11 AM presser Whiz is still here

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MB where are your nuts? No way should Whis be allowed back in the building after yesterday, ever.

Stupid crap! Raven's are going to win 10 or 11 games and they take action with poor coaching.
 

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Hey, like it or not, Kevin Kolb will probably cost Whis his job so if Whis wants to take a shot, let him.

The one thing I like about Whis is he doesnt' spout off. He does give pretty real answers. It isn't appropriate to talk about other coaches future because he doesn't know what is is going to be. He doesn't speak for other players. It doesn't bother me that he says he is disappointed in the defense because they should be disappointed at themselves. Part of being a team is that you cover for the other unit if needed. Everyone knows their isn't a solution for our QB situation out there so it is ridiculous to throw in the towel.

Despite his inability to improve the QB position (which then improves our offense) there are still many things Coach Whis does very well.

Personally, I think he shot in himself in the foot when he asked for final personnel authority. It sounds great in practice, but it usually leads to a coach over-extending himself. In his defense, the Cardinals personnel area was not a source of strength, especially in free agent signings.

If fired, he could go somewhere and be a very good offensive coordinator IMO. Same with Norv Turner.
 

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Hey at least Mr. Bill Bidwill had the nuts to fire a coach at half time if I remember right!
 

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I have never liked overly emotional head coaches. Personally I think a team should reflect their coach and I want a coach who is calm under pressure.

Unfortunately he is also clueless under pressure and right about now he is constantly under pressure.
 

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Personally, I think he shot in himself in the foot when he asked for final personnel authority. It sounds great in practice, but it usually leads to a coach over-extending himself. In his defense, the Cardinals personnel area was not a source of strength, especially in free agent signings.

If fired, he could go somewhere and be a very good offensive coordinator IMO. Same with Norv Turner.

It happens. It is why Mike Shannahan got fired from Denver, why Andy Reid will get fired from Philly and is why Mike Holmgren got fired from Seattle. Those are all good coaches but questionable personnel men. A legitimate GM gives a head coach a buffer on personnel issues just like a coordinator does on play calling and performance. Once you get rid of those buffers, it tends to give you very little wiggle room if things go bad.
 

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He feels he has let the fans down. :D

My guess is he truly does.

Whiz cared about us. Whether or not he's entirely to blame for this situation remains to be seen. But....

Who took the lap around UoP after we won the NFC slapping the hands of fans and saying, "Thank you. Thank you." The man has acknowledged what the fans have done repeatedly. (Including this year at Fan Fest.)

At the Fan Fest after the Super Bowl we were standing by the rope line as the players and coaches walked out to the practice field. As Whiz walked by I said, "In Whiz we trust." He stopped, turned around, walked back to me, looked me dead in the eye, smiled, shook my hand and said, "Thank you." I knew he 'got it'.

For better or worse I'll probably always be a Whiz fan. I just like the guy. (I liked him even more when he walked across the field with his head high to shake the hand of the POS named Pete Carroll, lol.)
 

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My guess is he truly does.

Whiz cared about us. Whether or not he's entirely to blame for this situation remains to be seen. But....

Who took the lap around UoP after we won the NFC slapping the hands of fans and saying, "Thank you. Thank you." The man has acknowledged what the fans have done repeatedly. (Including this year at Fan Fest.)

At the Fan Fest after the Super Bowl we were standing by the rope line as the players and coaches walked out to the practice field. As Whiz walked by I said, "In Whiz we trust." He stopped, turned around, walked back to me, looked me dead in the eye, smiled, shook my hand and said, "Thank you." I knew he 'got it'.

For better or worse I'll probably always be a Whiz fan. I just like the guy. (I liked him even more when he walked across the field with his head high to shake the hand of the POS named Pete Carroll, lol.)

Nice post! I am appreciative of the part he played in the Super Bowl run. He did it primarily with Denny's roster, but the fact remains he did it. He hired Todd Haley. He helped rehabilitate Kurt Warner. He turned a franchise that couldn't shoot straight into coming within 4 minutes of a Super Bowl victory. It's a tough thing to play out the string on a team that is going nowhere fast. Let the guy coach his final three games and wish him well in the future. Same with Norv and Andy.
 

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Hey, like it or not, Kevin Kolb will probably cost Whis his job so if Whis wants to take a shot, let him.

