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  1. CardsSunsDbacks

    Nets @ Suns Wednesday game thread 12-13-2023

    That doesn't turn mediocre into terrible though. Something can be both below standards and not terrible at the same time..
  2. CardsSunsDbacks

    Nets @ Suns Wednesday game thread 12-13-2023

    Failed miserably? The first game 100% should have been a win if not for a fluke turnover in the last seconds. 2nd game we had a miserable start, but fought back and probably should have gotten the win as well. You act like they came in and flat out kicked our ass in both games. Not what happened.
  3. CardsSunsDbacks

    Nets @ Suns Wednesday game thread 12-13-2023

    I keep seeing this sentiment that we are "absolutely terrible" on defense, but the numbers say we are mediocre. If you look closely you can see that a lot of our issues are continuity related with players making the wrong reads and rotations. This is largely a combination of communication...
  4. CardsSunsDbacks

    Nets @ Suns Wednesday game thread 12-13-2023

    That would make a lot more sense if Vogel didn't have a history of coaching good defensive teams. This team doesn't have the strongest defensive talent and they are learning to integrate a poo ton of moving parts in at once. They have still managed to be ranked as a mediocre defense despite...
  5. CardsSunsDbacks

    Nets @ Suns Wednesday game thread 12-13-2023

    That reason is a someone named LeBron. If he has a single disappointing year than some sort of major change has to happen.
  6. CardsSunsDbacks

    Nets @ Suns Wednesday game thread 12-13-2023

    Need to see what this team looks like for a healthy 10-15 game stretch. Hopefully that stretch is coming up right now. Beal does not have his legs right now and looks tired half the time he has been out there the last couple games. He will likely be looking more explosive after he gets his legs...
  7. CardsSunsDbacks

    Nets @ Suns Wednesday game thread 12-13-2023

    You do realize Vogel had a coaching career before he was "along for the ride" with the Lakers right? Can't particularly disagree with JJ, but we haven't exactly seen this team at or near full strength yet.
  8. CardsSunsDbacks

    Nets @ Suns Wednesday game thread 12-13-2023

    Y'all are hilarious after losses, lol. Take a deep breath, all is not lost.
  9. CardsSunsDbacks

    Nets @ Suns Wednesday game thread 12-13-2023

    And down by 4 instead of 2. Not sure I know of anyone that would use that strategy in that exact scenario.
  10. CardsSunsDbacks

    Nets @ Suns Wednesday game thread 12-13-2023

    Two of which are just now coming off injuries. They are hardly ready to carry a team with zero depth.
  11. CardsSunsDbacks

    Nets @ Suns Wednesday game thread 12-13-2023

    Dumb how? They get a stop and they can tie or take the lead. They were also almost rewarded by almost forcing the turnover, but got a little unlucky with the save slipping through Book's fingers.
  12. CardsSunsDbacks

    2023-24 Around the NBA Thread

    I have no idea what the parameters are, but I imagine it will involve a certain amount of hours of seeing a psychiatrist. Could also involve a minimum amount of games missed, but you have to imagine at least 10 games.
  13. CardsSunsDbacks

    Nets @ Suns Wednesday game thread 12-13-2023

    Because there was 4 seconds between the shot and game clock..
  14. CardsSunsDbacks

    Nets @ Suns Wednesday game thread 12-13-2023

    Hung with a decent, much younger team on the 2nd of a back to back. We are also fairly depleted in the 2nd unit. Not to mention it's literally the first game the big 3 have played together. It has certainly been ugly for stretches, but I feel like some of you are being way too harsh with this...
  15. CardsSunsDbacks

    Nets @ Suns Wednesday game thread 12-13-2023

    So close to a steal...
  16. CardsSunsDbacks

    Nets @ Suns Wednesday game thread 12-13-2023

    ugh....
  17. CardsSunsDbacks

    Nets @ Suns Wednesday game thread 12-13-2023

    Nas needs to clean it up a bit, my god..
  18. CardsSunsDbacks

    2023 ARZ Offseason

    He's also a high end starting pitcher..
  19. CardsSunsDbacks

    Nets @ Suns Wednesday game thread 12-13-2023

    What I am more so talking about is what Phrazbit stated above. They will get love from the crowd, doesn't mean the fans will cheer them in a way that they are willing them towards winning. Nor does that mean that it will be with the same energy as they would cheer on their own players.
  20. CardsSunsDbacks

    Nets @ Suns Wednesday game thread 12-13-2023

    If it were a playoff game or an important game late in the season I might agree, but it's a random regular season game a quarter of the way into the season. Don't see much of an issue with some fans cheering the good play of a couple former fan favorites in this scenario. :shrug:
  21. CardsSunsDbacks

    Suns updates and discussion for the 2023-24 season

    The one positive I could see is that just prior to tip off most people are still making their way to their seats and won't be paying much attention to the ceremony. At least this way most people would still be seated and likely more engaged in the ceremony. Or everyone will be in a hurry to...
  22. CardsSunsDbacks

    Mercury Hire New Coach

    I suppose I could see why some would question that, but if he knows how to behave around women and also knows how to coach than I think he will be just fine. Honestly kind of surprised the complaining isn't about the other thing TBH.
  23. CardsSunsDbacks

    Mercury Hire New Coach

    Is it because he isn't a woman or a person of color?
  24. CardsSunsDbacks

    2024 WNBA Draft Lottery

    Also, at least the Mercury stayed in the top 3. This being considered a 3 player draft by many, it at least mean we should end up with one of those 3 players.
  25. CardsSunsDbacks

    2024 WNBA Draft Lottery

    Need to see more of her this year, but my 2nd favorite is Paige. Having a player that can score and create at a high level is only becoming more important in basketball. I do like Brink a lot though. She can pretty much do everything you want from a F/C. Will be interesting to see who goes with...

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