10 thoughts - Seahawks game

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In the opener in Buffalo, with about a minute left, he missed a completely open Marvin Harrison who could have walked backwards into the endzone for the game winner.

Anyway, it has not always been on his own, but as a quarterback he is obviously highly involved. Especially in the blowouts against Washington and Green Bay he had a lot of misses.
Not sure about this one. Kurt Warner did a review of the play and basically said that it would of been a very difficult throw based on what was occurring around Kyler.
 

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Well, when has he been a superstar? Nobody, outside of a few posters, has thought he's a superstar. I like the title advanced game manager.
There have been superstar plays... I daresay even a superstar series or two.
But never a superstar game...nor even back to back star level games.
 

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He can do that, no question. He doesn't do it often enough to be a superstar, and he doesn't take over games like a Mahommey or Brady and carry the team to wins. So maybe an Advanced Game Manager Plus? :)
Then we just disagree on the term.

Agree on the not superstar.

I think anything with the term game manager is related to a lower bracket of qbs than Kyler belongs to
 
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Not sure about this one. Kurt Warner did a review of the play and basically said that it would of been a very difficult throw based on what was occurring around Kyler.
I don’t know, Red. I have seen the video with Warner, but I am not sure I agree with his assessment. As I see it, there is a window in which Murray looks in Harrison’s direction and has time to throw the ball. Not saying Warner is wrong. I just don’t see it.
 
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I think anything with the term game manager is related to a lower bracket of qbs than Kyler belongs to
I think many people feel like you, Bach. I guess I just don’t see it as a bad thing to be a game manager, and specifically in the case of Kyler Murray, I have been excited to see how well he performs when he is kind of only executing the system. I feel like we as viewers can see and sense that, even though we obviously don’t know the playcalls. It feels to me like it often goes wrong when he is trying to do too much to carry the team on his back.

I don’t know if I should just quickly underline that I don’t think Murray is a bad quarterback. Not at all. More than half the league would be thrilled to have a quarterback like that, and I am too. It is the instability that bothers me, and – I think – will keep the team from going all the way.
 
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This hasn’t been true at all outside of Josh Allen & Lamar this season.
Really? I haven’t seen all, but I don’t feel like Joe Burrow, Mahomes, Jared Goff have costed multiple games? Justin Herbert? I mean, sure they have bad plays, but that big mistakes?
 

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I think many people feel like you, Bach. I guess I just don’t see it as a bad thing to be a game manager, and specifically in the case of Kyler Murray, I have been excited to see how well he performs when he is kind of only executing the system. I feel like we as viewers can see and sense that, even though we obviously don’t know the playcalls. It feels to me like it often goes wrong when he is trying to do too much to carry the team on his back.

I don’t know if I should just quickly underline that I don’t think Murray is a bad quarterback. Not at all. More than half the league would be thrilled to have a quarterback like that, and I am too. It is the instability that bothers me, and – I think – will keep the team from going all the way.
This is a good analysis.
 
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