The one thing I like about Whis is he doesnt' spout off. He does give pretty real answers. It isn't appropriate to talk about other coaches future because he doesn't know what is is going to be. He doesn't speak for other players. It doesn't bother me that he says he is disappointed in the defense because they should be disappointed at themselves. Part of being a team is that you cover for the other unit if needed. Everyone knows their isn't a solution for our QB situation out there so it is ridiculous to throw in the towel.

Despite his inability to improve the QB position (which then improves our offense) there are still many things Coach Whis does very well.
I totally agree chopper, Wiz is still a class act man IMO, despite his knowledge of himself being dead man walking. I will always be a Wiz fan.
 

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It happens. It is why Mike Shannahan got fired from Denver, why Andy Reid will get fired from Philly and is why Mike Holmgren got fired from Seattle. Those are all good coaches but questionable personnel men. A legitimate GM gives a head coach a buffer on personnel issues just like a coordinator does on play calling and performance. Once you get rid of those buffers, it tends to give you very little wiggle room if things go bad.

Good points.

(But, I wonder what "final decision on personnel" actually means in practice. If it means he's the final word in the draft room and FA acquisitions that's one thing, if it simply means that he has to approve the 53 man roster and no player can be imposed on him, that's another.)
 

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I totally agree chopper, Wiz is still a class act man IMO, despite his knowledge of himself being dead man walking. I will always be a Wiz fan.

Don't be surprised if you have to live through "2013, the year of the living dead" with the possibility of a miraculous return to the land of the living after that... ;)
 

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My guess is he truly does.

Whiz cared about us. Whether or not he's entirely to blame for this situation remains to be seen. But....

Who took the lap around UoP after we won the NFC slapping the hands of fans and saying, "Thank you. Thank you." The man has acknowledged what the fans have done repeatedly. (Including this year at Fan Fest.)

At the Fan Fest after the Super Bowl we were standing by the rope line as the players and coaches walked out to the practice field. As Whiz walked by I said, "In Whiz we trust." He stopped, turned around, walked back to me, looked me dead in the eye, smiled, shook my hand and said, "Thank you." I knew he 'got it'.

For better or worse I'll probably always be a Whiz fan. I just like the guy. (I liked him even more when he walked across the field with his head high to shake the hand of the POS named Pete Carroll, lol.)

Nice post.

Steve
 

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My guess is he truly does.

Whiz cared about us. Whether or not he's entirely to blame for this situation remains to be seen. But....

Who took the lap around UoP after we won the NFC slapping the hands of fans and saying, "Thank you. Thank you." The man has acknowledged what the fans have done repeatedly. (Including this year at Fan Fest.)

At the Fan Fest after the Super Bowl we were standing by the rope line as the players and coaches walked out to the practice field. As Whiz walked by I said, "In Whiz we trust." He stopped, turned around, walked back to me, looked me dead in the eye, smiled, shook my hand and said, "Thank you." I knew he 'got it'.

For better or worse I'll probably always be a Whiz fan. I just like the guy. (I liked him even more when he walked across the field with his head high to shake the hand of the POS named Pete Carroll, lol.)



Whis I've always said had some great qualities but his handling of men is poor, very poor.

His treatment of QB's is terrible, just awful, you can be demanding you can do a lot of things if you don't demean people, he demeans people and I have no respect for that behavior.

It's not demeaning if you're consistent but he's not, to be as demanding as he is then you've got to be more in your face, you have to constantly build someone up too, it's not all or nothing, he lacks motivational skills and that's a lethal hole in the game of a HC.

He's way way way too tilted towards being demanding with almost ZERO good jobs or atta boys he's the quintesential father figure, you are never good enough.

Big Ben and Warner both had ego's the size of TEXAS and nothing was going to dent theirs but anyone else he pretty much destroys.

Negativity does not motivate, John Wooden was never negative, you can even cut someone in a positive manner if you do it right, but to motivate and lead means to bring out the best in people, Whis seems to bring out the worst in QB's except the ones that are rock solid secure with themeselves to start with.

It'd be great if he had any talent at spotting those, he does not.

His comment can you play?

That's not class.

To play QB is so hard, you can't be destroying someone's ego and then be surprised when they get worse and worse, that's the tell, the regression of all the players playing under him, it's IMO the negativity that starts to accumulate, if you're told you're stupid and worthless enough you start to ACT stupid and worthless.
 
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