10 Worst Moves of the Offseason

[jbeecham]

I completely disagree.
With Amare's return Boris was not going to have the kind of year STAT wise
(no pun indended) he did last year. He still does the little things and has good count sense and can give us 12-7-7 each game.

Not only could Boris have improved his game this season, he needed to improve and he hasn't. He got a huge raise in pay and he's a near max player now and his stats have all decreased. You can blame Amare's return for causing it, but he's done it to himself. He came into camp out of shape and without any new skills. His jumper is still questionable, he's lost his aggressiveness going to the basket, his defense looks worse. He's averaging 3.3 less ppg, 2.1 less rpg, and 1.0 less assists per game while committing roughly the same amount of turnovers as last season per game in 3 less mpg.

When you quadruple a players yearly salary (and his agent initially demanded even more money 5yrs $50 mil), you expect improvement and dedication to winning. So in my opinion, Boris hasn't lived up to his end of the contract and I'm someone who watches every game. Now imagine you're an ESPN sportwriter that only catches a Suns game once in a while and sees a dropoff in production after being given a big contract and you'd expect them to react worse than I have.

 

[JCSunsfan]

Not only could Boris have improved his game this season, he needed to improve and he hasn't. He got a huge raise in pay and he's a near max player now and his stats have all decreased. You can blame Amare's return for causing it, but he's done it to himself. He came into camp out of shape and without any new skills. His jumper is still questionable, he's lost his aggressiveness going to the basket, his defense looks worse. He's averaging 3.3 less ppg, 2.1 less rpg, and 1.0 less assists per game while committing roughly the same amount of turnovers as last season per game in 3 less mpg.

When you quadruple a players yearly salary (and his agent initially demanded even more money 5yrs $50 mil), you expect improvement and dedication to winning. So in my opinion, Boris hasn't lived up to his end of the contract and I'm someone who watches every game. Now imagine you're an ESPN sportwriter that only catches a Suns game once in a while and sees a dropoff in production after being given a big contract and you'd expect them to react worse than I have.

Boris was signed based upon the production he was already giving last year. Aside from the first few weeks (where he was out of shape) I don't believe Boris is producing much less (if at all) that MGMT expected him to produce this year.

Again Eddie Johnson, on the radio the other day, said that DAntoni understands what Boris does, and is still very high on Boris' and his present production. He said that people get frustrated with Boris because he doesn't show much emotion and people interpret that as lack of effort. He compared Boris to a player Eddie played with (was it Derrick McKey?) who played exactly the same way. Eddie indicated that that is what Boris is, and DAntoni understands it.

 

[Joe Mama]

I would have probably put the Marcus Banks signing a little bit lower, but it should definitely be on this list. Sofar Banks has been a big bust. I was passed that the Phoenix Suns passed on Marcus Williams in the draft, but I understood it. I liked the banks signing even though I wasn't enamored with the price.

Now, it looks like it was a bad move. Banks does little to nothing offensively as a point guard, and I would call his defense solid at best.

I definitely disagree with those of you who think his deal would be relatively easy to move. My guess is that it would cost that Atlanta draft pick to move Marcus Banks unless he starts showing a lot more... a lot, lot more.

I'll tell you why Boris Diaw should not be anywhere near this list. The Phoenix Suns are one of the very best teams in the NBA, and they would not be there without Boris Diaw and his skills. His numbers may be downed, but they should be. The team is completely healthy and loaded this year.

I wasn't happy with Boris Diaw for coming into camp out of shape. I wish he would've worked harder in the off-season, but IMO he isn't anywhere near being on this list.

Joe Mama

 

[Divide Et Impera]

Diaw is the ultimate zone buster. When a team is finally able to impede Nash's dominance, Diaw comes in and picks apart the zone from the high post. He is invaluable to this team....

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Every time Hollinger writes about the Suns, I feel like he's out to make up for his criticism of the Nash signing. Even when he finally admitted he was wrong, it ended up as a backhanded slap.

Nash's body will eventually give out, and Hollinger will write a column that ultimately justifies his criticism of that contract. Of course, Nash may already be into another contract considering the way he's going, but I assure you Hollinger is laying in wait for that day.

If Nash hurts himself playing with his twins, and never plays another game, *knock on wood* he has earned his contract.

 

[Skumbag]

Due to high demand, I will post the list:

1. Phoenix signs Marcus Banks
2. Knicks waive Ime Udoka, sign Jared Jeffries
3. Hornets sign Peja Stojakovic
4. Sixers re-sign Willie Green
5. Nuggets re-sign Nene
6. Hawks sign Speedy Claxton
7. Magic extend Tony Battie
8. Clippers sign Tim Thomas
9. Clippers extend Kaman
10. Pacers trade Austin Croshere for Marquis Daniels


There were several honorable mentions, but I'm too busy to post the rest of 'em.

