Suns 2024-2025 Season Discussions

[Mainstreet]

Gambo said it makes no sense to send these 3 picks to Miami for Butler considering that the Suns thought the 2031 was too much to ask for to get Butler. If you were going to send all 3 to Miami, you might as well have just sent the 2031.

It appears these 3 picks might be for multiple moves.

This is my thinking. Lots of moving pieces in this trade and they have used King's Solomon's wisdom in a reverse sort of way.

 

[Town Drunk]

I chuckled at the comments.

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[Hoop Head]

I'd rather have Middleton than Butler, especially if Portis is part of their package going to Miami.

 

[Mainstreet]

I so enjoy watching this stuff.

Maybe the Suns can divide their three first round picks again or turn them into a gazillion second round picks.

I don't think the NBA and their fans, including myself, were prepared for Mat Ishbia

Just give me the three first round picks to make other moves. I'm not locked into Jimmy Butler.

 

[Mainstreet]

I'd rather have Middleton than Butler, especially if Portis is part of their package going to Miami.

I'd like to get Portis. I bet the Suns will use at least one of their first round pick to move Nurkic.

 

[hcsilla]

I so enjoy watching this stuff.

Maybe the Suns can divide their three first round picks again or turn them into a gazillion second round picks.

Which will replace the ones that were traded for Beal.

 

[hcsilla]

Gambo said it makes no sense to send these 3 picks to Miami for Butler considering that the Suns thought the 2031 was too much to ask for to get Butler. If you were going to send all 3 to Miami, you might as well have just sent the 2031.

Sounds logical.

It appears these 3 picks might be for multiple moves.

Or the Suns will keep at least one of these picks.

 

[Mainstreet]

Which will replace the ones that were traded for Beal.

I don't think Ishbia dwells on the past. He keeps moving forward.

My guess is he is already planning for future moves down the road.

 

[Yuma]

I don't think Ishbia dwells on the past. He keeps moving forward.

My guess is he is already planning for future moves down the road.

One big move would be getting under the aprons. Then he could use the biggest asset he has, cash!

 

[Mainstreet]

So if we acquire Butler; is it out of the realm of possibility that this is a final swing for the fences and if things continue to trend down next year, that Ishbia just jettisons all the stars to recoup and start over?

I don't think the word “failure” is in Ishbia's vocabulary.

 

[Mainstreet]

What the Suns are doing is nothing short of magic. I can't wait to see what is behind the curtain.

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Sources: Suns loading up with 3 1st-round picks

The Suns -- among the preferred trade destinations for Heat star Jimmy Butler -- are trading their 2031 first-rounder to the Jazz for three first-rounders, sources said.

www.espn.com

 

[mjb21aztd]

Wowzersss on trade be intrestin if all these picks used in butler deal...

Gonna find out pretty soon

Suns need to try somethin cause current roster wouldnt survive poffs

 

[Yuma]

I am really kinda hoping the Butler trade falls through.

 

[Mainstreet]

I am really kinda hoping the Butler trade falls through.

I'm sure a lot of fans can conjure up better trades than Butler.

 

[Mainstreet]

This could be the framework of the trade if the Suns acquire Jimmy Butler.

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[Yuma]

I'm sure a lot of fans can conjure up better trades than Butler.

I just don't see it. When it was Butler for Beal and we were stuck with either/or it kinda made sense. But if Butler ends up somewhere else, I would have just moved him if that was the case. Butler feels like Beal, again.

 

[mjb21aztd]

This could be the framework of the trade if the Suns acquire Jimmy Butler.

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that pic brings vibes to me would be crazy to maybeeee just maybeee see book jimmy buckets and kd on suns

 

[Finito]

I legitimately hate all of this unless it’s the start of a rebuild. Trading for a 35 year old Jimmy Butler would be down right laughable

 

[elindholm]

So if we acquire Butler; is it out of the realm of possibility that this is a final swing for the fences and if things continue to trend down next year, that Ishbia just jettisons all the stars to recoup and start over?

How do you "jettison" them? Their contracts will all have negative value, especially once Butler is inevitably extended.

 

[Proximo]

I don't think Ishbia dwells on the past. He keeps moving forward.

My guess is he is already planning for future moves down the road.

I would argue he doesn’t look to the future or the past only the present.

There is absolutely no planning beyond this season or he would not be making this move.

 

[Yuma]

How do you "jettison" them? Their contracts will all have negative value, especially once Butler is inevitably extended.

Also, KD. If you are extending one, you will the other. We are looking at second apron for a couple more years it seems.

 

[Mainstreet]

I just don't see it. When it was Butler for Beal and we were stuck with either/or it kinda made sense. But if Butler ends up somewhere else, I would have just moved him if that was the case. Butler feels like Beal, again.

Butler can play any position, from shooting guard to power forward. This is an exciting possibility.

Then, say the Suns attach a first round pick and trade Nurkic for a better center.

Suddenly, the Suns are a much stronger team, at least on paper. Also remember, expiring contracts will have value down the road.

No team has an open window forever.

 

[Suns_fan69]

How do you "jettison" them? Their contracts will all have negative value, especially once Butler is inevitably extended.

* Trade Booker which should have good value
* Trade Durant which will get minimal returns given his age and extension needs
* Let Butler rot until his contract expires, which I guess is no worse than letting Beal rot until his contract expires

I don't think we can stretch/waive until the Nasir Little stretch/waive expires.

I guess from that aspect having Butler isn't materially worse than Beal, and possibly marginally better as there's no NTC to contend with.

 

[Proximo]

How do you "jettison" them? Their contracts will all have negative value, especially once Butler is inevitably extended.

Not only that but when we spectacularly fail and miss the playoffs anyway or get swept in the first round how does that not further degrade the value of our “stars”

 

[Proximo]

* Trade Booker which should have good value
* Trade Durant which will get minimal returns given his age and extension needs
* Let Butler rot until his contract expires, which I guess is no worse than letting Beal rot until his contract expires

I don't think we can stretch/waive until the Nasir Little stretch/waive expires.

I guess from that aspect having Butler isn't materially worse than Beal, and possibly marginally better as there's no NTC to contend with.

Having butler is worse. He is 4 years older, and he is known to raise hell when he isn’t happy.