After all the crap he has pulled he should be the last person talking about anybody getting help.
 

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LOL, I just heard Draymond on his podcast talking about how Nurk threw a punch to get suspended because he didn't want to go against Draymond the next day. Then he went into his schtick about how Nurk needs to get some psychological help - you know just like Nurk said to him after their altercation.

I am not a Draymond fan, but I was laughing and found myself wondering if his theory about Nurk is right. All of which tells me how much I dislike Nurk. I hope he has played his last game with us.

Yeah...no. Draymond is an idiot as Covert said.

I already hated Nurk before the Nurk/Green altercations, so there's that for me.
 
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The Suns are the only team in the NBA this season that has allowed an opponent to grab 20 or more offensive rebounds in at least 3 games, per
@Stathead.They all happened in the last eight days.

Which is part of why I stand by the fact Nurkic wasn't the sole problem. This team has many problems, Nurkic may be part of the problem but sitting him entirely and bringing Beal off the bench wasnt going to fix what ails the Suns. The whole team needs taken out back like Old Yeller.
 

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Which is part of why I stand by the fact Nurkic wasn't the sole problem. This team has many problems, Nurkic may be part of the problem but sitting him entirely and bringing Beal off the bench wasnt going to fix what ails the Suns. The whole team needs taken out back like Old Yeller.
Of course Nurk is 10% of the problem.

I literally have a problem with everyone in the Suns rotation minus Dunn, Jones, and possibly Morris.
 

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Of course Nurk is 10% of the problem.

I literally have a problem with everyone in the Suns rotation minus Dunn, Jones, and possibly Morris.

I'd swap Jones for Royce on the list that gets a pass but I'd agree outside of that.


If Nurkic was willing to accept a bench role here though he could reduce his percentage some now that we have Richards to start. I think we're going to see a multi-team deal within the next week though that sends Nurkic out of here so holding him for 2-3 games to ensure he's healthy isn't an issue. If he sits longer then I blame JJ for allowing this to linger.
 

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The Suns are not done making moves ahead of the trade deadline.

Phoenix is hopeful to acquire Jimmy Butler, but they plan to continue scouring the market for another impact move.

In the Nick Richards trade, Phoenix acquired a $3.3 million exception they can use immediately.
 

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The Suns are not done making moves ahead of the trade deadline.

Phoenix is hopeful to acquire Jimmy Butler, but they plan to continue scouring the market for another impact move.

In the Nick Richards trade, Phoenix acquired a $3.3 million exception they can use immediately.
I truly truly hope that it's just the Suns hoping they can get Butler without giving up much because of the situation. If it's beyond that? I am going to be sick.
 

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Evan Sidery
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The Suns are not done making moves ahead of the trade deadline.

Phoenix is hopeful to acquire Jimmy Butler, but they plan to continue scouring the market for another impact move.

In the Nick Richards trade, Phoenix acquired a $3.3 million exception they can use immediately.

That's only the veteran minimum. Maybe it helps in a few trades, but not many.
 
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Is Plumlee working with Oso on this shot? :shock:

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In the Nick Richards trade, Phoenix acquired a $3.3 million exception they can use immediately.

That's only the veteran minimum. Maybe it helps is a few trades, but not many.
Yeah, it's not that useful. It can't be combined with existing salaries (AFAIK anyways), and we can't send cash out due to 2nd apron rules, so at best we'd have to give up the 2nd round pick to take back a minimum salary.

Nothing super compelling in this list that is available: https://www.basketball-reference.com/contracts/players.html
 

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Among all starting centers with 20+ games this season, Jusuf Nurkic ranks 31st out of 33 in FG% at 45.2%.
Nurk's drop off has been almost as sudden as Chris Paul's. He went from being a solid contributor to completely dragging down the team in a short period of time.
 

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Nurk's drop off has been almost as sudden as Chris Paul's. He went from being a solid contributor to completely dragging down the team in a short period of time.
I think he's been dragging the team down ever since the end of February last season. And this year I think he's become aware of the writing on the wall and has been somewhere else mentally most games.
 

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Nurk's drop off has been almost as sudden as Chris Paul's. He went from being a solid contributor to completely dragging down the team in a short period of time.

Some are saying now that he shouldn't have dropped weight. Idk but being lighter and more mobile should have improved him, but I always thought he sucked.
 

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So looks like the Wizards will be missing 3 rotation players tomorrow as well:

Malcolm Brogdon
Marvin Bagley Jr
Saddiq Bey

Bey has been out all year, Brogdon's been out about a week and Bagley has been out since before Christmas.
 

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Long segment on 98.7 right now on the Suns. Talking about how you probably want to stay away from Butler and you definetly don't want to commit to him because he gets mad everywhere he plays.

Then that segwayed into how the Suns currently play with no passion or joy... and that neither did the Nets with Durant... and that his last couple seasons in Golden State were cloudy, which then went into them talking about how Durant is seperate from the team, he never plays within an offense, he plays his style, apart from whatever the team is doing and that is just how he is, at the same time Gambo is walking on egg shells to avoid hurting Durant's ego, qualifying everything and mentioning how individually great he is. They also went into how Booker is a reflection on the guys around him, he was fiery with Chris Paul, now he is laid back with Durant.

Yippie.

Durant is a cancer.

I don't know how bad we'd have to do between now and the trade deadline for us to move him, but it would probably be in the best interest of the team if it happened.
 

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Nurk's drop off has been almost as sudden as Chris Paul's. He went from being a solid contributor to completely dragging down the team in a short period of time.

The demise of Chris Paul has been greatly exaggerated. His health has been an issue, but at no point has he not been, at minimum, a good player.

Nurk went from being below average to being horrendous.
 
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