What about Phoenix agreeing to pay Diaw an a$$ load of money

 

[JCSunsfan]

If Nash hurts himself playing with his twins, and never plays another game, *knock on wood* he has earned his contract.

That is the truth. We've already gotten every penny's worth out of Nash's deal. We're in gravy time now.

 

[Covert Rain]

That is the truth. We've already gotten every penny's worth out of Nash's deal. We're in gravy time now.

I agree too. In terms of Diaw, I think what Diaw does in terms of passing helps this team so much. When I knew Amare was coming back, I didn't expect Diaw to put up the same numbes. That is just silly. Here is Diaw's stats:

PPG
05-06 - 13.3
06-07 - 10.0

APG
05-06 - 6.2
06-07 - 5.2

RPG
05-06 - 6.9
06-07 - 4.8

Diaw is getting way fewer touches of the basketball then last year. People are stuck in the past remembering what Diaw did last year when we actually went to him often. Diaw is playing off ball much more this season.

For me, Diaw ppg is right around where I thought it would be although I think sometimes he defers to the other guys to often. Hi APG are only down 1. His RPG are probably the one that sticks out to me. However, with a healthy Kurt, Amare tearing up the boards and Marion doing his thing...how many boards do you think can go around?

I think Diaw could improve slightly on his scoring and rebounding but it's not like he has the same opportunities he did last year either.

 

[Errntknght]

I would have probably put the Marcus Banks signing a little bit lower, but it should definitely be on this list. Sofar Banks has been a big bust. I was passed that the Phoenix Suns passed on Marcus Williams in the draft, but I understood it. I liked the banks signing even though I wasn't enamored with the price.

Now, it looks like it was a bad move. Banks does little to nothing offensively as a point guard, and I would call his defense solid at best.

I definitely disagree with those of you who think his deal would be relatively easy to move. My guess is that it would cost that Atlanta draft pick to move Marcus Banks unless he starts showing a lot more... a lot, lot more.

I'll tell you why Boris Diaw should not be anywhere near this list. The Phoenix Suns are one of the very best teams in the NBA, and they would not be there without Boris Diaw and his skills. His numbers may be downed, but they should be. The team is completely healthy and loaded this year.

I wasn't happy with Boris Diaw for coming into camp out of shape. I wish he would've worked harder in the off-season, but IMO he isn't anywhere near being on this list.

Joe Mama

I don't actually have anything to add or subtract, Joe... I just wanted to say its nice to see you posting again! Right on target, too.

 

[Treesquid PhD]

Interesting that Gambo just said the Suns are looking to dump Marcus Banks.

 

[The Commish]

Interesting that Gambo just said the Suns are looking to dump Marcus Banks.

No surprise there.

 

[JCSunsfan]

Interesting that Gambo just said the Suns are looking to dump Marcus Banks.

I heard that. The reasoning is that Barbosa has developed as a distributor much more than they expected he would.

Still, what's the point of moving Banks except to dump his salary? Why not bring him along--even as an insurance policy.

There is certainly no reason to do something stupid like give up picks to get rid of him.

 

[Errntknght]

Too bad our coach and GM can't get on the same page... the coach seems to have no use at all for any of the four guys the GM brought in this past offseason.

Maybe when the coach is beating up the GM about his choices he can also convince him it wouldn't be a bad idea to risk using a draft pick now and then.

 

[The Commish]

Too bad our coach and GM can't get on the same page... the coach seems to have no use at all for any of the four guys the GM brought in this past offseason.

Maybe when the coach is beating up the GM about his choices he can also convince him it wouldn't be a bad idea to risk using a draft pick now and then.

So basically D'Antoni would be kickin his own ass? (Visions of Jim Carey in Liar Liar)

 

[zett]

So basically D'Antoni would be kickin his own ass? (Visions of Jim Carey in Liar Liar)

LMAO

 

[Mainstreet]

IMO, if the Suns move Marcus Banks they need to get a John Salmons type player in return or a big man with an expiring contract. Anyway I'm already starting to get nervous about the LT next season.

 

[Mainstreet]

Boris was signed based upon the production he was already giving last year. Aside from the first few weeks (where he was out of shape) I don't believe Boris is producing much less (if at all) that MGMT expected him to produce this year.

I too am very happy with production of Boris after the slow start. I think his ability to be a point forward is very under appreciated. Unfortunately, I think Amare and Boris play the same position and both need to be the go to player to be the most effective. I think if the Suns did not need Boris starting, he would be the perfect backup center to Amare. Since I think both players play the same position, Amare eats into Diaw's production.