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    Suns updates and discussion for the 2023-24 season

    I guess the biggest question is which is a bigger priority: defense or a PG?
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    Suns updates and discussion for the 2023-24 season

    Haven't followed Hardin, but I'm guessing he would be a liability on defense?
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    Do Suns blow it up?

    Yes. Good analysis. I always thought the team D with Bridges, Crowder, and a couple of the other players, even with a fairly useless Ayton, was vastly superior to this one if only because of the rotations. I don't think KD works. Beale is superior. Can't put my finger on it, but even though KD...
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    Do Suns blow it up?

    Good synopsis: 3 bigs, none of whom was big enough to win a single game in the series by themselves. I love Nurk's rebounding but the constant falls and whining about calls is counterproductive and you are right, he cannot move out on D at all. His shot-blocking is minimal. He cannot get his...
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    A Lost Year

    We kept waiting . . . First, for "all three of our bigs to get healthy." Then Beale came back. Then, for the team to gel. They did, kinda, but what they "gelled" into is completely inconsistent, defensively challenged, and uncoordinated. Then it's, "Well, they'll make a push for the playoffs."...
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    Raptors @ Suns, Thursday 3-7-24

    Agree. It's pretty clear that other teams move IMMEDIATELY to double KD and our #2 (closest to him) is slow to move. ALLEN should be #3 after they rotate on #2. He will be open every time. On Nurk, he has become far, far better than I thought. A thousand times better than Ayton. He still has...
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    The Grayson Allen thread

    I thought really for the first time all season last night vs. Raptors they were actively looking at him as either the 1st or second option. He should ALWAYS be the third one to get the ball when KD is doubled, to Beal or Book who will get closed-on/doubled and him in the corner. I think he has...
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    Suns @ Mavericks Wednesday game thread 1-24-2024

    Loved the last three games. No, don't like being behind, but this team absolutely doesn't quit and has character. 1) If Allen is open, he will hit it. End of story. 2) For his faults, Nurk battles and is a very solid D rebounder. He seems to tire easily. 3) The 3-headed Scoring Hydra of KD...
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    Mavericks @ Suns Monday (Christmas Night) game thread 12-25-2023

    This team is 2 great players and 2-3 good players desperately searching for glue to hold them together and to make them work effectively.
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    Suns @ Kings Friday game thread 12-22-2023

    Yep. Agree. NEITHER center, though, has been effectively integrated into the O like Ayton was in the season we got to the finals. (After that, once they took away CP3's lobs, Ayton became nearly a non-factor).
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    Suns @ Kings Friday game thread 12-22-2023

    I had concerns too, which I expressed here. KD is a great player and there was never, ever a doubt about that. The concerns were two: 1) Did we lose so much in defense that we couldn't make it up, and 2) what did we do to address the loss of Paul in the scheme of the trade? We had already lost a...
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    Suns updates and discussion for the 2023-24 season

    Well, this was one of those things I kept referring to when we lost Bridges. I don't ese KD making this up. Now, without a McGhee in the middle, we have no real shot blocker either.
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    RIP: Walter Davis (1954-2023)

    See my pinned thread above, "Now the Story Can be Told." This was the part in my history of the Phoenix Suns that Jerry Colangelo threw a fit over. I only included the barest of facts about the Davis plea and rehab. I made no judgements at all. But Jerry didn't want that included in a history of...
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    The Ayton Plan

    Sharpe is right. But there is also a very, very serious defensive problem. Whether it is missing Bridges/Crowder, or something else, but teams were consistently getting over 100 on us in the playoffs.
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    Formula for success

    Well, Ross disappeared. Craig disappeared. Virtually everyone (consistently) except KD and Book disappeared, as did our D.
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    2023 Phoenix Suns Offseason

    You are correct, in that playoffs are a totally different season. We saw how radically worse the bench was during the playoffs. We had two players, Book and KD, who could play at "season" level in playoffs. That said, I don't know how we do it but we need to get MUCH better defensively, and I...
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    2023 Phoenix Suns Offseason

    Whatever/wherever Ayton goes, the #1 goal should be to land 2 stellar defensive players. Our defense was just terrible in the playoffs. Once the reg season ended, the bench disappeared defensively. . . and I was singing Akogi's praises before that. We lost two very good defensive players in...
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    Should Ayton be Traded?

    I'm pretty much alone here. I said he should have been traded before, almost regardless of the hit. He plays too soft, is MIA on offensive rebounding, is not a consistent rim protector. Yeah, so Jocic manhandled Jock and Bismack. He pretty much did that to Ayton too, though I would defer to...
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    Monty Williams Fired (Hired by Detroit)

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/stars-basically-quit-kendrick-perkins-slams-joel-embiid-james-harden-in-defense-of-doc-rivers/ar-AA1bbBqm?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=706a2b6d942e4461a696665b9396a01c&ei=15 Interesting: the Philly fans/media think Embiid and Harden quit. Except for the last...
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    Monty Williams Fired (Hired by Detroit)

    I've asked this for, perhaps, longer than you've been alive :)
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    2023 Phoenix Suns Offseason

    Bingo. But what I don't hear much around here is that our main failing is our DEFENSE. We were giving up over 100 per game against Denver. Would have been torched if Leonard and George had played for the Clips. I'm not saying Bridges was Mr. Lockdown, but we lost a lot of D with him and Crowder...
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    2023 Phoenix Suns Offseason

    Surveying the news stories: 1) Both Ayton and CP3 will be "aggressively shopped" in the offseason; 2) more than a few calls for Monty Williams' job. 3: consensus is Suns will totally rebuild around Book/KD. The whole bench needs to go except Londale, who played his heart out every time he went in.
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    Playoffs: Nuggets @ Suns Thursday game thread 5-11-2023 - Game 6

    I argued against the KD trade---but as you say, sometimes you take a shot. Unfortunately, that shot cost us our future and a lot of trade leverage. It dramatically weakened our overall D (combined with the loss of Crowder). Ayton must go, and we need to rebuild as if KD won't be there, and focus...
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    A glance at the season

    Agree. I wanted KD to work, but as you see in my threads I thought long-term this was a bad deal. Not just for his age, but because we gave up Bridges. Cam Johnson was hot and cold. When you look at the loss of Crowder (I get it, you can't keep someone who doesn't want to be here) and Bridges...
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    Bring it! No suspension for Jokic.

    Me too. Doesn't help us to beat subpar teams.

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